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16. May 2006 @ 00:12 |
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(this is personal opinion)
I think the Dev' community would have refused working with the PS if the xbox came along first. The fact is, the PS was good in its time, so the dev's had no choice but to accept the programming language as there is too much money involved not too. It's make or break time for Sony now.
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heraldsun
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16. May 2006 @ 00:21 |
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@ oedekerk
if i'm understanding your post correctly,"It's make or break time for Sony now." ? this is what we have been trying to say,with a few other facts thrown in,to which certain posters don't want to believe.
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16. May 2006 @ 00:26 |
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@Heraldsun,
I know that's what you have been trying to say - i'm trying to agree! :)
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heraldsun
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16. May 2006 @ 01:49 |
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@ oedekerk. well i agree with you :)...just a pity certain ppl can't see it that way,the comparisons of the consoles,and the fact that we can validate
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16. May 2006 @ 01:56 |
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It's fair enough I suppose. If they love Sony, fair enough, there's worse companies out there. The point is, they have to write off the 360 in return without any reason to. I have a 360, and don't have a SINGLE problem with ANYTHING. I am certain that the PS3 is gonna be missing key elements in places like the online service, because they have nowhere near the experience MS do. However, they have a pretty powerful machine so it's gonna be interesting to see what they do (or don't do).
Also, I seen in-game footage of Warhawk. It might not have been the best-quality video, but the graphics didn't seem next-gen to me, neither did the physics. Maybe in VERY early stages? ...doubt it.
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heraldsun
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16. May 2006 @ 02:10 |
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yes it's a wait and see game,i personally think also,this maybe sony's undoing,but like i have said to damondash,if i'm wrong i'll be the first to apoligise,Sony at the moment seem to be hiding something,what i don't know,but once again we will find out in time,personally i will be waiting on this one for awhile,it appears i was wrong about prices being nearly identical world wide,from what i have been following up,they have a price tag of $999.00AUD...very expensive for something that SONY themselves don't know how it will fair.
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16. May 2006 @ 02:43 |
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I thought they where also hiding something, that was going to be revealed at E3 - no such luck.
Now i'm not sure, I think they reached in for a rabbit, but it had long since left the hat LOL.
They are either very good at keeping secrets, or very bad at making next-gen consoles.
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linax9
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16. May 2006 @ 09:11 |
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i'd like to point out the mere dellusion that sony made up Blu-ray is a laugh. MGM developed the format in actuallity sony is just making up their own format for it.
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linax9
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16. May 2006 @ 09:16 |
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and odekerk i'd like to point out MS's Online track record isnt to well Good. Xbox Live went free for some stuff if you took notice prolly to sell more of the 360. the laughable bit is sony has a bit of experience with online things its jsut to what variable extent they do it. You forget that PS2 actually ran an MMORPG something which MS cannot attest to until the 360 came out and ffxi moved to that. Sony has more support for a greater extent at least for "Virtual Worlds" and mmorpgs in general where as microsofts web based games are more like join a room and multiplayer as opposed to a consistant world. SOme of that has changed and is thru play online ill admit but it is still to point out that the track record from the previous generation of consoles is more in favor for me for Sony at least on the front of constant worlds :).
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16. May 2006 @ 09:20 |
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Until hdtv's are a standard in every houshold its idiotic to invest in hi-def dvd's.Lets not get ahead of oursleves theirs only like 30total availble hd channels so its not where i need to be.Blu-ray just inst worth the hefty pricetag it bears,the 360's hi-def gaming is enough for me.
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linax9
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16. May 2006 @ 09:35 |
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ok lets also point on one big fact here while considerably space doesnt have much of an incling there are games on ps2 that require 2 disks already. A graphically this gives games more room to grow as well. Be it in length of game or otherwise. Also to bonbillion. It will most likely be the same way sony has run their previous online service. Which by the way was free for alot of the games. Some had a payment because they were like mmorpgs. which is normal by the way.
Also there are a few months between now and novermber. If i recall sony's speculation for the ps2's price was off as well. I'd also like to point out Ms's Console track record. The Xbox originally was outsold By Gameboy Advanced. Which is quite funny considering its like 2d graphics and graphically equivalent to a handheld Super Nintendo. You guys can rant on about Xbox all you want. The fact is people are skeptical of MS when it comes to consoles.
It comes down to the fact MS didnt provide a good variety of games for console players. The Xbox consisted mainly of What types of games? Sports/FPS/Racing games. Now you cut out a huge chunk of people by basing a system off those mainly. So yes PS3 ultimately is going to sell better. This can come down to variety as well as actual structure of games. People prefer the ps2 to the xbox for similar reasons.
Regardless of it being graphically superior sony will live on due to that fact. MS is more likely to kill itself off b4 Sony does. And alot of threads lead me to believe here taht people know qutie little about the development of Blu-ray other then it holds more then a dvd.
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16. May 2006 @ 09:46 |
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also rikjames... Ill go into this here. Sure its no common but ps3 can play dvd's on top of it. The mere fact that ps3 is backwards compatible sells it to me as opposed to the 360 as i'd need to keep my xbox around to play any of those games i liked on the xbox. Which in all honesty is just idiocy. Plus if you look at your post it actually in turn contradicts itself. Saying you will stick with HD dvd's but cuz Blu-ray is hd its a waste of money. Again for the record HDTV's are getting cheaper. All tv's are in general as they develop more and more they will get cheaper and cheaper. And again Blu-ray doesnt need to be played on a hd-tv. Just takes advantage of the hd compatibility.
Fact is PS3 is going to give more bang for your buck as you can still buy ps1 and ps2 games in development and play them on it. Thats the easiest selling point to make. Backwards compatibility. Ability to also play dvd's etc :). All in all the ps3 will be worth the 500-600 people spend on it :)and unlike ms they arnt prematurely releasing it.
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linax9
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16. May 2006 @ 10:10 |
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aha upon closer inspection of the cnet movies :) well they feel that when Microsoft releases their movie add on for the 360 it will pretty much even out the playing feild in terms of cost. Rememebr with ps3 ur getting more then a game system =P
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16. May 2006 @ 10:19 |
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I said nothing about sticking to hd-dvds read my post again buddy.Im not worried about the price of hdtv's im worried that they charge a grand for a blu-ray player which is enormously overpriced considering you can find an hdtv around that price.Sony's got you hooked and spreading the gospel as i can see it.You've posting like ten times and all for sony and questioning those for MS.You have not said one noteworthy positive thing abotu MS/360.
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linax9
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16. May 2006 @ 10:21 |
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the 360's hi-def gaming whats that statement mean then hmm? dont try to deny that. Plus your prove you didnt say it you edited the original post after all =P
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rikjames
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16. May 2006 @ 10:30 |
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360's games arent HD-DVD wise guy,man ur a little slow on the uptake.they are a standard dvd are they not?butim not going to sit here and feud with u so you win..GO sony
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linax9
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16. May 2006 @ 11:01 |
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i wont dispute that fact but they arnt exactly standard dvd's they hold a bit more data then a standard one i do believe. But lets not fued here im not into any system deeply. I own xbox, ps2 , and gc as well as msot handhelds. From the perspective is they do have hd output but as b4 they do plan to release a drive to play HD-DVD movies which in turn is going to even things out cost wise between sony which will come with the ability to play movies in hd vs xbox 360 where you have to buy a seperate component.
Which hopefully its released as a seperate component cuz frankly if its not alot of people will not buy it. Prolly be added into another generation of the console itself a new release of it pushing the price back up to about ps3 costs. But we wont know till it happens "shrugs" really im not one to say but frankly i'd rather have sony's bigger library plain and simple.
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linax9
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16. May 2006 @ 11:07 |
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"well i may be blind, but for someone who can see properly, you sure are stupid. i mean if you go to ign, gamespot, gametrailers, etc. all of these websites will say the same thing that MS had the best looking games at e3, ok so who do i believe someone calling me blind or someone who is totaly unbaised and has played with games on both consoles. ok second thing, xbox 360 is easier to develope for so having that asset means that ps3 may not ever catch up to xbox 360 simply b/c it came out a year before and b/c its harder to develope for. also many developers have said openly that xbox 360 has the slightly better graphics card. so before you come back running at me with, NO SONY'S GRAPHIC CARD IS GUNNA BE WAY BETTER ARE YOU BLIND OR SOMETHING. well find me evidence of someone aprt from you or any other fanboy that ps3 graphics card is better, and i will find you developers interviews saying that xbox 360 card is better.
your just loki9ng at this from a totaly wrong angle, your stil back in e3 2005. i bet you still believe blu ray will help make bigger games and better graphics, hahaha."
Doesnt matter who has the better gfx card better specs or not comes down to content and game variety both of which MS lacks. You cant prove which card is better. Frankly the people that rant on about specs only like you Rabitty are the gamers that dont really get gaming. Its not about glorified graphics those are a perk. In fact i still state some of the best games were on SNES. which when compared with today would make some people laugh. Graphics are little to do with why PS2 sold better then XBOX.
Whoever the hell runs the xbox bit for MS needs to get a brain and realize you have to cater to the gamer not your own means. They tried to make a pc into a console in retrospect. And tried to do the same type of games one would see on a PC. Thats what hurt them. Sure the hardware may be more powerful on either side. But the war is going to come down to the games. In which case its over before it started!
And a side note just because the 360 is easier to develop for means they can put out more games. Does not mean they are going to put out higher quality games then the ps3. In fact it would suprise me. As i have done what most people are doing being skeptical of the Xbox series this time around those of us that wasted the money to buy the original and rarely ever used it.
One question to you you keep stating PS3 is harder to develop for. Are you a game developer? Have you played with developer kits for the ps3? have you done any of this that backs the statement up. Sure it will take some time to develop for but we will get better games out of that. Not some slop slapped together to get stuff out there.
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16. May 2006 @ 11:16 |
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Is that reffered to me?
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16. May 2006 @ 11:31 |
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Ok ... i bought my ps2 clsoe to when it came out those that saying their break alot. I played and played and played. then i bought the Hard Drive for it and played FFXI alot. MY ps2 broke from this. i had since bought a smaller slim one. Now i think it was something to do with the HD adapter but im not to sure *shrugs*. In all fairness though the ps2 is the better of the 2 consoles game wise. Also the message about them not fixing it because it had been worked on is in fact true. If you read the stuff that comes with it thats a stipulation of the warranty hehe. MS would do the same exact thing to you as would nintendo or any company that makes electronics. It nulls te warranty on the system plain and simple!
and no rik it wasnt unless you stated that line of text it was towards rabitty =P
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16. May 2006 @ 12:25 |
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wow this thread is full of newbs.. lol
the priuce is well worth what you get i'd say. its a cheap bluray player and a very cheap (about 4x cheaper) alternative to a high end pc on roids with equil power. if you have not seen the videos about the interface on the ps3, it has soooo many features made available right at start-up. its awesome that u could have a flight sim game and fly it withoput using the sticks, just piloting like a pilot would.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
PS3 Username: Anubis66
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heraldsun
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16. May 2006 @ 13:35 |
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Whoever the hell runs the xbox bit for MS needs to get a brain and realize you have to cater to the gamer not your own means. They tried to make a pc into a console in retrospect. And tried to do the same type of games one would see on a PC. Thats what hurt them. Sure the hardware may be more powerful on either side. But the war is going to come down to the games. In which case its over before it started(Quote)
WHO stated when it was launched that it is a mini PC....Sony,they mis-informed us then,and they are doing it again on the PS3,accept that FACT
for online gaming,why did it take Sony to wait for microsoft to do it first,now i can't comment on the quality or experience of online gaming,as i never use online gaming,it just doesn't interest me.
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One question to you you keep stating PS3 is harder to develop for. Are you a game developer? Have you played with developer kits for the ps3? have you done any of this that backs the statement up. Sure it will take some time to develop for but we will get better games out of that. Not some slop slapped together to get stuff out there. (Quote)
if you really want to know,I know a game developer,and he has stated the exact same thing.so i have one thing i would like you to do,use those typing fingers of yours,while you are throwing around some half truths about the 2 next gen consoles,do some searching on the net,about what game developers say about the PS2,and the up coming PS3,there have been a couple of game developers that have actually flat out refused to make games for Sony,why, is simple,for them it was to hard,why was it hard,back then,they didn't have the dev tools(updated dev tools-compression utilities,etc,etc)it has been proven by game developers and critics,that when the PS2 made it's debut,that it was hard to develop games for.
you are sounding like another fanboy of sony,read my post quite a few back,i'm neutral...but as a gamer myself,i can honestly say,that this is Sony's undoing this time,and as rabbity said,is this make or break time(i think it was rabbity *S*)..i stated,this could be them breaking,based on the facts...and yes the speculation as well.
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16. May 2006 @ 13:42 |
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Ok ... i bought my ps2 clsoe to when it came out those that saying their break alot. I played and played and played. then i bought the Hard Drive for it and played FFXI alot. MY ps2 broke from this. i had since bought a smaller slim one. Now i think it was something to do with the HD adapter but im not to sure *shrugs*. In all fairness though the ps2 is the better of the 2 consoles game wise. Also the message about them not fixing it because it had been worked on is in fact true. If you read the stuff that comes with it thats a stipulation of the warranty hehe. MS would do the same exact thing to you as would nintendo or any company that makes electronics. It nulls te warranty on the system plain and simple!
and no rik it wasnt unless you stated that line of text it was towards rabitty =P (Quote)
yes thats correct about you stating *been worked on* but under state-territory laws(this is also stated in Sony's warranty)where i come from,under our laws Sony would have to repair or replace,under their warranty conditions as the devices you are talking about,are legal where i come from,same applies for microsoft.plain and simple!
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16. May 2006 @ 13:46 |
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Yeah but how about the psp dead pixels?
Sony stated that they dont fix or accept used psp . you been warn.
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