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mansh2006
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29. October 2006 @ 00:00 |
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Dear Punisher1. You are right. It is a piggybacking. I just don't think of it and all of a sudden I discovered I can surf thr internet with a network name linksys from my home. I guess that is why when I type the ip address in the browser, it brings me nowhere. Does that mean I can not solve the low id problem? Should I then stop attempting to download in emule?
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29. October 2006 @ 03:41 |
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sounds like you're abit new to the wireless 'net thing, mansh. if the router isn't yours, then you probably shouldn't be messing with it's settings anyways. you might ruin the other guy's connection, and then when HE gets tech support, likely they'll set up wireless security and then you won't have ANY free internet. the same is so if you use too much of their bandwidth: i.e., downloading alot all of the time. it's one thing if it's not a SHARED connection, but if you and the other person are BOTH downloading at the same time, he'll most likely notice a decrease in speed, and, once again, get somebody (tech support-wise) to check it out for him, and the same thing will happen.
when i got my (Dell) laptop earlier this year, it came with a built-in wireless card, and it always "reminded" me that there is an available connection (usually 'linksys') and asked if i want to connect. of course, i have my OWN hi-speed, but i was just thinking that that's probably how you figured it out, eh, mansh2006?
just a thought.
btw, you can still download using eMule with LowID (i do), you just don't connect with as many peoples as you would if you had HighID. if my memory serves me (as it seldom does), LowID's can only connect with users with HighID, and can't directly download anything from other LowID's. for instance, YOU wouldn't be able to download anything from me ;) hope this answers your Q.
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mansh2006 ditto what darkflux said. if you really want highid you will need to crack open the piggy bank and get your own highspeed internet and your own router. otherwise your lowid will be just that.
i will say whoever has the linksys router probably will not figure out you or anyone else is piggybacking since he has done two typical non-experienced router risks: 1.he should turn off and rename his SSID (linksys) since he has no security on his wireless, and 2.(since you are able to share his internet connection) there is no security on his wireless config. no security = hacking and internet sharing.
BF2 player; punisher_bob and you just got smoked!!
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mansh2006
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29. October 2006 @ 14:52 |
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Dear Darflux and Punisher1,
thanks alot. I was guessing that. I have stopped using emule as it is really difficult to dload anything thr low id. I should be happy with what I am getting as a free rider. More greed means more danger!! I am here just for few mnths and so did not acquire own high speed internet connection.
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1. November 2006 @ 04:46 |
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hi, all. this seems to be, like, the ONLY eMule thread on this site (or at least the BIGGEST one) so i thought i'd share this here :)
not sure exactly how many people this plagues, but every time i search for mp3's, i get "flooded" with a ton of fakes, and no matter WHAT i put in the parameters (i.e., "Max. Size", "Availability", etc.), i'd always get flooded with nothing but junk.
btw, a good way to TELL for sure it's junk, is if you're running in advanced mode (i've got the latest eMule 0.47c), and you get more than 200 results, and they ALL seem to have more than 200 sources, and (here's the REAL telltale sign) NONE OF THEM have numbers in parentheses after the "Availability (Sources)" [for example: 75(5) ]
[note: from eMule's website: "A value in ( ) behind the availability are sources which can be added directly to the download without eMule having to search for them again."]
so the fakes are there when you initially search for them, but either they're NOT there when you try to download them, or they turn out to be fakes (especially if they seem to download rather fast, not to mention RIGHT AWAY, when normally mp3's might download abit slower, or take awhile to do so).
so that's the problem signs, now, ON TO THE SOLUTION! this has worked for me, but may not work for you, depending upon the differences in our systems, but it's worth a shot so...
when you go to search for something (mp3), let's say we'll search for a song called "fall" by "muddvain" ;) well rather than to type "muddvain fall" (without quotes, of course), instead, type "muddvain fall all", or "muddvain fall fa". the trick is to "trick" the server into double checking it's work, since "fall" contains "fa" (and "all"), so any matches of "fa" would include "fall". but for some reason, none of the "bad" files show up when you put in redundant parts of one of the words in with your normal search! just a couple "extra" letters should do [don't overdo it, or you might end up with NO results :( ]. try it yourself, and see if it works for you. if so, great! i recommend EVERYONE put this new workaround into good use before the RIIA comes out with a new "counter-workaround" >:P
to the moderators, if this is in the wrong place, please let me know or just move it :)
cheers, all
darkflux
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lola20
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15. November 2006 @ 18:18 |
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I have a low id too and having trouble following the tutorial suggested on page 1 of this post.
When I type 192.168.1.1 in IE, it does open a popup asking for user name and account but none of the passwords suggested work (admin, roots etc, I've tried them all and none work, it tells me access denied after 3 trials). I just cant get rid of my lowid and getting tired of it.
My router is a D-Link DWL-G122. I would like any suggestion because there is definitelly a problem as, on top of that, I keep loosing my wireless web connnection and have to click "repair" all the time because the D-Link just looses the signal for some reason ... Help ! :)
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16. November 2006 @ 04:39 |
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hi lola20,
your D-Link DWL-G122 is NOT a router, but a USB Adapter for wireless connection TO your router. the router would be the box that your ISP's cable is connected to, which then sends the signal to your D-Link adapter. we'll need to know the model of the D-Link to tell you the default login for the router, since each login set is different for each individual router.
also, if you still have troubles, try punisher1's lengthy, albeit useful, guide on page 28. it's helped more than a few passers-by to this site.
if you have anymore questions, feel free to just ask :)
darkflux
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lola20
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16. November 2006 @ 08:27 |
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Oh my goodness shame on me lool ! Sorry about that, I wasnt sure which was the router :)
So my router is a Linksys WRT 54G. Would you know the default password / user ID for that ? If so, I will try that.
Eitherwise, thanks for the advice of trying the punisher1's page 28 guide. I will try it in case the default password still doesnt work.
Thank you Darkflux !
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16. November 2006 @ 12:58 |
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no prob :)
i have a WRT 54G myself, and the default pass should be admin (the username field should be left blank). if this doesn't work, the password has probably been changed once, and the only way to access your settings is to reset the router (with the pen tip button on the back).
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT NOT TO RESET IT IF YOU DO NOT KNOW THE SETTINGS YOU USE FOR INTERNET ACCESS! i cannot stress this enough, if you are getting internet NOW, and you don't know your settings, check with your ISP first, before attempting a reset, or you may be stuck without internet for abit! if you're sure of your ISP's settings, it should be ok to reset. hold the button for about 10 seconds, and wait for all the lights to come back on afterwards. then try the admin pass again on the 192.168.1.1 page.
anything else, just ask :)
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lola20
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16. November 2006 @ 16:10 |
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Thanks so much Darkflux ! Turns out the friend who installed my router had changed the password ... After getting it, I managed to get in the Router page and follow the page 1 tutorial. What I did is changed into "applications and gaming" then "port triggering" and i typed Emule, 4660~4712 - 4660~4712 and ticked "enable". I got a highid straight away ! (not so bad for a newby lol!).\
However, I now have some major concerns because reading those pages it seems to say that when you do that port triggering thing, you loose security on your router and computer ... Is this true ? What am I supposed to do to prevent this ? Is my computer safe even when I am not running emule ?
Also, in Emule's option, I clicked on "test ports" and it gave me a succesful ICP but said UDP failed ... Is this normal ?
I'm so sorry to bother you with all my questions but I am kind of lost with all that and don't know if what I am doing / did is good ... Thanks for your help !! ;o)
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17. November 2006 @ 10:24 |
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congrats on getting it on the first try! and don't feel bad about asking questions, lola. that's what forums are for, the free discussion of ideas [provided your ideas fit in with the topic, of course ;) ].
all port forwarding does is tells any traffic SPECIFICALLY aimed at that port to go to the specified PC. however if you don't download very often, you might want to disable those ports when not in use (which is simple, just uncheck the boxes in the router's config and save). but if you download every to every other day, you should be ok, since the odds of a hacker determining which (of the thousands of ports) you use is rather slim and since they can't use a port while you are running eMule...
which brings me to my next point, that you may want to try CHANGING the default ports (both in the router, and eMule) to a random 4 digit number. some people even prefer 5 digit numbers (which is better if it works for you).
the UDP problem may lie in the fact that you need to set, in your router, TWO settings; one for TCP, and one for UDP, each with a different port range (i.e., 4760-4769 TCP / 4770-4779 UDP). this SHOULD fix your problem, although there may be other variables at work if not...
if you are genuinely interested in learning more about routers and their general usage and settings (particularly in conjunction with eMule), this thread, although a few dozen pages long, is QUITE informative, and without it, i might add, i might not have figured my situation out, myself. as such i would like to thank ALL contributors to this thread (questions and answers) for expanding our collective knowledges, and also personally welcome any future questions regarding router issues.
THANKS EVERYONE :)
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17. November 2006 @ 10:36 |
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btw, to further expand on port triggering security, port triggering is more secure than just plain port forwarding. in fact port triggering is a TYPE of port forwarding, only instead of using the same ports for sending and receiving data, it sends on one, and receives on another, and only allows incoming data on the one, when there was outgoing data on the other, making it PERFECT for P2P!
here's more on that if you're interested: http://www.portforward.com/help/porttriggering.htm
cheers!
darkflux
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18. November 2006 @ 05:38 |
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Originally posted by darkflux:
hi, all. this seems to be, like, the ONLY eMule thread on this site (or at least the BIGGEST one) so i thought i'd share this here :)
not sure exactly how many people this plagues, but every time i search for mp3's, i get "flooded" with a ton of fakes, and no matter WHAT i put in the parameters (i.e., "Max. Size", "Availability", etc.), i'd always get flooded with nothing but junk.
btw, a good way to TELL for sure it's junk, is if you're running in advanced mode (i've got the latest eMule 0.47c), and you get more than 200 results, and they ALL seem to have more than 200 sources, and (here's the REAL telltale sign) NONE OF THEM have numbers in parentheses after the "Availability (Sources)" [for example: 75(5) ]
[note: from eMule's website: "A value in ( ) behind the availability are sources which can be added directly to the download without eMule having to search for them again."]
so the fakes are there when you initially search for them, but either they're NOT there when you try to download them, or they turn out to be fakes (especially if they seem to download rather fast, not to mention RIGHT AWAY, when normally mp3's might download abit slower, or take awhile to do so).
so that's the problem signs, now, ON TO THE SOLUTION! this has worked for me, but may not work for you, depending upon the differences in our systems, but it's worth a shot so...
when you go to search for something (mp3), let's say we'll search for a song called "fall" by "muddvain" ;) well rather than to type "muddvain fall" (without quotes, of course), instead, type "muddvain fall all", or "muddvain fall fa". the trick is to "trick" the server into double checking it's work, since "fall" contains "fa" (and "all"), so any matches of "fa" would include "fall". but for some reason, none of the "bad" files show up when you put in redundant parts of one of the words in with your normal search! just a couple "extra" letters should do [don't overdo it, or you might end up with NO results :( ]. try it yourself, and see if it works for you. if so, great! i recommend EVERYONE put this new workaround into good use before the RIIA comes out with a new "counter-workaround" >:P
to the moderators, if this is in the wrong place, please let me know or just move it :)
cheers, all
..dunno about all that, i just go for discography/discographia and band name, at the moment it works fine..
..or if you use the same name as here, say, a white rabbit then i'd just go search band name, run thru the sources, search shared files and dl from a trusted source, and me, i'd trust a white rabbit altho you may have to live with his eclectic tastes..
..btw, has anyone got a copy of the "the bed-sitting room" ?
..toodA irB moasly 'experimentin'
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justawr
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18. November 2006 @ 05:49 |
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Originally posted by mansh2006:
Dear Darflux and Punisher1,
thanks alot. I was guessing that. I have stopped using emule as it is really difficult to dload anything thr low id. I should be happy with what I am getting as a free rider. More greed means more danger!! I am here just for few mnths and so did not acquire own high speed internet connection.
..rubbish, it's only difficult to use the mule if you have limited tastes, get a wider view on life and you'll have no problems dling something very day, even with a low ID...
..lessee, i've Othello as a play, a film, an Opera, a Midsummer's night dream as a play, 2 films, an Opera and a ballet, all the Marx Brothers, all the Superman movies, etc etc***
*** i hasten to add as copies of damaged cds or other format......
..toodA irB moasly 'experimentin'
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lola20
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19. November 2006 @ 14:22 |
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Hi Darkflux and thanks for your help and encouragements :)
However, after I finally managed all that & to get a highid, I am now getting a lowid again !! I dont understand why because i havent switched of my computer or anything, i have just gotten disconnecetd from internet and then i had a low id ... All the router settings I had put in are the same and haven't changed. So how come? Do I need to do the whole router procedure again each time I get disconnected from the internet (which happnes often)? I dont get it ...
Originally posted by darkflux:
which brings me to my next point, that you may want to try CHANGING the default ports (both in the router, and eMule) to a random 4 digit number. some people even prefer 5 digit numbers (which is better if it works for you).
Regarding what you are saying, how do I do that and where exactly do I change those numbers in Emule and the router? Do both numbers need to match in Emule and Router(I guess so)? Do I do that in the router where I changed the ports the first time? And where in Emule's options? I am getting confused with all configurations now lol :)
Originally posted by darkflux:
the UDP problem may lie in the fact that you need to set, in your router, TWO settings; one for TCP, and one for UDP, each with a different port range (i.e., 4760-4769 TCP / 4770-4779 UDP). this SHOULD fix your problem, although there may be other variables at work if not...
Right, there again, I am not sure where to change those numbers in the router configuration ... And should I enter those exact numbers as you wrote them or any 4 digits? If I do change them, do I need to change the Emule settings too?
Well, like you said thanks to all for postings and help, it is really appreciated espcially for people like me who are lost and confuised ... Thanks all and thanks Darkflux !! :)
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20. November 2006 @ 03:17 |
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hi again, lola :)
have you tried punisher1's guide on page 28 (13. August 2006 @ 11:29) that i mentioned earlier? it answers most of the questions you just asked, and has been a boon to many of us. if you're having trouble understanding it, just let me know, and i'll PM you and walk you through it :)
if you have questions that aren't covered there, post them here, and we'll do our best to help you out, also.
oh, and i would stick with the ports in punisher1's guide until you can STAY HiID, the nyou can feel free to use any old random ports.
darkflux
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lola20
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21. November 2006 @ 19:47 |
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Hi Darkflux.
Believe it or not, I think i have fixed the problem !! What i did is instead of using the port triggering tool, i used the port forward one. Then i changed the ports in mule and it worked! Since then, i have cut off the internet and rebooted the computer and have kept my highid !! I am so pleased :) Thanks so much for all your help ! You are right, this page is really complete about all possible info and issues with lowid. Thanks again !!
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22. November 2006 @ 20:35 |
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glad you got it working, lola :) happy downloading!
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lola20
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23. November 2006 @ 18:00 |
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Lol thanks so much I wouldn't have managed otherwise :)))
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greatbong
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24. November 2006 @ 19:42 |
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Allright folks, I need your help from the gurus.
Here is my topology
Scientific Atlanta (comcast) cable modem <--> Linksys WRT54G wireless router <--> Win2k host
Now, I did 3 things to the Linksys modem
1. Port Forwarding 4662/TCP, 4672/UDP
2. Port Triggering
3. DMZ enable for my host IP address
4. ipconfig
Here are all the screen shots
Now I restarted emule multiple times (havent rebooted my win2k computer though) but still get lowid with EMULE.
Gurus, can someone please help me out.
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hey greatbong,
looks like your basic settings are all in order, although you shouldn't leave DMZ on for any period of time, as this leaves your system exceptionally vulnerable to outside attacks, so only use this setting to test, then turn it back off right away.
ok, so a few questions: have you tried to get HiID without the Linksys router
(i.e., Scientific Atlanta (comcast) cable modem <--> Win2k host) directly? if you cannot get HiID, even without the Linksys, then the problem lies either in the modem, or with your ISP.
also, what is the exact model number of the modem? look on the back, it should be "DPX" or "EPX" something (or "DPR" or "EPR" something). if your modem has a built in router, you may need to change some settings in there.
if you can get back to me with these, i'm off work for the next couple, so i'll try to check back often to help you out, and maybe a few of the others here may have something to add...
darkflux
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25. November 2006 @ 07:07 |
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Thanks a lot darkflux. I will disable DMZ.
My Cable Modem is DPC2100 Scientific Atlanta (SFA).
About 2yrs ago, I had a different modem - RCA - and I had no problems getting HiID with wink2k host <-> RCA modem.
I have not tried the win2k<-->SFA direct connection yet.
Any clues from the modem model # ? Have other comcast subscribers faced the same problem ?
Originally posted by darkflux:
hey greatbong,
looks like your basic settings are all in order, although you shouldn't leave DMZ on for any period of time, as this leaves your system exceptionally vulnerable to outside attacks, so only use this setting to test, then turn it back off right away.
ok, so a few questions: have you tried to get HiID without the Linksys router
(i.e., Scientific Atlanta (comcast) cable modem <--> Win2k host) directly? if you cannot get HiID, even without the Linksys, then the problem lies either in the modem, or with your ISP.
also, what is the exact model number of the modem? look on the back, it should be "DPX" or "EPX" something (or "DPR" or "EPR" something). if your modem has a built in router, you may need to change some settings in there.
if you can get back to me with these, i'm off work for the next couple, so i'll try to check back often to help you out, and maybe a few of the others here may have something to add...
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25. November 2006 @ 16:45 |
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the modem doesn't have built-in router settings or anything like that, and simply sends the internet signal to the PC(s). so, i would try just the modem to PC direct test, and if you're still getting LowID with that, we can pretty much rule that it has to do with either your ISP or PC's settings, and NOT the router (for now). when you try the direct connect approach, double-check that you did everything on punisher1's list on pg. 28 (it's easy to miss something) except for the Linksys details, and let me know what your status is.
also, does Win2k have a "Windows Firewall" or "Windows Security Center", like XP? if it has some security section in Control Panel, there may be settings in there to fiddle with as well.
darkflux
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