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NOVEMBER 2008 BAN WAVE !!! - no posts of "Oh POOR ME I'M BANNED", Stop it already, just the facts
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MiahX
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15. November 2008 @ 11:50 |
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All but one of the games you listed are marked as nuked by abgx.net, all but the GOW2 release you mentioned.
I see the article says some games were stolen, so you could assume that this GOW2 release was the one released to the net. But even if it was, it was a legit retail copy (hence why it's not nuked), so you can only guess that playing it early is what got some banned...though it sounds reasonable. I would guess that if you had a save file or achievement on your box before the game even left the companies, they would know where you got it.
So to start to figure out this mystery, did anyone here get banned who DID NOT play a nuked game or who did not play GOW2 early?
Originally posted by jondgls:
Here's the deal. If you played these games you will have been flagged by M$:
Game: Gears.Of.War.2.NTSC.XBOX360-x360inT
Release Group: x360inT
Release Date: 2008-10-20
Filename: x360-gears2
Region: NTSC
Reason: This release originated from a guy who worked at Technicolor who stole 100 retail copies of GOW2 from work during the game pressing process. He intended to sell the copies on the street to make money. He was arrested and the games were recovered except for 3 copies. Story here. One of those copies ended up as this release. Ppl then played the game prior to release date and Epic did not release review copies. So, M$ knew every person playing GOW2 early was using a modded console.
Game: Far.Cry.2.PAL.UNCUT.XBOX360-DNL
ABGX.net = nuked
Game: Fallout_3_REVIEW_COPY_XBOX360-DiPLODOCUS
ABGX.net = nuked
Game: Fable.2.USA.RF.XBOX360-RUiNS
ABGX.net = nuked
Game: Dead.Space.PAL.UNCUT.READ.NFO.XBOX360-DNL
ABGX.net = nuked
Any one of these games will have you flagged with M$. I am of the opinion that M$ waits for multiple flags b4 banning.
If you had 1.3 iXtreme you may have had flags from bad Kreon rip issue with angles greater than 359 degree. This has been fixed in iXtreme 1.4.
Unsure about any of the Saints Row 2 releases or non-english releases.
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15. November 2008 @ 12:21 |
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Originally posted by mitch04:
Originally posted by slimdawg:
So I guess they are just going to keep banning everyday until the 19th when the NXE comes out?
what happens that day?
Thats the day the new Xbox 360 dashboard update is done
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dantownh
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15. November 2008 @ 12:26 |
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Originally posted by beirke:
Looks Like M$ has started banning again!
THIS IS NOT A DRILL, here it is, banning has begun, id suggest you uplug all consoles immediatly, just to make sure you dont get the ban hammer. if you have banned, just post here to add more accuracy to this accusation.
Possible reasons
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1. BY playing GOW 2, or Call of duty World at war
2. They can now detect the 1.4 firmware
3. They have know and have the list of modders, and this is a mass ban, just before the release of the new dashboard
4. You know one of those games that they released, well it could have had a virus like effect, the game could be a ban game, basically, by playing the game they KNOW you must have a flashed 360 and are targeting us.
None of these have been proven yet, just throwing some ideas out there.
MANY REPORTS OF BANS CAME IN, I GOT BANNED TOO
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dantownh
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15. November 2008 @ 12:31 |
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just got banned ive got gears and cod not played em online but got banned but lad across road has got his flashed and hasent played a copy for at least 6 month and he got banned at same time so dont think its gears or cod <he hasent even got em>
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sid999
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15. November 2008 @ 12:36 |
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Originally posted by dantownh:
just got banned ive got gears and cod not played em online but got banned but lad across road has got his flashed and hasent played a copy for at least 6 month and he got banned at same time so dont think its gears or cod <he hasent even got em>
so your saying they banned your console due to it being modded but not by playing a susspect game ......
shit to this im getting my atari back out of the loft !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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15. November 2008 @ 12:46 |
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I'm running a newly flashed 360 that's only been modded for a couple of days, but it's good on Live as of 1 minute ago. It's only played a burned copy of COD5 that checked out 100% in abgx360. I think if game doesn't check out 100% in abgx360 it may flag you. There are a bunch of them put there that do not.
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dantownh
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15. November 2008 @ 13:06 |
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Originally posted by sid999:
Originally posted by dantownh:
just got banned ive got gears and cod not played em online but got banned but lad across road has got his flashed and hasent played a copy for at least 6 month and he got banned at same time so dont think its gears or cod <he hasent even got em>
so your saying they banned your console due to it being modded but not by playing a susspect game ......
shit to this im getting my atari back out of the loft !!!!!!!!!!!!!
dont know for sure but i guess it must be firmware both of us been and bought a new 360 today and both are back on line (i think ms is trying to get his xmas sales up looks like bill gates could do with the money lol)
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15. November 2008 @ 13:24 |
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The more I read the more I have to agree with posters who are saying that it's bad games and not firmware detection.
It makes absolutely no sense to me why M$ wouldn't ban every single 360 that was on Live IF they could detect firmware. If they wanted to prove they were serious about cracking down on piracy, at least when it comes to playing on Live, then why wouldn't they send a clear message that "We know who you are and we are clamping down on you." and ban everyone at the same time.
Think about it.
We are all on here trying to figure out what games are bad and some of us are still on Live. So you may detour a few people from flashing their consoles but if they really wanted or could send out the message that if you mod you will be banned then wouldn't they do it already?
The only argument I can think of is that it's a "beta test" before they do heavy banning with NXE but I really don't think that's the case.
What does everyone else think?
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15. November 2008 @ 13:28 |
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The way i see it (don't shoot me btw as i'm new to all things xbox 360) is that it seems to me that MS are paving the way for the November 19th update. The only part i've read about for the update is the ability to install games to the hard drive so to me it seems they're unleashing the banhammer prior to the update ie so as to 'clean up' Live a bit before we all get to install games...
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15. November 2008 @ 14:19 |
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Originally posted by jerecho:
did anyone else get kick off live last night around 10 pm west coast time for about 10 minutes and then able to get back on? wierd
It happened exactly at midnight eastern standard time. I suspect this was microsoft updating the servers. This happened twice once at 12 midnight on the dot and once at 12:10am on the dot. The live service was still up but the MTU wasn't able to connect. After signing back in my 20 friends that were online were knocked down to 3.
It was odd because it froze my gta game in black screen, so i pressed the power off, the ring of light turned off but the console was still running. I pressed the eject button and it turned the console back on. I'm glad it wasn't trying to update, or it would have bricked.
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djgeraci
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15. November 2008 @ 14:26 |
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I got banned after either playing Mirror's Edge on november the 13th or Fallout 3 on november the 14th. I think it was on the 14th since I 'm pretty sure I made sure that my 360 didn't go online on the 13th since Mirror's release date was the 14th. I was already playing Fallout 3 a few weeks though. And my 360 was still fine with GoW 2 and COD 5.
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Razorub
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15. November 2008 @ 14:29 |
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What I think is going on is Microsoft has been able to detect bad disks for quite some time. It's possible that MS has known which systems are modded for months now but only now have decided to act upon it, hence the reason some people that haven't even touched the "suspicious" list of games have still been banned.
Think about it, if you were a huge company headed into the holiday season, especially one where MS is practically trying to relaunch the system, wouldn't it make sense to launch a massive attack against modders during that period. Sony and Microsoft battle each year in the holiday, to be the company that sells the most systems during that time. Consumers later see that a particular system outsold another during the holiday and that creates a great start into the next year with sales as well. I believe Microsoft is using every bit of it's ability this holiday to drive sales more than the PS3 for that exact reason. I'm sure a large percentage of people who are recently banned will run out and purchase a system within the next month or so, or get a new one for Christmas. It's business tactics that I wouldn't put past a company like Microsoft for a second. I know if I was on the MS board I would do the same.
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djgeraci
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15. November 2008 @ 14:32 |
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I got banned on either the 13th while playing Mirror's Edge or on the 14th with Fallout 3. I think it has to be the 14th since I am pretty sure I didn't let my 360 go online on the 13th since Mirror's Edge's release date was on the 14th. I had already been playing Fallout 3 a few weeks and it was going fine during thhat time. Also, I could go online with COD 5 and GoW 2.
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bu3ali
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15. November 2008 @ 17:11 |
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i dunno if this info helps or not
i dont think microsoft are using anything to check the firmware
ive had the samsung iextreme 1.4 firmware for a while now and havent played any backup games yet, im not banned
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jez4321
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15. November 2008 @ 17:33 |
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i got banned, only game i've played that wasn't good was saints row 2 review copy. two of my friends played it and also got banned.as they say live and learn.
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15. November 2008 @ 17:38 |
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LIVE was having problems. Major Nelson posted about it.
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15. November 2008 @ 17:49 |
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I have played Gears of War 2 before it was released is there any copy of the pre-release on that is not getting people flagged. I also played the seed4me version of Fallout 3 should I wipe my hardrive to save myself. I haven't logged into live since playing those games. So Microsoft doesn't know I have played them. Also how do you check what release you have after you have burned the game. Is there a way to put it back in my dvd drive and find out? Probably not I am guessing because the games should look like retail games.
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omglol741
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15. November 2008 @ 17:57 |
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If you're banned, what does it say on the connection test? Mine can't connect to the network at all, so I think it's just a problem with the adapter or something.
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RIARA
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15. November 2008 @ 19:26 |
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Originally posted by omglol741:
If you're banned, what does it say on the connection test? Mine can't connect to the network at all, so I think it's just a problem with the adapter or something.
when you test netork connetions, everything passes except for the XBoxlive test
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djeazyg
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15. November 2008 @ 19:57 |
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I don't play on line. Never cared for it plus I have a PS3 and if I want to play on line I don't have to pay for it. But if you are banned do you still have access to things like Demos and Add Ons or are you completely cut off from everything?
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vister
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15. November 2008 @ 20:00 |
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Originally posted by djeazyg:
I don't play on line. Never cared for it plus I have a PS3 and if I want to play on line I don't have to pay for it. But if you are banned do you still have access to things like Demos and Add Ons or are you completely cut off from everything?
all the thing you got in hdd you can use it i still got the left 4 dead demo
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TheP0P0
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15. November 2008 @ 20:35 |
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Im not banned yet here are he details
Xbox 360 Elite
iextreme 1.4
played gow2 early on live
played fallout 3 early not on live
played fable 2 early
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TheP0P0
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15. November 2008 @ 20:45 |
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Originally posted by TheP0P0:
Im not banned yet here are he details
Xbox 360 Elite
iextreme 1.4
played gow2 early on live
played fallout 3 early not on live
played fable 2 early
I forgot to list i did get banned once everything worked except xbx live and then the next day my xbox worked so idk what happened. i do have a changing ip if that has nething to do with it
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15. November 2008 @ 22:06 |
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I have played Gears of War 2 before it was released is there any copy of the pre-release on that is not getting people flagged. I also played the seed4me version of Fallout 3 should I wipe my hardrive to save myself. I haven't logged into live since playing those games. So Microsoft doesn't know I have played them. Also how do you check what release you have after you have burned the game. Is there a way to put it back in my dvd drive and find out? Probably not I am guessing because the games should look like retail games
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G_E_Nesis
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15. November 2008 @ 22:32 |
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so i havent been baned yet... and almost all my games are backups
and i played gears (Offline) early
but as for right now im not going to connect to live till this ban wave is through.. or maybe ill wait for the 1.5 firmware and see if that helps, anyway what im really wondering is
how often do these banwaves happen? and do they usually die down after a while? because so far it seems like just about everyone is getting the banhammer
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