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haskins69
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10. March 2009 @ 13:22 |
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I need some help I've made it to 3.82Ghz with these settings
o'clocking E6850 on striker II formula
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memory - unlinked
Internal Thermal Control - Disabled
Lim CPUID Max Value - Disabled
Enhanced C1 - Disabled
CPU C State - Disabled
Execute Disable Bit - Disabled
Virtualisation Technology -Disabled
CPU Multiplier - 9.0
Enhanced Speedstep - Disabled
LDT Frequency - 5x
trrd - auto
trc - 22
twr - auto
twtr - auto
tref - auto
trd - autotrfc - 54
CPU Volt - 1.425 for a start /1.432 got me to 3.82 Ghz
CPU PLL -1.60-1.66-1.68
CPU VTT - 1.30.1.40
Mem V - 2.20
NB V - 1.52
SB V - 1.60
1.2v HT V - 1.40 -1.45
Bridge - auto
DDR cont - Auto
DDR Chan A - ref
DDR Chan B - ref
CPU GTL Ref - +30mV
NB GTL Ref - +30mV
Cpu Level up - auto
Ai Overclock - manual
Loadline Calibration - Enabled
SLI Mem - Disabled
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here's my spec's
Spec's:
Coolermasrer Stacker 830
Tagen 1100watt
Striker II Formula w/Bios 2001
E6850 @3.0Ghz
2GB corsaire value select 800mhz pc2 6400
evga 8800GTS 320mb superclocked / slightly overclocked beyound the way it came stock 576/850/1350 now 623/925/1460
Asetek Liquid CPU Cooling System
Vista ultimate 32 bit
I made it to 3.82Ghz with vcore at 1.43
whenI tried to go to 3.87Ghz/1720mhz fsb
it folded and BSOD so I reset Bios ansd waited till some one who knows more than me could help me [I know basicly nothing] but I learn best by doing
I was a aviation electronics tech in the Navy and Have wired houses for 20+ yr's so I'm not dumb and I know most of the terminalogy I"m just not sure as to what to change to get it to 4.0Ghz STABLE
any help would be great
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11. March 2009 @ 04:38 |
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Hehe, a Striker II Formula. I'd take it easy on the overclocking to be honest, the Striker II is widely recognised as one of the top 5 most unreliable motherboards ever made.
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haskins69
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11. March 2009 @ 12:38 |
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you don't have to laugh at me
and yeah your not telling me nothing I don't know I bought my system from cyberpower 1yr 6months ago with a striker extreme in it after 5 of those gem's in 8 month's
cyberpower upgraded[if you can call it that] me to this gem
the first one ran 48 hours's , I'm on my third one now just replaced it again 10 day's ago
never overclocked before this one
this one has the newest BIOS 2001 although I had to flash It my self since ASUS said they would but .....UHHH.... forgot
this one runs very good , temp's are really low [ 27-29 C] even @3.82GHz they only rose by 1-2 degree's after 2 Hr
point is I know I got a pretty paper weight it's just a matter of time as history has shown me with the Striker series
so I just figured I've got it running and while it's running I may as well learn a little and use it as intended before it shit's it self again and before warranty run's out and I can't RMA it
see so far 8 motherboards and the only one I paid for was the first and I still have 2 more years of warranty
and of course my time , labor and headaches
so if I'm gonna screw it up now would be the time
so If you can help a old fat man
I don't want to run it at 4.0Ghz for ever I really just want to know if I can get it there and how to do it kinda a learning experiance
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11. March 2009 @ 13:08 |
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WOW! I keep hearing alot of bad things about ASUS! I dont think i'll be buying their products again! Sorry about off topic :(
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11. March 2009 @ 13:31 |
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Oh wow, welcome back, I remember our conversations... Sorry to be so dismissive, on the back of your experiences you can understand my caution. Generally, if you want to push further, CPU Vcore increase, memory multiplier adjustment and Northbridge voltage (MCH) increase are the only things you need to consider with a standard 65nm dual core.
Omegaman, to be fair, while Asus did make the worst job of a 780i board, the main problem is the 780i chipset itself, which is the worst chipset ever made, notorious for unreliability and even data corruption, and it also uses more power than a Core 2 Duo E6850 (when you haven't overclocked it, that is) - yes that's right, the board uses more power than the processor!
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11. March 2009 @ 13:35 |
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Originally posted by haskins69:
you don't have to laugh at me
and yeah your not telling me nothing I don't know I bought my system from cyberpower 1yr 6months ago with a striker extreme in it after 5 of those gem's in 8 month's
cyberpower upgraded[if you can call it that] me to this gem
the first one ran 48 hours's , I'm on my third one now just replaced it again 10 day's ago
this one has the newest BIOS although I had to flash It my self since ASUS said they would but .....UHHH.... forgot
this one runs very good , temp's are really low [ 27-29 C] even @3.82GHz they only rose by 1-2 degree's after 2 Hr
point is I know I got a pretty paper weight it's just a matter of time as history has shown me with the Striker series
so I just figured I've got it running and while it's running I may as well learn a little and use it as intended before it shit's it self again and before warranty run's out and I can't RMA it
see so far 8 motherboards and the only one I paid for was the first and I still have 2 more years of warranty
and of course my time , labor and headaches
so if I'm gonna screw it up now would be the time
so If you can help a old fat man
I don't want to run it at 4.0Ghz for ever I really just want to know if I can get it there and how to do it kinda a learning experiance
haskins69,
Don't get caught up in that 4.0GHz thing. I let myself do it (Ego) and hurt my E6750 in the process. It took almost a year for the E6750 to completely die, as I had to keep increasing the voltage every month or so, until I finally got to 1.49v. Even then, when it did die, it didn't just stop working, but it starting corrupting files and other strange things, until it finally refused to work at all! I tried re-installing XP-Pro, but got error messages saying that the files were corrupt! I lost fully half of what I had on the computer. Thankfully I had a backup of all my programs. If it runs good at 3.8GHz, I wouldn't push the issue, especially on that particular motherboard. Just some advice from an Older Skinny Guy! LOL!!
Best Regards,
Russ
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11. March 2009 @ 13:37 |
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Something you might find funny, the highest I can get my Q9550 to is 3.95Ghz...
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11. March 2009 @ 13:39 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Omegaman, to be fair, while Asus did make the worst job of a 780i board, the main problem is the 780i chipset itself, which is the worst chipset ever made, notorious for unreliability and even data corruption, and it also uses more power than a Core 2 Duo E6850 (when you haven't overclocked it, that is) - yes that's right, the board uses more power than the processor!
Their hardware is generally fine. Their customer service is what ive heard a lot of negativity about :(
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11. March 2009 @ 13:44 |
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Their customer service is dire, though Gigabyte's is far from exemplary. However, the overall build quality of Asus boards scales with price. The top end Asus boards (excluding the Strikers) are usually pretty good. Their cheaper ones though are absolutely dreadful. Other companies like MSI and Gigabyte in particular build even their cheapest boards properly. I've a lot of respect for the £25 MSI boards that last for years, unless you spend more than £100 you'll be lucky to get an Asus board to last the 12 month warranty.
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haskins69
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11. March 2009 @ 14:00 |
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thank's for the reply's folk's I was beggining to that this motherboard was making me unpopular too........
sammorris
can you explain memory multiplier ?
I'm assuming if memory is unlinked that it doesn't affect the outcome
vcore and north bridge I under stand
I only upped the vcore one setting 1.43v [it start's at 1.425v] [If I remember right] to get to 3.82Ghz
northbridge I set to 1.52v but I don't remember how much a increase that was not much I'm sure
ASUS tech said leave it Auto
I got to 3.82Ghz so easy I really thought 4.0Ghz would just be a setting or so I was missing or some thing
I just didn't want to push it till I had heard from others about it I posted here
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/show...=175399&page=59
a striker II formula overclocking forum and those people won't even answer , it's like they got a secret that they won't share
but many have made it to 4.0Ghz with 2.66 Ghz CPU's so I thought going there with a 3.0Ghz CPU should be easier , hell some of them are hitting 4.4-4.6Ghz with 2.66Ghz CPU's [ I read all 59 pages of forum]
and no right now I don't want to keep it there I just want to learn and do it then sett it back to stock hell 3.0Ghz is plenty fast for the games and programs I use
and power and heat this thing uses and creates well your right on old one at least this one is much cooler running but of course power consumption is still high
could some one look at the settings I used to get to 3.82Ghz and give me a hint ?
so I don't smoke some thing
I was easing it up in 5MHz increment's IE: @3.82Ghz=425/1700 FSB
3.87Ghz= 430/1720 FSB this is where it folded with vcore at 1.43v
I have lot's ofroom to go higher just didn't want to try till I asked
original time it took less than a hr to get to 3.82Ghz of course I didn't run prime95 every time I went up 5Mhz
any help would be well recieved
as far as ASUS product's go In my opinion they seem ok unless the name begins with "STRIKER" and service I've heard suck's but they were helpfull and worked well with me on this matter the last RMA is the only dealings I've had with them the other 7........LOL...were RMA'ed though Cyberpower
thank's folk's
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11. March 2009 @ 14:38 |
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Wow guys! I cant see the need in overclocking this phenom II! Its faster than BEEEEEEEEEEEEEP! I cant imagine i7 being quicker! NO, that was not a fanboy comment. Infact, eventually I wouldnt mind trying my hand one more time at intels best. Ok, perhaps I can IMAGINE! But I certainly dont see the need! Perhaps though, after a little more acclamation, I can engage in my own testing. :D <-----Thoroughly Impressed!
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11. March 2009 @ 14:44 |
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4.4-4.6Ghz on that CPU is exceptionally difficult, the reason why most people don't tell how they achieved results is because they didn't actually achieve them in the first place.
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haskins69
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11. March 2009 @ 14:58 |
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I'm not asking how they got to 4.4-4.6 and I don't really care it's just they start at either 2.4or 2.6 and get that far I figure to go from 3.0 to 4.0 should be well not easy but much easier than going from 2.6 to 4.4
right?
and your probaly right maybe they are just talking shit !!!
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11. March 2009 @ 15:19 |
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With a good board, 4Ghz from an E6850 shouldn't be too difficult, but you need good RAM. With your board though, I'm not sure.
The normal front side bus speed of the E6850 is 333 (Core 2s use a 4x Bus multiplier to achieve 1333mhz actual bus speed, but this is irrelevant here).
Thus, at normal speed, if you have 800mhz memory, you need to use a multiplier of no more than 2.4x. (333x2.4 = 800). If you have 1066mhz memory, you need a multiplier of no more than 3.2x.
When you overclock the processor, you increase the bus speed, however. To reach 4Ghz you change the bus speed to 444. Since the minimum memory multiplier is 2x, if you only have 800mhz (PC6400) RAM, you are unlikely to succeed, as your RAM is being overclocked by 11% to reach that speed.
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haskins69
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11. March 2009 @ 15:34 |
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memory is unlinked !!!
and to hit 3.82GHz my FSB was at425/1700
so your either not seeing the unlinked or I'm missunderstanding what it means
and the fact that I made it to 3.82GHz with DDR-2 800mhz was more luck that ablity
right ?
by the way as soon as I have the money I'm getting 1066Mhz ram
just a shame to put more money into a board that destine to die soon .........LOL
and when I upgrade it I'm going with DDR-3 motherboard
hopefully a core i7 board
or if it's a while [probaly will be] what ever the next great thing coming down the road is
but I'm a Intel man [ sorry AMD people] so that's where I'll stay unless AMD does something really great which is unlikely Intel has too much of a lead right now
w/ 1066MHz ram using you formula 3.2 x445 [what it takes to reach 4.05Ghz] that calculates to I need 1424 Ram speed
seems impossible fastest DDR-2 on newegg is 1200MHz
which probaly won't work on this RAM picky prick !!
and isn't 1066Mhz ram just overclocked 800Mhz ram ?
I read that some where don't ask where I'm on this box 12-16 hr's a day
and I'm not on porn sites but usually trying to learn so I can help myself , friends and people who will pay me !!!
Just re-read your post what's the stock memory multiplier ?
2.4x ?
I ask because unlinked I did hit 3.82 so I was thinking if I go in and and set multiplier to min. 2x and it is less than the unlinked speed then maybe I can get there or at least closer in 5 Mhz jumps that's 4 jumps that may at least get me to 3.915Ghz = 435/1740 with this Ram
Damn corsaire Dominator 1066Mhz 2x2Gb is $89.00-$117.00 with fan kit
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11. March 2009 @ 16:15 |
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Unlinked memory is no magic bullet, it can't push beyond what fixed multiplier boards can achieve. If you do only have PC6400 I strongly recommend you change it to reach 4Ghz.
There's no real reason to go DDR3, it doesn't offer any advantages, it's just unfortunately mandatory to use i7 - the difference between i7 and Core 2 Quad still isn't very much though, especially as far as games are concerned.
As of now though, you are right, Intel are still way ahead of AMD.
You don't need to use 3.2x multiplier at 445, that's just what you CAN use to get 1066mhz at default 333. You lower the multiplier when you raise the bus speed to achieve the same memory speed.
It is true that 1066mhz RAM is just overclocked 800mhz memory, however, it is subject to stringent testing. I have yet to hear of any stick of RAM advertised as PC6400 that has been able to reach PC8500 speeds through overclocking.
The memory multiplier is automatically set to whatever keeps your memory at its correct speed, since your RAM is 800mhz, it'll be 2.4x at 333. When overclocked, as far as I'm aware, 'unlinked' memory does not sink below 2.0x, so you'll probably be at that, and 425FSB means your RAM will be at 850mhz, which most good PC6400 can achieve.
You don't need the fans with the dominator memory, they run plenty cool enough as it is.
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haskins69
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11. March 2009 @ 16:30 |
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thank's sammorris
now I'm finally getting the answers I need
I guess it partly how I word the question and after asking about this ..OH about 100X on other forums I finally got it right
thank's I'll try and find the money to get the 1066 Mhz Ram
one more question how stable and hard to use are faster DDR-2 rams ...say well let go for broke 1200 Mhz?
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11. March 2009 @ 16:32 |
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You can buy 1200mhz stuff if you like, but it's not always guaranteed to work with every board, and realistically, there's not much to gain with using it over 1066mhz RAM unless you have a very high bus speed CPU, or are going for a huge overclock (only really applicable to the E8500/E8600, and the QX9770)
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haskins69
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11. March 2009 @ 16:36 |
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cool Ok I under stand it would be a waste of money and cause trouble I don't need since I'm only trying to get there not stay there
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haskins69
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12. March 2009 @ 10:16 |
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Ok I sat around last night and had some thought's which I believe were confirmed by anouther person on "tom's hardware"
so here you go:
I thought if you up voltage to CPU to overclock it [giving it more power to go faster] and if you have to raise voltage on memory to install 1066Mhz ram [usualy from1.8v to 2.1 v for 1066 ] which gives it power to go faster
then if I turn down multiplier and raise the voltage to memory then I should be able to get some more out of it
maybe not 4.0Ghz but I was hoping to hit maybe 3.91Ghz 435/1740 FSb or 3.96Ghz 440/1760 FSB
please check my thinking and let me know
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12. March 2009 @ 12:12 |
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Raising the memory voltage will help how far the memory can be overclocked, but nothing more. Raising the CPU voltage is a critical part of overclocking and I'm surprised if you haven't needed it so far.
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haskins69
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12. March 2009 @ 15:09 |
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I did but not much only from 1.425v to 1.43 v
I'm probaly gonna try the memory ratio @ 2x which would be 2x 445FSB =890 memory speed or 4.05Ghz CPU
which with value select [cheap] memory might not be possible
but it's worth a try
and if my memory is the issue becaus it's to slow and if raising my FSB will overclock memory also
doesn't it make since to up voltage on memory?
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12. March 2009 @ 16:20 |
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Yes it does, but RAM won't take kindly to much of a voltage increase and it does not jump hugely in overclock performance from extra voltage, it certainly won't hurt though.
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12. March 2009 @ 16:51 |
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OK thank's again
I got some real life stuff [non-computer] to do so I won't try for a week or so but I'll get back to you when I do
thank's again
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Just poppin' in to see where everybody's at on the overclocking relm of things. Who's OC'n 45nm LGA775's and who;s moved on to current LGA1366 OC'n on the hot new X58? I love it so far.
I am still around but I will keep my "Two cents" on the side lines to the long term popular and regulars.
Have fun guys and overclock them mother boards till it "HertZ"! Lol!
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