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9. June 2004 @ 06:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
bigorange,
Man I like your new signature graphics. This is neat.
Only wish I was not too dumb to understand how to do it.


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Look at the directions on the reply to thread page. Third one down. Then get a gif with a web url, and insert.


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Let's hope everybody doesn't see this. How you like the new threads? Edited to save illness by Big O.

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Understood Pop, but the other applications except DVD2one were also older versions.

If you read our posts', you'll see that we got together and did our own tests. I made 13 backups and compared each application against the other equally. Download a copy of Instant copy or DVDcopy2 trials (you get full access) and make your own comparisons. You might also go back and review some of our efforts. Remember many of us were DVD Shrink fans too and its a great application for free, but once I saw I oould get better I wanted better.

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Sophocles,
Thanks. I'm glad to know people are getting some use from the guide. And yes, you can pretty much keep it the same from one movie to the next if you're just using the basic settings. There should be another update to the guide either this week or next for the AVS editor they've put in. Hopefully by that time there will also be support for Quantization Characteristics in CCE Basic since Rebuilder's author is now aware that it's supported in the latest version.

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Vurbal

You deserved the accolade. As the summer moves on I will probably purchase CCE. I know that I will eventually run across a very large movie that rquires some real heavy artillery and that is enough to keep it fresh in my mind. Keep writing it.

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Just backed up Lord of The Rings Return of The King (3-1/2 Hour movie only to one disc). I used DVD_Rebuilder with CCE and I am very impressed with the results. I have to make a donation to the developer.
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It's not a one click transcoder but if you used the guide on afterdawns web site then I know Vurbal will be pleased to hear about it.

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Perhaps this thread should be about more than just one click transcoders but instead about overall picture quality.

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Might be good to start a new thread.

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TMcCallie

You might be right I think we've beaten this one to death and we'll all probably get hate mail (posts) from the die-hard shrink crowd. Maybe we can check Vurbal and see if we can get a crew going on rebuilder/CCE. I finally gave in and bought a copy of DVDcopy 2 just couldn't give up the speed otherwise it would have been instant copy.

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Sophocles, be interested to know quality, time, and cost. Oh, does it handle large files well, and keep menus? Do they have a trial version? I saw it for 80.00.


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10. June 2004 @ 16:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sophocles,

I too have tried DVD Rebuilder w/ CCE Basic. The process has more steps, but the end result is superb. Also you need around 15GB per movie ... around 8GB to rip movie, around 2GB for prep&encode, and last 4+GB for the rebuild. Once rebuild is done you can just keep the 4GB rebuild file. But to start you'll need around 15GB free. My test was done on LOTR3 Return Of The King and it turn out excellent.

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10. June 2004 @ 16:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes you get full use but the trial verion only lasts for 3 days. Yes it keeps it all the menus or you can choose to dump what you don't want, and yes it works well on large files which is the reason that I bought it. The price held me back but the performance let me forward.

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well then flip watch for the thread or start it but we got to get Vurbal on line first.

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Hey guys let's start a new thread!
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Ok guys we have a new thread, we're all going to become testers with Vurbal using Rebuilder/CCE. log on here!

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/88747

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When I say "OK guys" I'm referring to anyone who is interested in sharing their experiences.

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I've tryed over at least 15 other programs & found that only 3 were worth mentioning

I know I'm new to the forum but not new to the backup game, some of you are right & some of you are just followers, DO SOME REAL TESTS !!
TRY 3 HOUR MOVIES FOR COMPARASION !!

I took 3 movies that were about 3 hours long with all the extras & MENU & stuff
(Return of the king,Tupac:Resurection,Armageddon)& was amazed with the results ... Top 3 were ...

(1) DVD Shrink 3.1.7
(quality is awesome,bright,clear alittle blocky rareley) but is very flexible & lets u choose where u want quality (main movie,menu's or extras) Plus is got its own built in ripper

(2) Elby's Clone DVD 2 2094
(Quality is also awsome, but alil mushed up & dull But it still great !!
but on longer movies it doesn't have the ability to let one select if more quality should go to main movie or extras or bonus features) this is where DVD shrink kicks in.

(3) DVD2ONE 1.40 is another good 1 but last on my list, pic quality is beautiful,& clear but the program darkens the picture just to hide the blocks or pixelization so u dont see it resulting in a darker film

All in all I'd stick with DVD Shrink 3.1.7
TAKE IT FROM A PRO
Hope i have been helpful to all the videophiles & addicts
Please remember my 3 tests are based on 3 hour movies & that you may notreally notice a difference if u test it out on a normal 90 minute or even 2 hour movie

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27. June 2004 @ 07:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Seems you have already shot yourself in the foot.
You halve already admited to having quality problems with Shrink and Elby yet everyone here participating knows that the better programs have no such quality issues.
Rebuilder/CCE is the accepted high end quality leader.
DVDcopy2 ranking close to CCE.
Many rank Pinnacle high in the list.
DVD20ne is acceppted by most as top quality picture with fast encoding.

I cannot dispute any of these. Like you I started out defending DVDshrink. But the facts have already been solidified in the quality arena at this point.
DVDshrink is moderate quality at best.

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27. June 2004 @ 07:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
S-Y-K-E-S

some of you are right & some of you are just followers, DO SOME REAL TESTS !! TRY 3 HOUR MOVIES FOR COMPARASION !!

You didn't read the entire thread did you? If you did then you'd know that we tested DVD Shrink over and over again. If you take a little time and read closer you will also notice that the movie most of us used for our tests was LOR III,Return of The King which is 3 hours and 20 minutes long. With Reuilbder/CCE the result were so good that it was impossilbe to see any difference with the naked eye. Shrink only rendered a dull and unrewarding result. Some of us may have been right and perhaps even followers but I am certain that you are wrong.

Don't get me wrong, I still use shink as a diagnostic tool to help determine the audio content or the basic DVD layout. Shrink is a marvelous tool when one considers it's free but I wouldn't use it for anything that requires any serious compression, it just isn't good enough. It simply doesn't hold a candle to DVDrebuilder with CCE in any area accept speed.

TAKE IT FROM A PRO

You want us take your word that you are a serious verteran, but everything that you wrote makes you sound like a Newbie.


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Harsh.., Sophocles. Remember, it's sunday.

S-Y-K-E-S, why did you pick such a gdmn difficult nickname. I hate to type with both hands.
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Ok siber I get your point, S-Y-K-E-S have a pleasant Sunday.

Siber, don't bother typing names just copy and paste.



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