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IMPORTANT NOTICE - BAD MEDIA - UK
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24. April 2004 @ 18:39 |
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Just emphasising on the clarification of flash (flashmans) integrity. He has been testing DVD's and creating modifying firmwares for a long time now an dhis opinions are results are trusted by almost all. If he says a disc (or batch) is poor/good/excellent, then it most likely is that...
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David88
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11. May 2004 @ 13:27 |
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Recently I notice some new disk came to the market. One of them is Piodata which claims to be made by Pioneer by Ritek. I bought a cake and found OK. Anyone had experience on this brand?
Tommy Boy
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11. May 2004 @ 15:34 |
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Its a Pioneer OEM manufactured disc. The OEM could be Ritek, but from what i've seen it is actually Taiyo-Yuden. I would expect them to be a high quality disc...
What you may find is that 4x media is Ritek G04 and 8x Media Taiyo Yuden...
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SCS+
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12. May 2004 @ 00:56 |
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I've just tired the Piodata, seem to be fine at the moment. They are Pioneer OEM Disks (www.piodata.com)
and they are Ritek brand. You can see from the website that it looks like a Pioneer website.
I have heard there are 3 different brands of Piodata and that the Ritek ones have a blue colour insert, the Gigastorage have a red colour insert and the Leaddata ones...well I dont think I wana know do you??? Always try to but the blue colour insert ones they are Ritek G04
This brand seems to be very popular in States, it seems as they have a lot of online sites who distribute them.
Has anyone heard of Data On disks??? I remember vaguely they were quite big in the CD market at one stage few years back. They seemed to disappear from the market for some time until now. Anyone know anything??? I have just bought some Data-On DVD's and are abt to use them.
I will keep you posted.
PIODATA 8X RITEK DISCS ARE THE BEST!!!
WWW.PIODATA.COM (BRAND NAME OF PIONEER)
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David88
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12. May 2004 @ 01:00 |
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Thanks for the clarification. I thought the packaging looks familiar. I feel easier knowing it a Pioneer. This means the quality will be constant and stable, and not like certain "Data***" brand which the quality keep changing.
Tommy Boy
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Benyang
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12. May 2004 @ 01:15 |
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Hello Guy,
Who can tell me the Ridisc brand is grade A or downgrade by Ritek? because the price is cheap compare with Ritek silver top. I have confuse of Ritek price now.
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12. May 2004 @ 03:08 |
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Just going back to the PioData. Are they 4x discs that you have, because i believe the 8x are now all Taiyo Yuden. It would be nice to know for sure. Has anyone received and 8x PioData that is a Ritek disc R03 or anything?
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SCS+
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12. May 2004 @ 06:21 |
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PioData is 4X I have got. The 8X I have heard is coming soon but told by a good source it is not stable enough so they dont want to promote it that much just yet. It is by Taiyo-Yuden I think but need to get it comfirmed like yourself Oriphus.
The Data-On discs are not bad too out of 100 I have 2 coasters so that aint bad to be honest with you.
PIODATA 8X RITEK DISCS ARE THE BEST!!!
WWW.PIODATA.COM (BRAND NAME OF PIONEER)
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chas0039
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12. May 2004 @ 18:03 |
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For what it is worth, I have spoken with Pioneer USA and they state clearly that they have nothing to do with Piodata and their discs. They also told me they are investigating.
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David88
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12. May 2004 @ 23:39 |
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To be honest, irrelevant whether they are Pioneer OEM or not, still the are damn good disks.
Tommy Boy
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13. May 2004 @ 02:08 |
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According to Pioneer Europe, they are manufactured OEM discs.
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chas0039
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13. May 2004 @ 15:55 |
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I would agree that the 8X are good, why not, they are Tayio Yuden. But the reputation of the 4x is close to land fill in more than one review I have read. I would not be suprised to see the 8X made by someone else in the future.
http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm
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Arfer
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28. May 2004 @ 13:47 |
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i use balkpaq 4X dvd-r all the time and get very few coasters
i only write at 2X i admit
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TerrificF
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1. June 2004 @ 10:03 |
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Top 4 DVD media manufacturers in the world: CMC, Ritek, Prodisc and Optodisc.
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TerrificF
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1. June 2004 @ 10:11 |
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CMC, Ritek & Prodisc focus mainly on OEM like Philips, TDK, Fujifilm, Sony, Imation, Memorexx...etc. Ritek also got its own brands as Ritek(A grade), Traxdata(A grade), Ridata(A grade), Arita(reprinted A, B & C grades), Landscape(D grade). All others just buy bulk DVD from great market and pack under house brands.
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TerrificF
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1. June 2004 @ 10:20 |
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Some players import very first few batches good quality media in order to build up good reputation on market. After that, they start to mix up good quality with low quality media. It is not a good idea to stick with a "brand" but a reliable "supplier". A relible supplier will recommend you a reliable brand.
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LeeFields
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1. June 2004 @ 12:53 |
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woo hoo, a hat and a balloon to that man. Finaly it makes sense ;)
The Phantom Baw Flinger stikes again! Wuh Ha Ha!!
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sideturn
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6. June 2004 @ 20:36 |
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would anyone here know of a site where i can order ritek orange dvd-r 4x in canada seems only uk can order thanks for any help
currently using sliver top ridata dvd-r 4x mostly skipps or freeze
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chas0039
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7. June 2004 @ 13:19 |
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sideturn
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8. June 2004 @ 19:55 |
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thanks for ur help i'll check it out
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NakedGeek
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9. June 2004 @ 20:41 |
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Wow, well this is interesting, I guess I should have stopped by here several months ago. Interesting to see some references to e-net in that lot. I have had a run in with them myself after they threatened me with legal action for warning people about poor quality datawrite red tops.
Nice to see someone else has actually spotted the link between dvd-recordable and datawrite/datasafe/e-net I had a recent run in with Flash (aka Flashman) who I have been made aware by one of his colleagues on another forum, is actually in e-net's back pocket.
Well here is some more juice for you then. I was recently contacted by a supplier in Taiwan who claim to be E-Net's supplier in the UK and they confirmed to me on the telephone that e-net are shipping in Grade C and Below Ritek disks and rebranding them as A Grade media.
I have also been told by several of e-nets large customers (businesses) that he has a Stamp Printer somewhere in glasgow where he overprints his C Grade stock.
Now all this is things I have been told, so obviously it may or may not be true, however, all fingers are pointing at e-net at the moment, and if something smells bad, it generally is.
I have started collecting a file on this company to hand over to the Department of Trade and Industry for investigation and as soon as I have written statements from the people who have given me this information, I will be handing it over.
I am new here, and wish I had come here much sooner, things could have been very interesting.
Paladine
[Edit] Incidentally, did anyone hear about Princo suing E-Net for £1.2M for using their dye illegally. I heard this from the same businesses that told me about his glasgow printing operation. I have seen some mention of Philips in this thread, I was not aware that Philips had sued E-Net although I do know about their Princo case.
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SCS+
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10. June 2004 @ 01:02 |
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Naked Geek, if and what you say is true about E-net then there is a big issue. Ritek Europe, I have heard has already made a complaint to headquaters in the far east to stop E-net bringing in Grade C and below. And that if they were to bring in Grade C and below it would be the same price as Grade A. So E-net would be shaft-ed up the back side (parden the pun if anyone understands).
It does look as if all grades of ritek dye is good but surely this is not good for the consumer. If I am buying a disk I rather it not come from E-net but there only a few guys out there that bring in the stock themselves (Mr Yang). I have not bought from Mr Yang yet as I have a good supplier already who has not let me down yet.
I have used alot of brands but lately Piodata have been good to me and the Data-Ons. Sumvision goldtop are very good not one coaster yet. I cant seem to get any Data-Ons now for a few weeks I dont know which company they have come from (ie who imported them) but I believe they use a TDK dye which is Cyanine dye.
The datawrite reds have been a problem so I have stopped using them as I said I will try all disks and hopefully stick to 1 to 2 brands until something goes wrong then I will change but so far so good.
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NakedGeek
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10. June 2004 @ 06:19 |
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SCS,
There are other people bringing media into the country but it is very difficult. I started my company last November and started trading in February after 9 months of research, testing and travelling to factories to find a good product. I managed to find a factory using a Singulus production (very good production line) and decided to give AN32 dye a go after getting excellent test results from all the samples.
Several of my customers posted my media to DVDrhelp.com's media list and one of their site admins decided to delete it from the list because the comments were too good (yes that is their official reason).
I spent the next month being accused of all sorts of things on their website. A bunch of my very loyal customer jumped in to try and defend me, and they basically got called liars. DVDrhelp.com managed to almost wipe out my business just like that. To this day they continue to remove my media from their media list everytime a customer adds it and their forums are a joke to be frank.
They refused to accept that the disks could be of any sort of high quality despite having never tried or tested the products and continued to slate both my company and my products (and continue to do so to this day).
Now the crazy thing is, I am in a position where I am being forced to change my products to ritek and prodisc metal azo dyes simply because of this BS on dvdrhelp.com.
I started my company to try and do something about the media situation in the UK (which has been bad for some time now thanks to e-net), and I have to face this sort of reaction from a bunch of people who have never even seen my product let alone tested it. It makes it very hard to sell media when a site like dvdrhelp.com openly attacks it at every opportunity despite feedback from genuine customers being excellent.
So it is sink or swim time, I am being forced to give up my principles so my company doesn't go bankrupt, so now 12 months after I started all the work, I really wish I had never bothered, since now I fight every day to try and keep my head above water. The sad thing is, my long term goal was to start a UK factory and I doubt this will be possible now.
Paladine
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funbobby
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10. June 2004 @ 07:29 |
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.....
AN32 Discs Sux The Big One!!!!
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NakedGeek
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10. June 2004 @ 07:47 |
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You can disagree as much as you like, you are one customer out of hundreds, if you had problems with my media why did you not take of advantage of the guarantee I offer?
No media works on every system, there are too many factors, that is why I offer a guarantee and to date no-one has felt the need to use it.
Why not just go back to dvdrhelp.com instead of contaminating this board with flames as well?
Paladine
[Edit] Incidentally the move to ritek/prodisc is nothing to do with quality, my media continues to outperform riteks on a regular basis, the decision is based purely on market demand.
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