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15. March 2009 @ 18:47 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Russ,
In the future, you need to say, Hey stupid! Think about what I just said!!! LOL. Maybe not that harsh LOL. When you said:
Originally posted by theonejrs:
Sounds like the CPU temperature sensor is getting stuck at a real low temperature and then jumping up to more real temps as it gets warmer
I must have not acknowledged that statement enough to really comprehend it. Because now I believe I understand what you mean exactly. Provided of course you believe that my Higher temps under load are at least VERY close to what it should be!
Actually room/environment temps affect your cpu temps greatly. I once had my windows open when it was 50-60F and my cpu temps dropped 10C
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15. March 2009 @ 19:03 |
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Thanks once again for your patience :) So I guess i'll never be able to hold to much stock in the idle temps. Probably shouldnt trust the load temps either. You know...I dont know why im disappointed! 3.5 GHZ is pretty awesome. My encodes are super fast, windows experience is pretty smooth. Until I can trust a water cooling method, i'll be content with my current config. That is til its 100+ degrees outside LOL. I live in a semi-arid area (nearly desert like terrain) so I might consider dropping the clock and Vcore down, when that happens. Depending on the Air conditioning unit!
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19. March 2009 @ 15:39 |
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I gotta ask this one more time. If a processor is in distress, how is it that error testing would yield useful information. What I mean is, what if its producing errors, but not telling you of those errors, BECAUSE its in distress! I hope this explains my concerns LOL.
Here is my concern, I have a LARGE beyond LARGE job coming up, and I wanna be certain, that errors are not produced. I have Well over 200GB of .VOB files that I want to compress to Divx. Probably about 82% space savings. A much needed conversion im sure you'll agree LOL. Oh and what the heck, if you can think of a better conversion means, E.G. Xvid, im all ears. But ive heard that Divx and Xvid are just about, if not equal. Infact, if im not mistaken, you pay for divx, you dont for xvid. If im mistaken, please correct me.
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19. March 2009 @ 15:49 |
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What's so concerning about the 200GB of Vob's ?. I rip a dozen or so DVD's to hard drive every week or so in order to use AutoGK (in Xvid mode) to convert them to 1400MB AVI's. (The end result is certainly not to eventually convert ALL my films, i just like to have as many AVI's on a hard disk somewhere so i don't have to go searching for DVD's when i just want to coach out and watch a movie over one of the xboxes).
I just skim thru each converted AVI a little to check for potential sync errors then purge the ripped DVD files. If there's a problem with an AVI it can just be converted again later..
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19. March 2009 @ 16:04 |
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I dont have an AWESOME amount of disk space though! Believe me, I wouldnt mind a Petabyte(1,000TB)! Thats just not practical at this time LOL. Heck, 20TB isnt even practical at this time. Dvd's are the cheapest medium. I usually pick up my verbs for .15cents average at officemax! Im simply concerned about an overclock introducing even minor hiccups where it wouldnt at its normal clock speed.
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19. March 2009 @ 16:08 |
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I see. Hadn't originally noticed that i was replying in the OC thread, doh! :p
..so...
1) Buy more disk space (it's rude not to!)
2) Am sure the OC guys will be able to check out your settings.
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19. March 2009 @ 16:11 |
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Originally posted by creaky:
Buy more disk space (it's rude not to!)
Believe me, I FULLY intend to :D
Infact, im somewhat of a HDD packrat! I am due for a new drive LOL
Probably make it a Raptor!!!
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19. March 2009 @ 19:43 |
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I've finally gotten around to giving the AMD Overdrive a good test. My plan was to set it to stock speed and then overclock it with overdrive, which I did. The only thing I set in the bios is the memory voltage, to 2.1v. Using the Overdrive, I set it to 3.2GHz and Overdrive determined that it needed 1.44v, so I set the CPU voltage to 1.45v for a little extra cushion, and set the ACC to Auto. It now runs the same speed (3.2GHz) on less volts, and runs cooler. I had already changed the lower side fan to exhaust to remove most of the heat from the 9500-GT, since it's heat is discharged inside the case. That seems to work nicely!
Here's the results, and I've marked the correct positions for the CPU Temp, NB Temp, System Temp and the memory voltage. 1.44v sounds better to me than 1.47v, and the NB runs much cooler!
I'm happy with it!
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19. March 2009 @ 19:52 |
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Heh, 1448rpm on the PSU. Coolermaster through and through... <Yuck>
Even my Earthwatts tops out at 1350 and that's only an 80mm fan.
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19. March 2009 @ 20:24 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Heh, 1448rpm on the PSU. Coolermaster through and through... <Yuck>
Even my Earthwatts tops out at 1350 and that's only an 80mm fan.
Sam,
LOL!! I have the 80MM Silverstone plugged into that header on the MB. I adjusted it last night to 1450 RPM when I turned the lower side fan around. So far the PSU is dead silent and extremely stable with it's voltages! Even with two more fans than I had in my old case, for a total of 5, the computer is still quiet by my standards. Two of the case fans are 120mm, 33CFM, 1200 RPM fans, with the rear Silverstone being 56 CFM, 1200 RPM. The Kama Bay Fan is 800 RPM, 30 CFM and I can set the silverstone to whatever I want. 1450 seems to work the best! Seems to work pretty well in the cooling department too!
Russ
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20. March 2009 @ 07:44 |
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Ah right, that makes more sense. I wonder what the threshold is for the coolermaster PSUs before they start ramping up. Obviously without much of a graphics card drawing power your system won't be pulling very much load off the unit, but I would have thought it'd be enough to make the older coolermaster PSUs go mad with noise. Presumably the inbuilt ones are different in that regard. Either way though, as we've previously discussed, a PC with a 1200rpm 120mm fan in it of any kind, let alone an FM121 which is more like a 1400rpm of any other variety, is at best 'very quiet'. Dead silent is very misleading.
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20. March 2009 @ 17:52 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Ah right, that makes more sense. I wonder what the threshold is for the coolermaster PSUs before they start ramping up. Obviously without much of a graphics card drawing power your system won't be pulling very much load off the unit, but I would have thought it'd be enough to make the older coolermaster PSUs go mad with noise. Presumably the inbuilt ones are different in that regard. Either way though, as we've previously discussed, a PC with a 1200rpm 120mm fan in it of any kind, let alone an FM121 which is more like a 1400rpm of any other variety, is at best 'very quiet'. Dead silent is very misleading.
Sam,
I had been told beforehand that the CM's were noisy, and I was very surprised that the case came with the newer style PSU that has a 120mm fan on the bottom. I sold the 460w one and replaced it with a 500w CM model of the same design. Both were extraordinarily quiet! The only thing that seems to make any real noise at all, is the new video card, at startup. It runs full tilt until the software loads, and then runs much quieter. The rear 120mm Silverstone is a fixed RPM fan that runs at 1200 RPM and moves 56 CFM of air. I have it plugged into the Sysfan1, with it's control turned off in the bios, so it gets straight 12v. You can hear air moving, but you get no mechanical noise at all. No whines or annoying sounds. The only thing that "ramps up" is the video card. I was playing FC2 on it for a couple of hours and once in a while you could hear it's fan speed up, but nowhere near the noise at startup! I can make it run quieter, but the penalty for doing that is more heat, and that's not acceptable to me! I'll trade a little noise for better cooling anytime! Noise doesn't hurt the longevity of the components, heat does, and it's effects are cumulative. Besides the noise I do get is not annoying in any way, at least not to me!
I'm going to continue to use the AMD Overdrive to overclock it as it takes a lot less voltage for the CPU at the same speed as before, and it runs much cooler too!
Russ
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20. March 2009 @ 19:34 |
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It's the 120mm CMs that are noisy, the 80mm ones are alright.
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20. March 2009 @ 20:05 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
It's the 120mm CMs that are noisy, the 80mm ones are alright.
Sam,
The one I have is as quiet or maybe even quieter than the Thermaltake I had in my E6750. It's got a 120mm fan on the bottom and is near dead silent, whether it's Encoding, running Orthos or gaming! I played FC2 the other night for about 2 hours, with all the settings on Max except AA which I had set to 2x. The mouse was a little sluggish, but it played very well. All the action looked great, and the detail was awesome, with very little noise from the console! The Dolby Surround is amazing! With the F/O S/PDIF connection, it's superb!
Here's the PSU! I'm very impressed with what it gives you for so little money! If you can't afford much, it's a good choice!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171031
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Russ
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20. March 2009 @ 20:37 |
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20. March 2009 @ 21:25 |
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Hello Again everyone.
Ok so im going crazy in regards to my temps. I have the thermaltake armor case. I have 2 92mm fans exhaust. 1 120mm Exhaust. 2 120mm intake. 1 120mm on cpu. Meshed front panels and meshed above the psu/cpu. these are the fans currently installed in the case.
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These are my current temps once again with my room temp being 72f
Now im thinking of getting this case you thoughts please
coolermaster haf 932
also am i just over reacting with these temps or should i do something about them.
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20. March 2009 @ 22:30 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
The lack of two 6-pins is a telltale sign it's not a 500W unit though. Electrically it's no better than the Corsairs which aren't much more expensive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...7139008
Sam,
I have no idea of the significance of two PCI-E plugs, but it is 500W. it's just rated at 70% efficiency! The Corsair is about $15 more for 400w @80%, which is fine if you have it. Real tough to spend money you don't have! When you have to count pennies from time to time, the one dollar bill has a lot of significance. 15 of them is a good couple of meals right now! For now, I'll keep what I have and be glad that I've got it!
Russ
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21. March 2009 @ 06:10 |
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Those temps are fine enough. Going to a HAF from an Armor won't see huge benefits.
Russ: The 70% efficiency also tells you something. I bet you anything you like a system that draws even as much as 400W off that PSU isn't stable. No matter how you spin it, that PSU is borderline territory with the AOpens of the world. Pennies or no pennies the most important part not to skimp on in a PC is the PSU. I'm merely stating that others should not follow in your footsteps in this regard, because not everyone uses a PC that draws less than 130W at full load.
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21. March 2009 @ 06:24 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Those temps are fine enough. Going to a HAF from an Armor won't see huge benefits.
Russ: The 70% efficiency also tells you something. I bet you anything you like a system that draws even as much as 400W off that PSU isn't stable. No matter how you spin it, that PSU is borderline territory with the AOpens of the world. Pennies or no pennies the most important part not to skimp on in a PC is the PSU. I'm merely stating that others should not follow in your footsteps in this regard, because not everyone uses a PC that draws less than 130W at full load.
I think my brother would be one of the few, that will never put their PSU to the ultimate test LOL. He browses, youtubes, emails! Nothing more! He has a PS2 for his gaming needs. Though he is now itching for the PS3. I wonder if I now have too much PSU! Probably not, once I get the 4870! I get that badboy, I'll be on cloud nine! Though in a few weeks, who knows. There may be the 5000 series released LOL!
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21. March 2009 @ 06:27 |
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Want a cheap 4870? I have one to sell... lmao
Dunno how much international postage'd be though...
Actually given the exchange rate it'd probably be a fortune for you.
By the way, the PS3 uses more power than Russ' PC does...
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I honestly dont think about power usage when it comes to buying peripherals, electronic equipment, etc. I can however understand the Governments desire to design GREEN devices for the masses! I should run some mathematical analysis today with my P3 KillaWatt! It might just prove me wrong when I say, "a couple of green devices only save me a couple dollars a month!"
Yah, im sure the postage from overseas would be extreme LOL! Thanks for the thought though :)
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21. March 2009 @ 18:24 |
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Thanks for the info Sammoris,
I started messing with my fan speeds and on the speeds of my video card fans. I have all my case fans and cpu fans at full speed. Not to worry about noise these fans are nearly silent even at full speed. Then my vid cards fans. After tweaking it all i got to drop my temps a bit. Core temps now read 39-40 my cpu temp is at 30-31 and my mobo temp is at 37. One thing i find weird with my crossfire setup is that the top video card runs cooler than the bottom one. I would have though that the top one would run hotter since that fan is pulling air of the bottom vid but watever it works.
Now about cases the HAf 932 is a nice case it has 3 230mm fan and 1 140mm fan still thinking about it. Since i plan on building a media pc i might buy that case and use the armor case as my media center. Been looking at the reviews and test with the HAF it does a real good job and nearly silent with the stock set-up. Unlike my armor case which i replaced all the fans in it.
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21. March 2009 @ 20:44 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Those temps are fine enough. Going to a HAF from an Armor won't see huge benefits.
Russ: The 70% efficiency also tells you something. I bet you anything you like a system that draws even as much as 400W off that PSU isn't stable. No matter how you spin it, that PSU is borderline territory with the AOpens of the world. Pennies or no pennies the most important part not to skimp on in a PC is the PSU. I'm merely stating that others should not follow in your footsteps in this regard, because not everyone uses a PC that draws less than 130W at full load.
Sam,
And that's exactly my point! The 400w corsair would be in the same boat trying to draw the full 400w. You can't put the Cooler Master in the same catagory as the "AOpen's" of the world! The AOpen's quality isn't even close to the CM, and they are far less stable with their voltages, even at idle! The AOpen's have minimal heat sinks, shirt cardboard thin, while the CM's heat sinks are pretty hefty and made out of solid aluminum. You couldn't pay me to use an AOpen, not even if I got it for free!
My system draws a lot more than 130w at full load, in fact you've mentioned much higher wattages than 130w for it in the recent past when discussing CPU coolers. You also pointed out that the 9500-GT would draw even more power.
I'm not saying that the 500w CM is a great PSU, but it is a significantly better one than any AOpen, PowMax or CoolMax! I did a lot of research before I decided to buy the CM R-354 case with the PSU, and discovered that the 460w unit that came with the case, was a darn good PSU. The 500w CM I replaced it with, is just more of the same. Basically, I did just as I tell people on a tight budget on the forum. I determined my needs, and bought the best PSU that I could afford. What I got was a well built, quality PSU at a very good price, that meets my needs. Even if I decide to eventually put an HD-4850 in it, there's still more than enough stable power available! Obviously if I wanted to put two 4850's in CrossFire, I would need a bigger PSU!
So don't be selling the CM so short! It's a better than decent quality, no frills PSU, with superb voltage regulation that doesn't scrimp on the basics. Far superior to any of the cheapies out there, and has turned out to be an excellent choice for me or for anyone wanting to do a budget build that isn't going to go crazy with the video cards, or looking to build a high end Quad. At $42.89 with free shipping, it's an outstanding buy. Far better than it's price would indicate, and I highly recommend it to anyone who's needs it fits, that's on a budget!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171031
Best Regards,
Russ
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21. March 2009 @ 21:28 |
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Russ,
Looks like a decent supply to me :)
Yah, I have a coolmax under my desk I WAS certain is fried, but now im not certain. Its a 400W rated PSU, but looking at the minimal connections coming out, im like no way! I may have demanded too much from it right off the bat, and thats why it didnt fire up the system it was in! Needless to say, I wont be buying one from them anymore. I emailed coolmax, and it took a week for them to get back to me. And for an 18$ dollar supply, I wasnt gonna ship it back to them!!! The reason its hanging around is, im a packrat! I dont believe in throwing things out. I wanted the fan, and havnt removed it yet. But now im wondering if I simply asked too much of it! Gonna have to hook it up to a lesser system and find out :) Could be a good spare...
My MSI barebone on boot up was showing 200W from my P3 killawatt! Im sure now its closer to 300, and when I get the new vid card...oh boy oh boy! I try and keep the wattage usage around half. Because then I KNOW its not getting too hot! 50% seems like a good round number!
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are their any programmers around? Cause I feel the possibility for something, but im still sooooo green, I make the hulk look like something else LOL. See...Dr. divx ive noticed uses no more than 25-40% of my CPU. Divx 7 converter uses an average of 55-65% now...if softwares are programmed to go buy a percentage or something along those lines, would it not be possible to trick either windows(probably not a good idea), or software into believing that its just one SUPER cpu core(14Ghz), or perhaps better. A plugin for windows allowing to manipulate individual programs in such a way that it believes your processor to be what ever you specify to utilize the FULL potential!!! Any thoughts on this. Please dont laugh at me too hard LOL
Simply put, they need to Soup up the Task manager BADLY
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