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:: DVD rebuilder & return of the king... dissapointing results...
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ddlooping
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20. August 2004 @ 18:02 |
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Same error again. :(
"Frame size 1216x56 is not supported. Supported frame size is up to 720x576."
Would you mind pm'ing vurbal or jdobbs about it?
I'm about to go to bed. :/
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20. August 2004 @ 18:07 |
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I know this sounds silly, but you're missing something simple and common in the mix because this is not that complicated. We have only four choices. It's an operating system problem, a software/application compatibility problem, setup problem, or a hardware problem. If the specs you gave me for your system are true, then at its weakest you'd still have enough power to make this work so hardware is out unless defective. I don't know what applications or codec?s you have installed but its worth checking and its possible your operating system needs repair, reinstall, a reformat and reinstall.
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20. August 2004 @ 18:11 |
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We have some FAQ's going on this thread:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/97052
You have a problem that has been described, and solved by a previous installer:
Q-13: I get an Encode Basic error message that "Frame size 1248x56 is not supported. Supported frame size is up to 720x576".
A-13: Make sure you have checked the box "Add to AVS file" in the DVD-RB Setup panel. This is next to the MPEG2DEC3dg.dll path box.
Checking the box fixed the problem for them, but clearly not for you. This would lean towards a corrupted file problem.
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ddlooping
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20. August 2004 @ 18:11 |
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Well, I'll have to look into it tomorrow after work, Sophocles, Doc, as I'm about to go to bed.
Thanks, and goodnight. :)
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babelfish
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21. August 2004 @ 09:19 |
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ever get the fealing a thread has been hijacked ;)
just kidding folks...
when i say budding i mean i know films and me and my best m8 are working on a script which we hope to film next week - although we are both skint at the moment and potential financial bakcing might fail :(
i gotta admit that i dont know much about the B-frames, window frames and pictures frames (hehe) malarkey... but all i am using is my eyes... the CCE one looked slightly sharper (like higher contrast) but also seemed more JPEGgy (i work in 2d media so i see a lot of JPEGS on a daily basis) wheras the shrink one on default sharpness looked like a better quality JPEG but less heavily contrasted...
to be honest if on a 32" TV (admittedly a pretty good one) you can hardly tell the difference then i, personally, will go for rip/burn time any day of the week as its nice to have my pc off whilst watching films in lovely 5.1 (my poot is in the corner of my lounge)
ive been backing up back since 1x CD burners came out but i only recently purchased my own dvd burner (dual layer - when will DL media come down to a reasonable price??? £4:50 a disk is still a ripoff imho) - although have been using the one at work for the last 9 months or so - backing up over 200 movies - so im still pretty new to this whole process in terms of frames etc... its nice to see some peeps more knowledgeable than me discussing this in an adult manner :)
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21. August 2004 @ 09:32 |
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babelfish
Good point but if you really want to know what differences exists between the different progs, then you'll have to do the backups and comparisons yourself.
I realized the other day that I've grown weary of the debate and I really don't care anymore. In the end it?s not anyone's job to convince anyone else of anything unless they're being paid for it or they have an agenda but in either case you won't be able to trust them. I?ve spent the better part of three months on this debate and I?m happy with the destination that I arrived too. Find your own way and be happy with your choices.:)
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21. August 2004 @ 09:32 |
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Here's a good link that does a frame analysis of Shrink. The I, B, and P frame part is at the bottom. I think this article might also be a good intro to some terms you will likely come across as you continue to pursue video productions.
http://people.freenet.de/mb1svcd/
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21. August 2004 @ 09:40 |
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Replying to the original question of the thread. I thought this movie was just too good for compression so I just split the movie in 2 with DVDremake, maintaning all working menus. Easy peasy japanesy. I appreciate that this method may not suit all (and normally wouldnt suit me) but considering the level of action this film contains, it may well be worth considering for others.
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ddlooping
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21. August 2004 @ 09:42 |
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Hi all. :)
I found what the problem was.
I recently had to re-instal XP, and this obviously erased AviSynth registry entries. Duh!
Re-installing AviSynth seemed to do the trick. :)
Re-encoding LOTR-ROTK was we speak. ;)
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21. August 2004 @ 09:43 |
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Sophocles ... I seem to have arrived at that place also. I will certainly offer an opinion if someone is interested, however, I see little value in doing comparisons at this point. For those who have done their own testing, RB-CCE is the undeniable gold standard.
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21. August 2004 @ 09:45 |
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ddlooping ... 'glad you found the problem !!!
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ddlooping
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21. August 2004 @ 09:50 |
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Ok, guys, forget about the CCE/Shrink comparison tests. :)
What about comparison tests between the different DVD Shrink AEC options?
I know you do not have any use at all for these, but that could be quite helpful to DVD Shrink users with slow systems. ;)
P.S: thanks, Doc, I appreciate it. :)
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21. August 2004 @ 10:53 |
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dd...
Are you looking for recommendations on the different settings? Such as, which setting should I use on an older, higher contrast movie, etc.?
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ddlooping
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21. August 2004 @ 11:02 |
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In a nutshell, yes. :)
It would obviously be better if some comparison clips could be made and uploaded (I'd be providing the webspace and FTP account if neccessary).
DVD Shrink users (and others who might be interested) could then view the comparisons and make up their own minds as to what AEC option to use and when. ;)
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21. August 2004 @ 11:04 |
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Double "D"
Did you manage to make a backup with RB/CCE? BTW make sure you're using Avisynth 2.54.
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ddlooping
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21. August 2004 @ 11:09 |
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Sophocles, I only started the backup process two hours ago or so, so there should still be a while to go. :D
I'm using the latest version of Avisynth. ;)
Not sure which one it is, though.
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21. August 2004 @ 11:11 |
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Double "D"
Avisynth 2.55 could give you errors although it worked for me. The preferred version is 2.54
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ddlooping
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21. August 2004 @ 11:18 |
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Thanks for the info, Sophocles, it looks like it's v2.54. ;)
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ddlooping
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21. August 2004 @ 16:12 |
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My first DVD-RB/CCE backup (LOTR-ROTK) has successfully finished (6h39mn). :D
Now I need to find what movie I should do as my second test.
Any suggestions? :)
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21. August 2004 @ 16:13 |
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An epic type classic like Ben Hur. Or Gone With the Wind.
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ddlooping
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21. August 2004 @ 16:19 |
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I have neither of them, I'm affraid. :/
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ddlooping
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21. August 2004 @ 16:21 |
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QuestionS: what filter can be used to clean up CCE output, and how to set it up in DVD-RB?
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ddlooping
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21. August 2004 @ 18:13 |
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22. August 2004 @ 05:33 |
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ddlooping,
Filters used with avisynth are for covering defects in the original movie or video if present. Like an old movie or tv series.
Rebuilder just puts out what is on the original disc.
If you wish, you can soften the details like DVDshrink on smooth setting.
You need to use 2.69 if your using basic. In CCE advanced settings on rebuilder go to quality_prec and up the setting from 16 to 20. It will look a lot like a shrink copy on smooth.
I usually go to 12 for additional sharpness. I feel the tv smoothes the picture out plenty already.
If you have Braveheart it is taxing on the compression also. Try on full disc.
For the record I think the max sharp setting on shrink is excellent. You should recomend that people try it for determining their own tastes.
Sharpness can make zoom in pictures look rougher but I find on a tv actually watching the movie it helps.
Donald
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ddlooping
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22. August 2004 @ 08:43 |
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Thanks, Donald. :)
I'll try to augment the "quality_prec" setting, and see if it can diminish the "mosquito-noise" without compromising quality too much.
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