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The Official OC (OverClocking) Thread!
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17. November 2008 @ 12:33 |
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well at those settings all is well. ran prime95 for 2 hrs. everything was fine.got it at 4.16ghz right now... havent been able to get it stable.. im sure im at my max with it. so after 1 try at 4.1 back to the sweet spot of 3.6ghz....
glad you said somethng about the crucial mem.. i gotta get a rma in order so get the 1 stick relpaced.
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17. November 2008 @ 16:06 |
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Anybody benchmarked the new i7 nehalems yet?
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17. November 2008 @ 18:09 |
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I shouldn't say this prematurely
Nothing premature about Rob's efforts if it was human it would already be in middle school.;P
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it does help when you use "good" products and not throw away crap from other manufacturers!!
Don't buy it and you won't have to chuck it!
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Rob just stick that non-OC ram in a little machine for the wife or kiddies.
That's what I keep telling myself and the stockpiles just keep growing. LOL
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17. November 2008 @ 19:40 |
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harvrdguy
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20. November 2008 @ 20:20 |
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Amazing article. But I'm right back where I started last year: Core 2 duo over quad core. Here's the conclusion of the article: Originally posted by sam's tech report on i7 nehalem:
In fact, for the average guy, the secret hero of our test results was the Core 2 Duo E8600. If your main reason for wanting a fast computer is to surf the web and play games, you're probably better off getting a fast dual-core like the E8600 than you are picking up a Core i7-920 or any quad-core processor. Game developers keep threatening to really make use of more than two cores, but it just hasn't happened yet.
I know you guys, esp. sam, boozer, shaff, keep pushing the quads - but look at all those benches back on pgs. 6 and 7. It looks like Valve is working on some truly multi-threaded stuff, but .... I would guess that for serious gaming the E8600 could last someone through the end of 2010 before you'd have to chuck it all and move into a nehalem mobo.
Memory-wise he liked the corsair modules, but I see that Rob has the direct factory hotline number for his memory which is impressive. So which is the better memory, Sam's Dominators, or Rob's Mushkins?
-Rich
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20. November 2008 @ 21:06 |
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The one thing I will say on that subject, for single graphics that's absolutely right, E8600 > anything else out there. get an X2 though, and the E8600 gets dusted by even a Q6600. My frame rate in both Crysis and Age of Conan went up more by going from E4300 to Q6600 than it did from HD3870 to HD4870X2. Food for thought.
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harvrdguy
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20. November 2008 @ 21:13 |
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Thanks for the clarification sam - I never did figure out what board he was running on. More than "food for thought" I'm back on quad! Lol
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20. November 2008 @ 21:18 |
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Hehe :) - going to post some images over at the Graphics thread by the way
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21. November 2008 @ 01:05 |
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dual GPUs need quad, and they really shine on i7. single cards an E8600 FTW. thats why i wanted an E8600 for a while, till i decided on getting a 4870X2
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MaccerM
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21. November 2008 @ 06:54 |
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Hi, I have a E6320 @ 3.2Ghz on an Asus P5N-T Deluxe & 8800GT SLi. It is stable with 1.3875v vcore and 1.4v N/B, linked-sync with 2Gig Dominator 8500 4-4-4-12 at 2.1v.
I can get it to boot at 3.325Ghz with 1.40v vcore, 1.52v N/B and 5-5-5-15 on the RAM and have run 3dmark at this level but it is not stable and keeps crashing! Any sugestions? I've read of people playing with GTL ref... Core temps are <60c with my TRUE.
Q9550 @ 3.4Ghz-1.275v & TRUE, Asus P5N-T Deluxe, 4Gb Dominator 1066 (5-5-5-15), Inno3d OC 8800GTs in SLi with TT Duorbs, 580w 5.1 Setup, 2x DVD-RAM, 320&160Gb SATA2 HDDs, 17" 3ms Hyundai TFT, 700w Jeantech PSU.
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21. November 2008 @ 12:10 |
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You'll need more than 1.40V to get to 3.325Ghz stable. My E4300 only made 3.20Ghz and that used 1.45V.
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21. November 2008 @ 12:36 |
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as Sam stated you will need a little more Vcore than the 1.40v your useing now. plus your more than doubleing your OC on that CPU. so you might have to give it the 1.5v it max's out at to get it stable at 3.325ghz. but i would be careful about going that high.. hate to see a melt down on ya...
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Memory-wise he liked the corsair modules, but I see that Rob has the direct factory hotline number for his memory which is impressive. So which is the better memory, Sam's Dominators, or Rob's Mushkins?
it is truel hard to say which is better. i have had the dominator series in my system and they didnt work to well so i took them back. since ive had the mushkin stuff in here ive had nothing but praise for them. i beleive i heard Russ say this once... it is luck of the draw to get all these different parts to work together smoothly. thats why if you look at all of our RIGs they are pretty much along the same lines of parts. a different mobo here,different GPU there....its luck of the draw i think. in general we all know the good stuff and try to get it. and we know the bad stuff and stay away.then there is the middle of the road stuff that we get and playwith and see how it works with what we as a individual has at the time.
i think i have found some good memory that works well with my GA-EP45-DS3R MOBO. i know i will never try and use crucial memory on a gigabyte board. yes i know a few guys here that has crucial mem on gigabyte boards, but the luck i have had with them not me. not again...lol
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21. November 2008 @ 12:42 |
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update to the latest stable bios, clear CMOS, and hit up 1.45 on the CPU, 1.4 on the NB and 1.6 on the PLL
underclock the RAM to 667MHz (should be in the the first or last strap), set it to 2.1V DRAM and letencies to 555 15.
once you get the CPU clock, then work on the RAM clock, then lowering the voltages. and latencies.
also set the PCIE frequency to 100MHz and PCI frequency to 33.33 MHz
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21. November 2008 @ 12:44 |
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Update, but don't download Beta BIOSes, they're not nice.
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21. November 2008 @ 12:49 |
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(yeah, i know, which is why i said latest stable) :D
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MaccerM
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21. November 2008 @ 14:09 |
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I thought I might be able to get away with 1.4v since only 125mhz lower is stable at 1.3875!
I've not fiddled with PCIe frequency or anything like that. I'll give it a little more juice and see if that stabilises it. Quite impressed with what this CPU has to give to be honest. It's probably been the best chip I've ever had, and I suppose even 3.2 is not too shabby for a 1.86Ghz part! I'll update later! Thx guys
Q9550 @ 3.4Ghz-1.275v & TRUE, Asus P5N-T Deluxe, 4Gb Dominator 1066 (5-5-5-15), Inno3d OC 8800GTs in SLi with TT Duorbs, 580w 5.1 Setup, 2x DVD-RAM, 320&160Gb SATA2 HDDs, 17" 3ms Hyundai TFT, 700w Jeantech PSU.
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21. November 2008 @ 14:30 |
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i was even more happy with my E2140 (At 1.6 stock) hitting 3.4 stable :D
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harvrdguy
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21. November 2008 @ 18:31 |
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Yeah Shaff, I forgot you had mentioned that the difference is crossfire = quad.
So now that nehalem is out I've updated my new build wishlist - the 920 is pretty cheap at $220, but all the deluxe overclocking boards are closer to $400 up from $200 on the p45 boards.
I'm gonna hold off a bit until the 5870x2 comes out this coming summer, by then the nahelem boards will be cheaper, and maybe the 940 chip will also have dropped by then.
The whole idea is to have a decent chance of running Crysis maxed at 2560x1600, (although sam doesn't think the 5870x2 will do that - he thinks it will take the 6870x2.) LOL
By the way, now that you're on water, what do you think of the cooler that Russ is planning to pick up:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835108105
Mike is back! - (maccerm) - haven't heard from you for about a year since our lovely gecube days! I see you're over with the green guys on your 8800 - what kind of 3dmark6 scores are you getting these days!
Well that's interesting, Rob, how some memory doesn't seem to work with some mobos. I know over on the graphics thread, estuansis loves his mushkins, and some of the newegg reviews were also really raving about them. "Luck of the draw." Hmmmm. So what's the best way to test the mem out quick while you can still RMA it back to newegg - run some of the mem stress tests overnight? Or is that not relevant, because that won't tell you how they will perform in overclocking situations?
-Rich
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MaccerM
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22. November 2008 @ 07:55 |
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Hi harv. Still not upgraded from your P4 then!? You'll be there for years I swear! Just about to buy an i7 then you'll hear about the next big thing! lol.
I'm getting about 15k on 3dmark (15,183 my best so far) and am able to play Crysis in VHQ with 2xAA at 1280x1024 with the GTs in SLi. Want a E8400 for 4Ghz+ and a new 1650x1080 monitor now.
- On that point what is this talk about having a quad core for multi gpu setups? From my current understanding I'll be better off for gaming with a fast dual core (for the next 12 months perhaps.) Is someone recommending using a quad with SLi?
Q9550 @ 3.4Ghz-1.275v & TRUE, Asus P5N-T Deluxe, 4Gb Dominator 1066 (5-5-5-15), Inno3d OC 8800GTs in SLi with TT Duorbs, 580w 5.1 Setup, 2x DVD-RAM, 320&160Gb SATA2 HDDs, 17" 3ms Hyundai TFT, 700w Jeantech PSU.
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22. November 2008 @ 11:12 |
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Dual cores are better for single graphics cards, quads are better for dual graphics. It's something along these lines:
HD4870 with Dual core: 30fps, HD4870 with Quad core; 32fps
HD4870X2 with Dual core: 35fps, HD4870X2 with Quad core: 55fps
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22. November 2008 @ 11:27 |
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The 3870 does better then a 4870?
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22. November 2008 @ 11:37 |
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Lol whoops...
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MaccerM
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26. November 2008 @ 11:39 |
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So what are you saying? A quad core is better with dual GPUs clock for clock, with xfire only, with a dual gpu card only, better than a faster clocked dual core?
Surely if you have a 4-4.5Ghz E8x00 you are still going to get faster fps in 90% of games than with a 3-3.5Ghz clocked quad and a dual card setup.
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26. November 2008 @ 11:58 |
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Surely if you have a 4-4.5Ghz E8x00 you are still going to get faster fps in 90% of games than with a 3-3.5Ghz clocked quad and a dual card setup.
That's true for most games for now but newer games are coming out optimized for Quad cores and will continue to do so since it allows for creative graphics designs that could bury a dual core. If you want to be future proof for a while longer than I recommend going quad core for any current build. The best of both worlds of course is if your quad core can match a dual core on any given two cores. What do you think about a Q9650 at 4Ghz?
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26. November 2008 @ 12:34 |
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I'll be honest, I haven't seen much in the way of real world gains with quad cores using single cards yet. It'll happen, but we've been saying this for years...
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