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The Official GT4 Thread
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samuels
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3. May 2005 @ 13:26 |
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simpsim1 - yeh that makes sense. so basically when the file GT4L1.VOL is written onto the second layer on a backup disk it is written backwards, the data is in the opposite order to the original disk.
so when the game tries to access this file, it can't find the data its looking for. if it wants the first byte of data, it will actually find the last byte of data in the place it looks on the backup copy. that's why the patch is necessary, to make the game look in the right places for the data from GT4L1.VOL [Quote]
now i'm not disaggreing with you,but if this was the case,wouldn't it be easy to pick up in hex editor then.so therefore allowing the more experienced to work on that theory...to being able to put on a dvd5 disc
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reddragon
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3. May 2005 @ 13:28 |
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yeh i thought it would work. i mean, a PS2 is physically capable of reading dual layer burned media. so what difference does it make to a modchip whether a game is on a dual layer disk or not? surely its only job is to boot the game, bypassing the standard copy protection?
all i know is that i have a Magic 3.1 and even the original GT4 won't boot when its in PS2 mode, i'm assuming it can read the dual layer backup when its in movie mode, it just can't play it then because the chip isn't on to bypass the copy protection
so is the Duo2 SE officially NOT dual layer compatible? because i've heard from a few people with that chip who have got GT4 working with this patch, and now you're another one. so i guess it must be, even if it isn't advertised as such
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samuels
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3. May 2005 @ 13:33 |
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@reddragon..yes the duo 2 and duo 2 se are officially non playing for dual layered ,they will play cd-r,dvd-r,dvd+r and dvd9 silvers,along with all other original psx and ps2 imports
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tom21014
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3. May 2005 @ 14:29 |
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what some of you have said about that OTP vs. PTP thing is not quite true. all playstations and dvd players spin the disc in the same direction which is counterclockwise to read clockwise spirals. on dl media OTP is lead in clockwise from inside layer break then clockwise from outside which means the layers cross. PTP is like each layer is a separate disc. each layer has a lead in and lead out in a clockwise spiral. so to read the second layer the laser has go all the way back to the inside causing long load times. PTP lead in would look like this if unrolled: lead out ================ lead in without the spaces. while OTP would look like: layer break---------lead in lead out--------- without the spaces of course. does the x box have any dual layer games? are they ptp or otp? i think it is strange that they use linux bios. i ask because i was told that only the ps2 uses PTP. also i think it is wierd that the PS3 will be coming out soon when they did not take the PS2 as far as they could. most likely it is because the ease, low cost and amount of PS2 piracy.
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TheKid5
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3. May 2005 @ 15:06 |
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I am new to posting and have read quite a few of the previous posts, but I am still wondering if anyone has cracked the new encryption on Gran Turismo 4 and newer games, so that I can burn them onto a DVD-5 disc? If anyone can give me some information about this it would be appreciated.
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samuels
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3. May 2005 @ 15:20 |
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what some of you have said about that OTP vs. PTP thing is not quite true. all playstations and dvd players spin the disc in the same direction which is counterclockwise to read clockwise spirals. on dl media OTP is lead in clockwise from inside layer break then clockwise from outside which means the layers cross. PTP is like each layer is a separate disc. each layer has a lead in and lead out in a clockwise spiral. so to read the second layer the laser has go all the way back to the inside causing long load times. PTP lead in would look like this if unrolled: lead out ================ lead in without the spaces. while OTP would look like: layer break---------lead in lead out--------- without the spaces of course. does the x box have any dual layer games? are they ptp or otp? i think it is strange that they use linux bios. i ask because i was told that only the ps2 uses PTP. also i think it is wierd that the PS3 will be coming out soon when they did not take the PS2 as far as they could. most likely it is because the ease, low cost and amount of PS2 piracy. [Quote]
xbox have a few d/l games,but has no issues in reading them,to date anyrate,and they are in OTP because thats the format of a blank dvd + d/l
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t1nemesis
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3. May 2005 @ 17:34 |
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LiteOn SOHW 832S (latest firmware)
DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0
Verbatim DVD+R DL
DVD Decrypter always stops when the disk is 49% done. It never finishes. Why? I've tried changing the book type to DVD-R and leaving it on normal, nothing seems to help. What's the problem
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t1nemesis
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3. May 2005 @ 17:34 |
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LiteOn SOHW 832S (latest firmware)
DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0
Verbatim DVD+R DL
DVD Decrypter always stops when the disk is 49% done. It never finishes. Why? I've tried changing the book type to DVD-R and leaving it on normal, nothing seems to help. What's the problem
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samuels
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3. May 2005 @ 18:01 |
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LiteOn SOHW 832S (latest firmware)
DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0
Verbatim DVD+R DL
DVD Decrypter always stops when the disk is 49% done. It never finishes. Why? I've tried changing the book type to DVD-R and leaving it on normal, nothing seems to help. What's the problem [Quote]
832 s isn't a dual layer burner.have you flashed it thinking it will turn it into a dual layer? i may be wrong... the liteon burners have 4 digits when it's a dual layer
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t1nemesis
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3. May 2005 @ 18:33 |
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Thanks Samuels,
I thought that it was a DL burner when I bought it several months ago. I flashed it with the latest firmware but that's it. Where do I find firmware that will make it a DL?
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sed8ed
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3. May 2005 @ 18:36 |
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t1nemesis
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3. May 2005 @ 18:38 |
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Hey,
Turns out that the LiteOn SOHW 832S is a dual layer burner. Is anyone else having trouble?
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samuels
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3. May 2005 @ 18:40 |
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@t1nemesis
go to the liteon site and just double check that the 832 S is either a normal burner or dual layer first,the only reason i know that it might not be a dual layer is because i had a SOHW 1213S burner,and luckily that one can be flashed,its now a SOHW1623 s dual layer.and if i am correct in saying the 832 S is just a normal burner,it's not flashable to a dual layer
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sed8ed
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3. May 2005 @ 18:42 |
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@t1nemesis.
What original file are you burning from. Torrent or original backup?? I ask because if it is a torrent it might not be a complete file. The original should read (pal)5.6 gig in size.
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sed8ed
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3. May 2005 @ 18:44 |
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@samuels
Man I posted a link !!! It's definitely a dual layered burner. I think the problem is in the setup od DVD Decrypter. Maybe a reset to default for DVD Decrypter and then start again.
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samuels
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3. May 2005 @ 18:45 |
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sed8ed
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3. May 2005 @ 18:48 |
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@t1nemesis
Is it set in PIO or DMA. I read somewhere that if you read a couple of dodgy disc's it can revert back to PIO mode.
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samuels
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3. May 2005 @ 18:49 |
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@sed8ed
see above post ...and yeah,i didn't think of that...make sure you have the latest version of decrypter,from memory only the last 2 versions supported dual layer burning..latest decrypter is 3.5.4.0
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samuels
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3. May 2005 @ 18:52 |
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@t1nemesis
Is it set in PIO or DMA. I read somewhere that if you read a couple of dodgy disc's it can revert back to PIO mode. [Quote]
that doesn't matter.mines on PIO win xp auto reverts it back,i can never get mine to stay on DMA..*touch wood* no disc failures yet
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sed8ed
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3. May 2005 @ 18:56 |
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@t1nemesis
This is what DVD Decrypter tells me before I burn.
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 1.17 (ATA)
Current Profile: DVD+R DL
Disc Information:
Status: Empty
Erasable: No
Free Sectors: 4,173,824
Free Space: 8,547,991,552 bytes
Free Time: 927:32:74 (MM:SS:FF)
Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x
DVD+R DL Boundary Information:
L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,086,912
Changeable: Yes
Physical Format Information (ADIP):
Disc ID: MKM-001-00
Book Type: DVD+R DL
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519
Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
Disc ID: MKM-001-00
Book Type: DVD+R DL
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519
Can you check the current profile with a blank disc by posting it on this forum... Maybe something doesnt check out.
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3. May 2005 @ 18:58 |
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Hmmmmm... I thought this was a GT4 forum, not a DVDecrypter error forum!!
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sed8ed
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3. May 2005 @ 19:04 |
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@molder
I understand what you are saying. Dont see you helping. I did say a few posts back about starting a new thread regarding this issue. obviously a few deaf typists.
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samuels
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3. May 2005 @ 19:06 |
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Hmmmmm... I thought this was a GT4 forum, not a DVDecrypter error forum!! [Quote]
obvious you don't like helping people out....and in my opinion it is GT4 related...he/she is asking for help on the burn settings for GT4 on decrypter as he/she is having trouble backing it up
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sed8ed
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3. May 2005 @ 19:09 |
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I got this from the forum rules
4. Don't just ask questions and leave the forum after you've received an answer, try to contribute something as well.
I do believe it says newbie next to my name....therefore my questions have been answered.......and now i am contributing.
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t1nemesis
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3. May 2005 @ 19:11 |
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Here are my settings. Thanks for the help
LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-832S VS0G (ATA)
Current Profile: DVD+R DL
Disc Information:
Status: Empty
Erasable: No
Free Sectors: 4,173,824
Free Space: 8,547,991,552 bytes
Free Time: 927:32:74 (MM:SS:FF)
Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x
DVD+R DL Boundary Information:
L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,086,912
Changeable: Yes
Physical Format Information (ADIP):
Disc ID: MKM-001-00
Book Type: DVD+R DL
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519
Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
Disc ID: MKM-001-00
Book Type: DVD+R DL
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519
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