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18. June 2005 @ 02:28 |
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PLEASE READ!
This thread is NOT for burning questions. The GT4 Burning Issues Thread addresses this. http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/190104
The point of this thread is to carry on where we left off on the last thread with regards to getting a full DVD-5 backup, including arcade mode.
Of course, most people will now be happy enough with the backups they already have, be it DVD-9 or the partial DVD-5, but I'm still not satisfied, nor, I believe are quite a few other people. I may be wrong in which case this thread will die a quick and painless death.
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18. June 2005 @ 08:46 |
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yeah keep it up!
/me wants the 2 dvd version badly: arcade mode and story mode... ^_^
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18. June 2005 @ 12:20 |
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i want both modes on dvd5! we will do it! nothing is impossible! we thought we couldn't back it up at all but we have :D
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18. June 2005 @ 13:07 |
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sweet go for it!
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18. June 2005 @ 13:34 |
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I would start off by applying the Toxic patch to the image,then continue on from there.The reason for applying the patch would be to fix the issues of reading.After this step I don't think it is possible unless the CORE.GT4 file is decrypted.If you extract both layers of the game whether it be the first or second layer there is not that much that can be tooken out unless unpacking the .VOL files.In order to get a full DVD-5 rip that is what it would take to be honest.Add up the two .VOL files and see what you come up with,you will notice it is actually big even without the other files.If you can somehow manage to keep the size limit down to 4.35Gig you should be ok or maybe overburn it onto a disc at 4.7Gig.
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18. June 2005 @ 13:38 |
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Glad I've still got support. I'm trying to get some more info on the hex formation of this vol file. One of my friends says it looks similar to the makeup of an ISO image. I would suspect that if that were the case, the image would need to have its header patched to be able to edit it with the likes of apache.
I do have to say though, this exercise will be pretty pointless unless there are others able to help out with some hex editing and archiving stuff. I'm just one person at the end of the day and I think the final solution will need to be a team effort.
I'm currently PS2less whilst I'm having a repair done, so I wonder if someone has a disk free to do a test for me. Basically I wanted to do a Layer-1 DVD from the original (Obviously we can't boot from it, but it might run arcade mode if it is swapped at the loading stage after exiting GT Mode). Just a thought and would eliminate this as a possibility if it doesn't work. You'll need Apache to extract rhe Layer-1 iso and a slide card or a flip-top to swap disks.
Thanks in advance if you can help out. Also Thanks in advance who has any info they can share on the whole subject.
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18. June 2005 @ 13:40 |
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@L-burna. Hey what's up!
I've solved the patching issue by using Toolboy's patching kit for the HDD version. The toxic patch fails when you rebuild the iso with CDVDGEN.
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18. June 2005 @ 13:52 |
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Well,can you rebuild both layers and have a 2 disc project.Just as you mentioned,because I'm not 100% positive that both .VOL files are needed.I could be wrong on the .VOL files,but maybe it could work if you build two discs by applying the patches to the original image.Then reconstructing the second layer as the first layer,but I haven't tried it yet.Glad you mentioned that the Toxic patch doesn't work though,but a patch definately has to be applied like you mentioned.
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18. June 2005 @ 14:49 |
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@L-Burna. Not sure what you've read of the last GT4 thread, but I made a few discoveries about the filesystems.
Layer-1's VOL file contains the movies as you will doubtless know. You can find them in the VOL file with a hex editor by searching for TMPGEnc. It's in the header of the movie files denoting that they've been encoded using TMPGEnc (Sony know a good program when they see it lol). I will add that the complete movie files can be extracted from the vol file with no further decryption. I've tried exploiting this by hex editing out certain movies and also by shrinking them. Trouble is that anything modified before Movie36 on the GT4L1.VOL (Intro Movie) causes the game to lock up after the autoload. Disabling the intro movie on the save seems to get over that problem, but alas, still no arcade mode.
This leads me to believe that by hex editing files out, I'm probably screwing with the linking somehow... I wish I knew a little more. Also, There is at least part of the Intro movie on the layer-0 vol. I know that because half of it plays on a disk made from layer-0 only. Amazingly though, I can't find a trace of a TMPGEnc header.
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18. June 2005 @ 18:59 |
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why don't ya just take the movies out? namely the intro one.
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18. June 2005 @ 22:03 |
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Using winhex (under tools/file tools) you can concatenate(I think this means merge)2 files together.However when it merges the 2 files(in this case gt4.vol/gt4L1.vol it only uses anything that is the same in the 2 files once.As some of you know the beginning of the 2 files are the same.So when you concatenate(love that word!)the 2 files you end up with a 4.3gb file instead 0f 5.27 gb.So throw the other files back into the mix (core gt4/iopr300 ETC.and you in the dvd5 ballpark.However you can't create a iso image with a 4.3gb file.Has to be under 4gb.Any suggestions?
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19. June 2005 @ 00:01 |
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why can't ya make a 4.3gb image?
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19. June 2005 @ 01:51 |
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@LiquidusX,
4gb is the max size for any one file in an iso image.There is a technical reason why(have a look on the net to satisfy your curiosity)
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19. June 2005 @ 02:36 |
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Alright this is what happens when you Concatenate,it will say the file sizes don't match.It can join two files together,only problem is getting them the same size.I already tried crowy a long time ago,just didn't work because of the size issues.Hey simpsim1 so your saying the two .VOL files are reading from each other right.The size maybe 4.35Gig for Swap Magic peeps ;).I can extract the movie files out of both .VOL files,only problem is putting them back in.
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19. June 2005 @ 06:02 |
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OK I finally have a plan on how we can get it to work a rip for Dvd-5.I checked out all the PSS files which are the movie files where they are located in the .ISO file.You have to look at it in sectors for example this is the location of the Starting point/Ending point of each file in GT4 for all the .PSS(The .PSS files are the movie files in the game) files:
PSS_0 Start/End offset:2715332608-2742104068
PSS_1 Start/End offset:2742106112-2764421124
PSS_2 Start/End offset:2764423168-2788851716
PSS_3 Start/End offset:2788853760-2819328004
PSS_4 Start/End offset:2819330048-2845839364
PSS_5 Start/End offset:2845841408-2876954628
PSS_6 Start/End offset:2876956672-2904137732
PSS_7 Start/End offset:2906181632-2929512452
PSS_8 Start/End offset:2929514496-3426113540
PSS_9 Start/End offset:3426115584-3460096004
PSS_10 Start/End offset:3460098048-3487541252
PSS_11 Start/End offset:3487543296-3514724356
PSS_12 Start/End offset:3514726400-3551574020
PSS_13 Start/End offset:3551576064-3588423684
PSS_14 Start/End offset:3588425728-3618637828
PSS_15 Start/End offset:3618639872-3650457604
PSS_16 Start/End offset:3650459648-3679606788
PSS_17 Start/End offset:3679608832-3711098884
PSS_18 Start/End offset:3711100928-3738626052
PSS_19 Start/End offset:3738628096-3765923844
PSS_20 Start/End offset:3765925888-3788470276
PSS_21 Start/End offset:3788472320-3824910340
PSS_22 Start/End offset:3824912384-3844360196
PSS_23 Start/End offset:3844362240-3859009540
PSS_24 Start/End offset:3859011584-3885209604
PSS_25 Start/End offset:3885211648-3910213636
PSS_26 Start/End offset:3910215680-3936528388
PSS_27 Start/End offset:3936530432-3963531268
PSS_28 Start/End offset:3963533312-3989403652
PSS_29 Start/End offset:3989405696-4015767556
PSS_30 Start/End offset:4015769600-4043442180
PSS_31 Start/End offset:4043444224-4068134916
PSS_32 Start/End offset:4068136960-4097579012
PSS_33 Start/End offset:4097581056-4128645124
PSS_34 Start/End offset:4128647168-4155041796
PSS_35 Start/End offset:4155043840-4398952452
PSS_36 Start/End offset:4398954496-4425316356
PSS_37 Start/End offset:4425318400-4462428164
PSS_38 Start/End offset:4462430208-4497688580
PSS_39 Start/End offset:4497690624-4618539012
PSS_40 Start/End offset:4618541056-4645050372
PSS_41 Start/End offset:4645052416-4671102980
PSS_42 Start/End offset:4671105024-4697991172
PSS_43 Start/End offset:4697993216-4725174276
PSS_44 Start/End offset:4725176320-4752209924
PSS_45 Start/End offset:4752211968-4778573828
PSS_46 Start/End offset:4778575872-4805494788
PSS_47 Start/End offset:4805496832-4832677892
PSS_48 Start/End offset:4832679936-4859860996
PSS_49 Start/End offset:4859863040-4887044100
PSS_50 Start/End offset:4887046144-4914227204
PSS_51 Start/End offset:4914229248-4941410308
PSS_52 Start/End offset:4941412352-4968593412
PSS_53 Start/End offset:4968595456-4977655812
PSS_54 Start/End offset:4977657856-4982704132
PSS_55 Start/End offset:4982706176-5009444868
PSS_56 Start/End offset:5009446912-5035530244
PSS_57 Start/End offset:5035532288-5062303748
PSS_58 Start/End offset:5062305792-5090322436
PSS_59 Start/End offset:5090324480-5117095940
PSS_60 Start/End offset:5117097984-5153044484
PSS_61 Start/End offset:5153046528-5183258628
PSS_62 Start/End offset:5183260672-5206640644
PSS_63 Start/End offset:5206642688-5239721988
PSS_64 Start/End offset:5239724032-5265856516
PSS_65 Start/End offset:5265858560-5293498372
I am thinking about extracting all the videos and downsampling making a new file which is about half the size of the original movies.Then opening the new created file in WinHex and copy and paste each Sector of the newly downsampled files in WinHex after deleting the original sectors for each movie.I know it might sound weird to some of you,but it might work never know until someone tries it out.Let me know if this would be a good plan or not it doesn't really sound like a bad idea to me,but I don't know let me know what your thoughts are on this process.
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19. June 2005 @ 06:23 |
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Right now I am figuring out all the Hash codes for WinHex purposes an so forth,so all you have to do is press the search button up top on WinHex and type in the start/end location for the movie files.
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19. June 2005 @ 07:27 |
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Alright done,so what you do is fire up WinHex and at the top of WinHex it should have a Search button.Scroll down from the Search menu to where it says find Hex values,and it should bring up a search bar.Where it says the following hex values will be searched then a white window where you can type in it.Type in the Hex codes I am going to give you and it should bring you right to the beginning of the file.If you use the Start Hex codes it will bring you to the start of the movie files.If you use the End Hex codes it will bring you to the very end of the movie file.Alright here is the Hex list:
PSS_0 Start/End offset:A1D8B000-A3713004
PSS_1 Start/End offset:A3713800-A4C5B804
PSS_2 Start/End offset:A4C5C000-A63A8004
PSS_3 Start/End offset:A63A8800-A80B8804
PSS_4 Start/End offset:A80B9000-A9A01004
PSS_5 Start/End offset:A9A01800-AB7AD804
PSS_6 Start/End offset:AB7AE000-AD19A004
PSS_7 Start/End offset:AD38D000-AE9CD004
PSS_8 Start/End offset:AE9CD800-CC365804
PSS_9 Start/End offset:CC366000-CE3CE004
PSS_10 Start/End offset:CE3CE800-CFDFA804
PSS_11 Start/End offset:CFDFB000-D17E7004
PSS_12 Start/End offset:D17E7800-D3B0B804
PSS_13 Start/End offset:D3B0C000-D5E30004
PSS_14 Start/End offset:D5E30800-D7B00804
PSS_15 Start/End offset:D7B01000-D9959004
PSS_16 Start/End offset:D9959800-DB525804
PSS_17 Start/End offset:DB526000-DD32E004
PSS_18 Start/End offset:DD32E800-DED6E804
PSS_19 Start/End offset:DED6F000-E0777004
PSS_20 Start/End offset:E0777800-E1CF7804
PSS_21 Start/End offset:E1CF8000-E3FB8004
PSS_22 Start/End offset:E3FB8800-E5244804
PSS_23 Start/End offset:E5245000-E603D004
PSS_24 Start/End offset:E603D800-E7939804
PSS_25 Start/End offset:E793A000-E9112004
PSS_26 Start/End offset:E9112800-EAA2A804
PSS_27 Start/End offset:EAA2B000-EC3EB004
PSS_28 Start/End offset:EC3EB800-EDC97804
PSS_29 Start/End offset:EDC98000-EF5BC004
PSS_30 Start/End offset:EF5BC800-F1020804
PSS_31 Start/End offset:F1021000-F27AD004
PSS_32 Start/End offset:F27AD800-F43C1804
PSS_33 Start/End offset:F43C2000-F6162004
PSS_34 Start/End offset:F6162800-F7A8E804
PSS_35 Start/End offset:F7A8F000-10632B004
PSS_36 Start/End offset:10632B800-107C4F804
PSS_37 Start/End offset:107C50000-109FB4004
PSS_38 Start/End offset:109FB4800-10C154804
PSS_39 Start/End offset:10C155000-113495004
PSS_40 Start/End offset:113495800-114DDD804
PSS_41 Start/End offset:114DDE000-1166B6004
PSS_42 Start/End offset:1166B6800-11805A804
PSS_43 Start/End offset:11805B000-119A47004
PSS_44 Start/End offset:119A47800-11B40F804
PSS_45 Start/End offset:11B410000-11CD34004
PSS_46 Start/End offset:11CD34800-11E6E0804
PSS_47 Start/End offset:11E6E1000-1200CD004
PSS_48 Start/End offset:1200CD800-121AB9804
PSS_49 Start/End offset:121ABA000-1234A6004
PSS_50 Start/End offset:1234A6800-124E92804
PSS_51 Start/End offset:124E93000-12687F004
PSS_52 Start/End offset:12687F800-12826B804
PSS_53 Start/End offset:12826C000-128B10004
PSS_54 Start/End offset:128B10800-128FE0804
PSS_55 Start/End offset:128FE1000-12A961004
PSS_56 Start/End offset:12A961800-12C241804
PSS_57 Start/End offset:12C242000-12DBCA004
PSS_58 Start/End offset:12DBCA800-12F682804
PSS_59 Start/End offset:12F683000-13100B004
PSS_60 Start/End offset:13100B800-133253804
PSS_61 Start/End offset:133254000-134F24004
PSS_62 Start/End offset:134F24800-136570804
PSS_63 Start/End offset:136571000-1384FD004
PSS_64 Start/End offset:1384FD800-139DE9804
PSS_65 Start/End offset:139DEA000-13B846004
You can use any kind of hex editor I suppose,but I like WinHex.Hex Workshop can do the same thing and is pretty good also.I am still working on it at the momment,downsampling takes a long time.
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19. June 2005 @ 10:28 |
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thanks for your work simpsim1 & L-Burna...
i hope we will make it... :)
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19. June 2005 @ 10:54 |
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i do not understand any of that, it may aswell be in French! keep up the good work though!
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19. June 2005 @ 14:07 |
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when somone makes a 100% DVD5 backup that works everytime please post it on a new thread because it takes ages to read the whole thread, just name it 'GT4 DVD5 backup 100% working' something like that so everyone know that this thread has got a full working copy of GT4 on DVD5
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19. June 2005 @ 19:41 |
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Using tmpegENC,to view the pss files only some of them are accessible.
But I used simple file joiner to join movie1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 and 9.pss gave the resulting joined file a .pss extension and then used tmpegENC to convert the file to mpeg2 format.Then I played it with Nero showtime.What you now have is a split screen view of one of the tracks.This goes for 1 lap then you have the credits screen(who put the game together) with a silver car racing around the track.From what I see here, movie2.pss - movie9.pss contain the credits sequence which equates to around 590mb.(although the resulting mpeg2 is only 57.6mb?)SO if we can get rid of these we are in dvd5 territory.L-Burna, movie2-9.pss files should be able to be removed safely.( I think? )
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19. June 2005 @ 20:17 |
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Well PSS_3 might want to keep this one in,seems like a good movie file to keep.I was thinking of just deleting some movies to see if that would work first,but it seems it would take close to 600MB of movie files.I think if I deleted some movies it might work.I can remove files to lower the image down in size by removing the movies,but then again that wouldn't make the game full though.It would be considered a rip,but all the gameplay could still be intact.I think I am going to have issues plugging in the edited movie files back into the image.I am guessing it would take close to 25-30 area to get the approximate size needed,dealing with the small vids.I can delete 41-65 if needed and that might work.The problem with the movie files is the size limit they are all pretty small.Alot of the movie files average about 25MB to 35MB a piece,so it is going to take alot of editing.I will keep working on it and post more results.Tricky part is deciding what to keep and what to get rid of to be honest.
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19. June 2005 @ 23:25 |
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do I understand? do you want to extract the movies, re-encode them in low quality and reput them into the iso, but you don't know how to put them back into it right?
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19. June 2005 @ 23:58 |
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i would take a game without movies. GOW was done like that
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20. June 2005 @ 00:28 |
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gow was without extra movies, not without the fmv movies in the story...
however i would take it too... i "only" want the real game with arcade and story mode...
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