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dvd shrink has sloooooowed dowwwwn
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oquela
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14. March 2005 @ 18:05 |
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I've read the forums lately, and a lot of people seem to be having the same problem: "It worked well for a while (many disks) and now it is slow." It seems to be quite common; is there POSSIBLY a reason why it seems to have ground to a crawl to so many people at the same time? I know that the easiest solutions are:
1)Defrag the drive
2)check for viruses/spyware/etc.
3)turn off all unnecessary progs.
4)DMA on
5)check ASPI layers
etc.
It just seems coincidental that so many people are having the same issue. I don't claim to be an expert, but one thing I do know: computers don't just start acting the same way, coincidentally, by themselves.
does anyone agree? any solutions?
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14. March 2005 @ 20:45 |
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What in particular has slowed down?(initial analyzation, deep analyzation, encoding, burning, ect.) What kind of times are we talking about for each process? What are your specs?
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 14. March 2005 @ 22:06
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havingfun
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15. March 2005 @ 11:21 |
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I am having a same problem with Shrink. It worked fine until about a month ago. I haven't change anything as far I know. Also I have two computers that I am using with almost identical spec except two different DVD burners. One computer works fine without slooowing down much but my other computer takes so long to copy my DVD movies now. The initial analysis is normal speed but encoding and burning takes forever now. I am not running any programs in background at all while I am copying dvds and DMA is enabled as suggested. But I can't figure it out why it takes so long for one computer but not the other one. I am running out of ideas how to debug this thing. BTW, DVD Decrypter works fine on the same computer. I deleted the programs and reinstalled latest downloaded from different site DVD Shrink 3.2 without success. Hopefully someone can figure out what's causing it to slow down. I will post the solution if I find out what's wrong but I doubted at this time.
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oquela
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15. March 2005 @ 14:57 |
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The initial analyzing is normal, about a minute and a half. the encoding takes a while (sometimes as long as 2 hours) and the burning is now very slow (2-3 hours to burn on a Pioneer 4x dvd-4) the light on the drive now actually goes out and back on again after a while, until the disk is completed (the green light used to pretty much flicker on at such a high rate that it seemed it was ALWAYS on throughout the burn before) This never took this long before.
the system is a Compaq PIII 800mhz/384mb running Win98SE. DVDShrink (newest version) and Nero Burning Rom 5.x.42
What could have caused it to slow down, along with other dvdshrink users with other configs?
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15. March 2005 @ 17:05 |
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Wow, the burning time is a real problem. Burning at 4x shouldn't take more than 20 min. This has nothing to do with shrink. Though you say your burner is set on DMA, you may need to unistall and reinstall the driver.
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oquela
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15. March 2005 @ 17:30 |
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I haven't tried this yet because I thought that the drivers were built-into Win98SE. When I swapped out the old cd-r and put this in, it automatically installed drivers and recognized the dvd-r. I never actually installed any drivers for the dvd-r.
What's the process to uninstall and re-install these drivers? Do I just uninstall them, and restart the system (in other words, will Win98se see it as a brand new drive again?) I know XP does this automatically, but will 98 do the same?
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15. March 2005 @ 18:42 |
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Do I just uninstall them, and restart the system
Yes. You also want to make sure the drive is set to DMA.
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PBabble
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16. March 2005 @ 02:39 |
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Have you tried bringing up task manager to see what processes are running? If there's a programme using too much of your CPU, close it and see what happens next.
Programmes like DVD Shrink and Burning programmes tend to use up a lot of CPU and I notice if I run games that use a lot of CPU power, it'll slow down the encoding or even stop it.
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ScubaBud
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16. March 2005 @ 03:09 |
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oquela
I agree with wolfniggr that it sounds like a DMA issue but I am curious how much free space is left on your HDD and how large is the initial size of it? Thanks
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oquela
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16. March 2005 @ 17:32 |
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ScubaBud,
The initial size is 30G, and there's usually about 14G left over after I've shrunk a movie.( I only do one at a time on this machine, then dump it off the HD when it's been backed up)
PBabble,
Is there a built in Task Manager to see apps that are running in 98se, and performance of CPU, or do I have to download one?
wolfnggr,
I'm not at that computer right now, but when I get to it, I'll check the DMA on HD. I'll get back to you.
Thanks all,
oquela
BTW: I'm still wondering why dvdshrink has slowed down on MANY computers (after working fine), not just mine. In other words, could a virus POSSIBLY be written to look for dvdshrink and switch dma settings??
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ScubaBud
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16. March 2005 @ 17:51 |
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oquela
Below is what I wrote in another thread. I hope that this helps a bit more.
Almost always when there is a time issue with slower burns, it relates to a change from DMA mode to PIO mode. Windows OS does that automatically after an average of 6 errors on the IDE channel with the errors. These errors can be caused by Hardware but most of the time they are disk related, CRC errors. In either case, when encountered, Windows OS sees this as a possible speed issue, and slowly turns down the speed by lowering the DMA settings, and if still not corrected, finally places your device(s) on that IDE channel in PIO mode.
By uninstalling, under Device Manager, your Secondary Controller which normally has your burner and DVD-ROM drives on it and then re-booting/restarting your PC will allow Windows to reset them back to their proper settings of DMA mode.
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oquela
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16. March 2005 @ 18:04 |
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ScubaBud,
As my 4 year old would say, "sanks!" (he can't pronounce the "th" yet)
I'll do this, and get back w/results.
PBabble:
DMA on HD is checked. Could this have been corrupted somehow?
PS: should a dvd burner ever be on the same IDE channel as the HD?
Does the HD have to be "re-installed"
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PBabble
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16. March 2005 @ 23:16 |
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D'oh, sorry I forgot you're using Win 98 SE, I'm too used to XP, and I'm thinking everyone these days has XP. Whoops!
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havingfun
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17. March 2005 @ 05:23 |
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At least for my situation, it is not DMA issue. I have checked and reinstalled multiple times without success both Secondary and Primary IDE device drivers. It is little odd that all of sudden many of us are having same issues. I am begining to think it might be some type of virus. My other computer with almost identical spec is working fine with DVD Shrink.
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lobstah48
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17. March 2005 @ 12:43 |
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Where is the DMA setting in XP professional?...am I missing something?
Thanks,
L48
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17. March 2005 @ 14:40 |
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thanks scuba ....your info worked 100% for me.
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ScubaBud
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17. March 2005 @ 15:30 |
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wolves
Thanks for letting us know. :)
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Car.Mike
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17. March 2005 @ 15:51 |
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lobstah48,
You asked" Where is the DMA setting in XP professional?...am I missing something?"
Go to Device manager> Hardware>IDE/ATA Controllers>Secondary IDE Channel> right click on it>click on properities>advanced setting> Look at the Transfer Mode
Hope this helps
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oquela
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17. March 2005 @ 18:51 |
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havingfun,
I thought I was the only one who thought this. it is more than a little weird that people on all kinds of forums (not just AD) are reporting this same issue. In my case, it isn't DMA either, because I checked drives and HD (or maybe it corrupts this setting??????) and have re-installed the drivers, etc. No joy. Just slow as heck. I don't want to resort to it, but I may have to reinstall win98se on this thing, as much as the thought bothers me.
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17. March 2005 @ 19:24 |
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just one of many problems when your in the fast lane oquela.The more we seem to know,the less we know.
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17. March 2005 @ 22:01 |
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the DMA issue as far as i recall is only a Windows XP feature. I still use Win2K, and before that a staunch supporter of W98SE. Tried WinMe, kicked that crap straight out and from then on dual-booted 98 with Win2K. Am now weaned off 98 but have no intention of going back to XP.
Anyway, oquela i've not heard of any shrink-related viruses other than XP itself !!
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18. March 2005 @ 00:55 |
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I have gone into device manger and "use DMA if available " is checked. However on my DVD drive it is reporting that it is using PIO. How do I force it to use DMA.
I have primary and secondary channels utilised with two hard drives on one and the cd and separate dvd writer on the secondary IDE
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18. March 2005 @ 00:57 |
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look further up the post :)
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ScubaBud
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18. March 2005 @ 02:10 |
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Just an opinion:
I'm sure that there are many issues that could cause a slowdown with DVD Shrink or other programs such as memory issues, virtual memory issues, hard drive space, etc., but I would also look at what percentage of members are having those problems. If we have 300,000 plus members on aD, how many have or use DVD Shrink? Let's say only 50,000 for an example, then if we have even 1% of those members having a problem that would be 500 members. I don't see 500 members posting these problems for speed issues. I think we all would agree that we see a lot more issues with DMA then any other cause and even those are not in the 500's.
So if others are having these issues other then DMA we should look at similarities between those members, corrupt installs, or other possible issues other then Windows XP. And if this happens to those only on XP, then what other software issues combined with XP could cause this?
Most here do use Windows XP home or Professional. Its not going away and neither are its service packs 1 and 2. All my machines have XP with SP2 and even pushing my PC?s with overclocking and even some dos programs from the early 90?s, they still perform flawlessly, for the most part. Believe me when I say that I am not a fan of Bill Gates, just a realist that things change and we all move on.
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cdan
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18. March 2005 @ 15:06 |
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i've been having the same problems. Encoding time is KILLing me. Just started 20min ago and it's at 3hrs. I'm only getting 610 kbs....just looked again, now it's 601kbs. DMA settings are fine and burn time is ok. Opened tm and nothing else hogging the cpu. I'm using xp and a 16x memorex burner.
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