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What's better? DVDShrink or DVDXCopy Platinum?
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ScubaPete
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22. November 2004 @ 19:43 |
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Youse such a good boy, your Mama would be proud :)
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LeoLeroy
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27. November 2004 @ 18:25 |
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Wow, been here a day and a half and learned more than I have in the past 10 months!
I kind of skimmed through this thread without reading every post thouroughly, but I think I jot the jist (is that a real word??) of the thread.
After becoming totally frustrated with Nero about 10 months ago (probably my fault!), I bought 321's Xcopy Platinum. It works great, but has it's drawbacks as mentioned in this thread.
Later I bacame a Roxio nut and love their software. Now I've been told that Roxio and Nero don't get along very well. :-(
For now, I'm using DVD Decrypter and Roxio Disc Copier. A nice combination in my opinion, but I'm too new to have an opinion! :-)
Also, I recently bought a Pioneer DVR-108 16X DVD+-RW Double Layer Writer and I'm very happy with it. Works great and much faster than my old Sony 4x DVD writer. I was trying to buy the new Plextor drive, but wasn't available yet (714 ???). Note I say "old Sony!" I think it's only been around for a year or so.
Bought the Pioneer on November 11 (2004) for $129.99 plus $12.55 S&H (no tax). Not sure if I'm supposed to advertise any websites here, so if anyone is interested in where I bought it, PM me.
Anyway, that'my two cents for now. Special thanks to Pete and flip for pointing me in the right direction in the Newbie forum.
Edit: Pete, I forgot about a another burner I think you mentioned buying. You have to explain to the wife that "Three's Company!" :-)
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ScubaPete
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28. November 2004 @ 16:01 |
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Good to hear LeoLeroy,
Hey, we're glad you're burning up a storm :)
Consider this an invitation, stop on back, don't be a stranger, you're welcome even if you don't have problems to solve -
You can just "Hang out" and read some, improve your knowledge, help others if you can spot their problem, 3 heads are better than 2 (said the Cyclops to the Ogre) Or you could hang out in the "Safety Valve," a forum for gossiping about anything and everything under the sun :)
Check de place out, you just might find a little something that'll interest you -
Me ? Hey, I'll be over there, out from under that broiling hot sun, under the "Potted" Palm, right next to the water cooler. Just chewin' the fat and waiting for the next Newbie who needs a bit "O" help - Stop by and say "Howdy" -
I'll be lQQking forward to Sea'n you,
Cheers my friend,
Pete :P)
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Xolarrin
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30. November 2004 @ 11:10 |
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Scuba Pete, On Novermber 22 you made a very useful post about combinations of tools to use for dvd replication and authoring. Was wondering if I could impose on you to give your personal preferences as to which of these combinations work best for which jobs.
Thanks for you helpful tips
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ScubaPete
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1. December 2004 @ 14:26 |
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Xolarrin,
Here you go:
ScubaPete's program Rating Chart.
(in no specific order)
DVD Shrink, Very good ripper, excellent for normal backups (using the Deep Analysis and Quality Enhancements)
DVD Decrypter, good for burning w/ DVD Shrink and excellent for problem rips.
Nero Ultra Edition, good to excellent suite of proggys - wide range of uses
DVD2One, excellent for joining "Flipper" DVD's and doing episodel work
Nero's recode2, excellent for custom editing DVD's, joining "flipper" DVD while keeping the menus
CopyToDVD, excellent for burning, considered the fastest burning proggy around
AnyDVD, the best "behind the scenes" DVD Ripper (can't do it all, still requires a backup ripper)
DVD43 (free), fair to medium for a "behind the scenes" ripper
CloneDVD2 (elby), very good for an encoder / burner when DVD's register 95% or better
CloneDVD 2(not elby), poor to fair doing anything. Not recommended
DVD XCopy, RF Platinum w/patch, fair to good for movie only. Not recommended, too many conflicts, discontinued
dvd Santa, fair to medium as an "all-in-one" rendering proggy
DVDCopy 2 (InterVideo), good to very good encoding / burning proggy, extremely fast
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atibbs
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2. December 2004 @ 22:04 |
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I fell like a sucker!!!
I bought DVD X COPY PLATINUM on the web for $75 (ripper included version) a couple of days ago. I haven't received it yet.
Through the web I found you guys and read all the forums regarding copy programs.
I downloaded DVD Shrink and was able to burn a very acceptable copy of 'Riddick' using SHRINK and Roxio Easy DVD Copy.
Did I throw $75 down the drain...
It look like I have.
SHRINK was so easy to use and worked very well with only turning off my virus protection.
Should I keep DVD X COPY PLATINUM when I get it or sell the unopened retailers copy?
Andy
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3. December 2004 @ 03:15 |
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They shouldnt even be selling DVD X Copy anymore the program has been discontinued. Good luck trying to sell that to anyone who know's a little about backing up DVD's. I would see if you could return it to who you bought it from?
Hey wanna buy some land in Florida? LOL I'm just kiddin.. :-) You are already using one of the best programs (DVD Shrink) out there to back up your DVD's. So there is no need to even open DVD X Copy when it gets there.
Good Luck,
Burners Nec 2500A
Pioneer DVR 105
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wild77
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3. December 2004 @ 07:18 |
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dvdxcopy-international is now selling platinum and offering support.If you bought your xcopy anywhere else you may have a problem.Either way return platinum and keep using Shrink.Xcopy is outdated I use DVD Decrypter then DVD Shrink with Nero CopytoDVD or Decrypter to burn.That's what is so great about this site,all the different combinations I have found.Keep trying until you find what you like!
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ScubaPete
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3. December 2004 @ 09:57 |
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Hi Andy and welcome to aD,
The company they are talking about bought all of 321's stock after they went out of business. Most of the members here bought XCopy too. I got mine when they first came out and the price was $59.99 for the original DVD XCopy then later we got Xpress for a Free upgrade. Anyway, we then found, as you did, DVD Shrink and other proggys like it and felt "cheated" also.
My recommendation, sell the "sealed" XCopy on eBay, you should be able to get full price for it. Even friends of yours will be interested but then again, when they find out about our proggys, they'll feel cheated too - Re-thinking it, better to go the eBay route.
My suggestion at this time, since you've just started using Roxio, consider getting rid or Roxio. My reason, Roxio behaves like a $3.00 whore. Greedy and selfish wanting to infect every sailor (other proggys) on the dock (your PC). Roxio is probably the reason you had difficulty with your Virus Scan. We have a ton of programs but one of the best proggys we have is Nero. Roxio won't allow Nero to play in the same schoolyard during recess.
If you decide to do it - you'll need this ?
In order to cleanly and totally remove all of Roxio's tentacles and tendrils from your system, use Roxio's own uninstall program and then, use either Roxizap OR Roxio Zapper ? Here are the links:
A great Roxio remover
Roxizap:
http://softwareupdates.roxio.com/gm/support/tools/roxizap.exe
Roxio Zapper:
http://www.microadvantage.net/downloads/zapper60.zip
A good proggyn to use with DVD Shrink is DVD Decrypter (FREE). It will burn "automatically" when used with Shrink saving you several steps in the backup process.
Here's a guide and the download for the proggy -
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2/74599
Cheers,
Pete
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3. December 2004 @ 12:53 |
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That's right ScubaPete about Roxio. I used it years back and had a lot of problems with it. Then in 2001 I upgraded my operating system to Windows XP and sure enough Roxio wouldn't recognize my drives so I had to wait for a patch to come out and that is when I jumped on the Nero band wagon and have had excellent success. Nero works great with DVD Shrink and Nero Recode works great with Slysofts AnyDVD. As far as DVDXCopy goes I bit the bullet on that one. I had plenty of problems with certain movies and when I got hooked up with DVD Shrink presto problems were solved not to mention finding out Nero was incorperated into DVD Shrink.
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3. December 2004 @ 13:37 |
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... A $3 whore ... hmmmmm ... Sounds like it'd cost more to rid ones-self of the after effects ...
... Once again, a ScubaPete induced smile ...
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ScubaPete
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3. December 2004 @ 15:16 |
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Yep, manestle,
That sounds like 80% of the pple here. We all went through the same thing. There are a ton of XCopy's gathering dust all over. Me, I keep it on my PC and every 150th backup or so, iffin I remember, I'll do an XCopy (with the patch of course so I don't get that warning screen, I'll fire off a DVD-5 copy using DVD XCopy just so's I keep feeling that I got my money's worth.
Cheers,
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ScubaPete
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3. December 2004 @ 15:58 |
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catfreak,
Quote:
... Once again, a ScubaPete induced smile ...
Heh, heh - anything that I can do to brighten your day my friend, I'm glad I could do it :)
Cheers,
Pete
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atibbs
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3. December 2004 @ 18:36 |
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Great info as usual gang. I think I will pick up Nero this weekend. From now on I am going to investigate more before impulse buying (i.e. Roxio and DVD X Copy). I really appreciate the walkthroughs and links.
Thanks again!
Andy
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zippin
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4. December 2004 @ 17:38 |
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Yes I am a noob here. I just wanna share my story..
I have a Sony Vaio. For about 4 months, I was looking for sofware to burn dvd's. Someone recommended DVDSHRINK. I have used it 20 times in a week, and I am very pleased. I use DVDCOPY to burn them, and have not had any problems yet.
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ScubaPete
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4. December 2004 @ 19:23 |
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Howdy zippin,
Besides wishing you welcome, all I have to say to you is -
BURN on BABY, BURN ON ! ! !
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5. December 2004 @ 05:57 |
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I think both dvdxcopy and shrink has their pro and con..
dvdxcopy has their own built in burning engine ie gear burning engine if I was not wrong while shrink does not have it own burning engine and always rely on dvd decry or Nero as a burning engine.
One thing dvdxcopy has and shrink does not have is dvdxcopy only store dvd data on a tempfile and it need not have to save the whole load of dvd movie in the harddisk which occupied alot of your hd space.
It is adviseable to use xcopy if you do not have a big harddisk space.
I use both the dvdxopy and shrink and I found both are at par no doubt that dvdxcopy had gone.
I have 120gb harddisk so there is no problem whether I use dvdxcopy or shrink.
I certainly agree with some of you out there saying that shrink is a very good software and furthermore it is free of charge.
But I think the dvd encry is a stand alone software bcos it can read and write to your dvd disc without the use of shrink.
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5. December 2004 @ 05:58 |
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I think both dvdxcopy and shrink has their pro and con..
dvdxcopy has their own built in burning engine ie gear burning engine if I was not wrong while shrink does not have it own burning engine and always rely on dvd decry or Nero as a burning engine.
One thing dvdxcopy has and shrink does not have is dvdxcopy only store dvd data on a tempfile and it need not have to save the whole load of dvd movie in the harddisk which occupied alot of your hd space.
It is adviseable to use xcopy if you do not have a big harddisk space.
I use both the dvdxopy and shrink and I found both are at par no doubt that dvdxcopy had gone.
I have 120gb harddisk so there is no problem whether I use dvdxcopy or shrink.
I certainly agree with some of you out there saying that shrink is a very good software and furthermore it is free of charge.
But I think the dvd encry is a stand alone software bcos it can read and write to your dvd disc without the use of shrink.
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5. December 2004 @ 06:16 |
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Hey henryting,
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by DVDXCopy storing small temp files on your hard drive. It always stored normal DVD files in the directory of my choice and then burned them. In fact I had problems with DVDXCopy's burn engine so I use to let the program decrypt and shrink the movie and left a real burning engine Nero take over the burning role. The files left on my hard drive by DVDXCopy were the same size as any other ripper program. I must say my version of DVDXCopy is old so maybe things have changed since then.
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5. December 2004 @ 06:42 |
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Hi manestle
I am using dvdxcopy xpress or plat. All my dvd files were stored into the temp dir in the RAM while dvdxcopy is doing it work. After all the process ie the reading and writing to dvd the files were not written into my harddisk instead they are all gone when the process was over. What I meant was the dvdxcopy software does it's job by storing all the file in the RAM ie. Radam Access Memory without writing the whole damn movie into the harddisk. Sorry dont mean to be rude.
By doing this, the dvdxcopy software save me a lot of harddisk space and worries by forgetting to erase the whole chulk of movie files.
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wild77
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5. December 2004 @ 11:29 |
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some people are just dangerous with computers,they are better off using xcopy!
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dks142
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5. December 2004 @ 11:45 |
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Hey henryting, do you have 5 GB of RAM? The XCOPY proggy deletes the files after burning them to disc, but they are on your harddrive. If you want to save them, just rename the file, or copy it and rename the file before you start the burning process. You can set up a new folder to be the TEMP work folder if that is easier. The only part of XCOPY in your RAM is the program itself. Hope this helps.
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5. December 2004 @ 11:59 |
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dks142, You're absolutely right. I didn't want to argue about it but DVDXCopy is no different than any of the other ripping programs out there. You have to store the decrypted and compressed files somewhere on your hard drive until they are burned. You can have them automatically delete after the burn process or allow them to stay in case you would like to burn another copy. The only thing used up in RAM is the program itself like you said. A lot of DVD media players actually allow you to play the files that were stored on your hard drive. I prefer creating a ISO Image myself just because it's only one file and about all your popular burning programs will burn the standard (which is what ISO means) ISO Image. It takes up the same amount of space as if you used the individual file process. I've been burning discs since the beginning and gained a lot of knowledge through trial and error. I can remmember burning CD-R's when the things costed me $5.99 a piece and technology wasn't there yet. May I say lots of expensive coasters!
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ScubaPete
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5. December 2004 @ 15:56 |
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dvd encry is a stand alone software bcos it can read and write to your dvd disc without the use of shrink
Is this a new proggy that I don't know about ?
Tossing my 2 cents in on the DVD XCopy matter - at one time (before the birth of DVD Shrink 3.2) DVD XCopy and DVD Shrink put out the same quality backups BUT since the Deep Analysis and the Quality Enhancements, there is no competition. DVD Shrink makes a better backup than XCopy, PERIOD !
DVD Shrink can be setup to delete the files of the previous DVD leaving just one DVD on your HD after the burn. Those leaning on DVD XCopy are depending on the past and one day will have a rude awaking -
and life will go on . . . .
cheers,
Pete
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dks142
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5. December 2004 @ 23:14 |
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ScubaPete sees all, ScubaPete knows all.
Much respect.
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