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NakedGeek
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10. June 2004 @ 14:42 |
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No that will not be anything like sufficient. I do not believe you are a customer, if you are, give up your name in private message so I can confirm it. There are several scans dotted around the web that you could just download.
If you are a customer, prove you are a customer. Then if you are a customer, perhaps you could take the time to explain why you never contacted me about problems, why you never took advantage of the guarantee?
You want to sit here making comments without backing it up. If you had a problem with an order, how am I supposed to fix it, or prevent it happening again in the future, if you don't tell me about it?
I react to feedback in a very positive way. The first shipment of disks I brought in had some cosmetic issues caused by the stamper. As soon as the customer pointed it out to me, I was in a video conference with the factory getting the problem fixed. They replaced the stamper and the cosmetic flaw is no more. If you are not willing to tell me when something is wrong, I cannot fix it. When people do tell me something is wrong, I do fix it.
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10. June 2004 @ 14:53 |
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10. June 2004 @ 14:55 |
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The only way I believe you are a customer, is if you give me your details. The more you refuse, the more I disbelive you are genuine. And you still failed to answer my other questions.
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10. June 2004 @ 15:24 |
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Posted by NakedGeek "the an32 disks I use are produced on one of the top of the range production lines in the world. Singulus are regarded as one of the top companies in the world in their field." As has been stated earlier in this thread by Dave22, the AN31/32 dyes are considered to be average at best & the notion that the worlds best production line can turn an average dye into a worldbeater is hard to believe surely.
It's like saying that using the best paint & materials will turn a bad decorator into a good one, using the best tools will turn a bad car mechanic into a good one .
Not the best analogy but you get my point, all the production line can do is eliminate manufacturing defects & therefore make the most of what you have. I have to say that I have not used any NakedGeek discs & in no way am I criticising his product specifically.
What is of more interest is that the allegations made in this thread are a cause for concern. If it can be proved that a distributor is importing C or D grade discs & rebadging as A grade then there must be some recourse in law? Not only by Ritek but also by the paying custumers who have been duped into buying misrepresented goods.
Another allegation is that flash is in the pocket of said distributor, is there any proof apart from heresay & rumour? Flash is a well respected media tester & to say that he has connections with or is in the employ of the above distributor is to say that all his published media tests are worthless. Can these allegations be backed up?
On another note it is true that DVD-recordable.org (& a certain other forum) is owned or funded by Total Media Distribution, Edinburgh, the owners of Datasafe/write & Bulkpaq amongst others. It would therefore be safe to assume that any tests published on dvd-recordable will have a slight leaning towards those products :)
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11. June 2004 @ 05:59 |
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Like I said previously, your opinion means jack to me funbobby as I do not believe you are a customer. Until you are willing to give me your details so I can check you truly are a customer, I am not interested in anything you have to say.
I would suggest to everyone reading this thread that you are a liar and the results you have posted are fake. Until you prove otherwise, that is what you look you like. If you truly were a customer and you truly were having bad results you would have reported the problems to me earlier and taken advantage of the guarantee. As it is you did neither, you have refused to give me your details to confirm you identity so you look like nothing less than lying stirring piece of excrement.
There is no way on this world, that I am willing to believe you would not have contacted me about this for your money back, based on how verbal you are being on this forum about it.
I said previously I would not comment further on your posts, this time, is the last.
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11. June 2004 @ 09:00 |
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Again, that proves nothing. Flash could have easily taken those pictures himself. Furthermore, there is no evidence that the disc graphs you showed are my product, or that you did not deliberatly damage the media before burning onto it.
I put it to you again that if you truly were a dissatisfied customer, with the amount of venom you have injected into this thread, I refuse to believe you would not have contacted me sooner to complain. Also, if you actively chose not to bring problems to my attention, once again you have no right to complain now, since if you had told me of your problems I could have made efforts to correct them. Go crawl back into your deceitful little hole with your chum flash.
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11. June 2004 @ 09:17 |
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Flash could have easily taken those pictures himself.
You mean I must have scribbled on top of the PRINTABLE ONES you sent me and produced the horrible design. I don't think so! I can do better than that. You can see by the design that they are NOT PRINTABLES and you know yourself you sent me a pack of printable ones.
I would imagine that funbobby purchased just the 1 tub to sample the discs and the loss will hardly break the bank, I am sure if he had purchased a large quantity of the discs you would have heard from him. Don?t you understand the reason for him not revealing his name and address to you so that you can hound him at home as well as here. The fact that potential customers have to log onto your site before they can purchase is off-putting to say the least!
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11. June 2004 @ 09:33 |
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Flash, I have no interest in anything you have to say, you are a liar, you already proved that much by saying i requested you to remove the G05 scans, which your own post proves I did not. You work for e-net, the one company responsible for the problems with media in the UK. You endorse their products, despite the fact that they have proved to be severely lacking time and time and time again. You are a dishonest person.
As for hounding him, he came here and jumped in on my products, i did not seek him out at all. Also to suggest I would do such a thing is ludicrous. He will not give me his details, because he did not purchase.
If he is a genuine case, then he is an idiot. I can not be held responsible for the problems he may or may not have had if he does not bring them to my attention. There are facilities in place for dealing with problems if he refuses to use these facilities, he has no right to complain period. Even if his results are genuine (and I still do not believe they are) there are many reasons why he may have had those results and most of them are correctable, the ones that are not are refunded (to date no refunds have had to made).
The proof of whether my media is high quality or not is in the reviews from my customers, my genuine customers, who take the time to leave a review. The same customers that keep getting blocked by dvdrhelp.com for wanting to share their experience with my media. As I stated before, they have no outside incentive to lie about my media, you do.
I think it is about time a mod took control of this thread again, the pair of you have done nothing but hijack it. The thread was originally about e-net, my response was about e-net, you are the two people that turned it into a "lets flame naked geek" fest. Grow up and go get a real life instead of taking snide back handers from one of the most unethical businessmen I have ever heard about.
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11. June 2004 @ 10:01 |
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Flash, I have no interest in anything you have to say, you are a liar, you already proved that much by saying i requested you to remove the G05 scans, which your own post proves I did not.
I do not expect a reply to this but I am going to repeat myself anyway. Your suggestion that the G05 was 8x media and yours was 4x media was an indication to me you did not want it being compared with far superior media of a different speed rating The actual text of your email is posted earlier. To show no ill feelings I have posted the original pre post review on here for others to see. It?s you who is the liar trying to twist whatever is adversely posted about your media to your advantage. Have you thought of going into politics
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You work for e-net, the one company responsible for the problems with media in the UK.
I work for no-one I am early retired on medical grounds and live several hundreds of miles from e-net.
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You endorse their products, despite the fact that they have proved to be severely lacking time and time and time again.
I am supplied samples of media which may or may not be their products and do test reviews in my old age which you in a minority consider to be worthless. I do not give a shit about your opinion or your media
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You are a dishonest person.
Had this been true I could have easily swung the test review on media-help in your favour. It would have been a great moral booster for your company and the forum. I did agree against my better judgement to delay the review so that you could get other opinions but even this did not satisfy you as the other reviews were not all that favourable and in fact several of them were worse than mine, but you chose to have them removed. I must assume that all the good reviews you have mentioned in this thread are the ones that you did not remove
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11. June 2004 @ 10:04 |
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There is a long discussion about blank dvd's.
Today I tried to burn on a -R at X4 of a known brand more than 2 times but with no success. Right after I inserted a noname -R X2 disk which burned successfully! My nightmare was a 3 letter well knowing firm. I spend a lot og money with that firm (which was known since the analog era fabricating cassette tapes). And finaly I descovered that the burning media of the same firm was burning at 33% (one successful compilation out of three)!
Beware about the suggested write speed. Choose the writing speed of the disk manufacturer and not the one suggested by the burn programm (a lot og X4 +R disks are prompted to burn at X8 from new models or s/w upgrades.
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11. June 2004 @ 10:08 |
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Nacked geek man take time out can you not see that you are digging yourself a big fat hole and there is only one place you can go and that is in it.
You keep slatting other companys for the media they supply i.e the company in Scotland, but you have got to remeber the guy who own's this comapny if he got a head on for the comments on this thread he could drag you through the courts for years just for the pure slander you are stating on this thread and this would be out of his pocket money.
Call it a day and go forward all poeple should be able to defend there selves but you are just bitting know and it is starting to look verry sad.
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11. June 2004 @ 10:09 |
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No reviews have ever been removed from my website, good or bad. Suggesting so is libel so I should watch your tongue if I was you flash, or might end up with a law suit you cannot win or afford.
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11. June 2004 @ 10:11 |
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another thing by now a moderator should have closed this thread for the shear sh*t bieng said.
But it ain't going to happen cause we all know who runs this forum :.)
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11. June 2004 @ 10:14 |
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I have stated nothing slanderous about e-net. I clearly stated that the details I have are from word of mouth and may or may not be true. As for comments about them being responsible for the crap media in the uk, this is also true, since they are the largest importers of media into the UK and the reported problems are generally with their media (documented all over the web and based on personal experience) there is nothing illegal or libelous about it.
Flash suggesting that I remove reviews from my website however, is libelous.
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11. June 2004 @ 10:27 |
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Nacked geek you are obviously a clever man but I think you are getting mixed up. The thing about forums is that the majority of users on them are media suppliers, manufacturers, testers and poeple with vested interests.
O and the odd customer. And you never know who the next guy is you are flaming. now take me for example who am I now I know the guys at the distribution centre in Scotland and I have met them all and it has to be said they are quite a good bunch a fella's, and it would not suprise me if they were watching this and chuckling to themselves. I know of 4 forums which are hosted or funded by manufacturers and as an indipendant watching this I see your point but I also do see that what you are saying is slander i.e you have heard from other poeple you have seen on other forums. This in a court of law is known as hear say and has about as much ground as venice in a court of law, now on the other hand you are stating that the distributor in Scotland is importing bad media and they are the main cause of dodgy disks.
Shear statistics state that if you sell 100.000 disk and 100000.000000 disk the fall out rate on the high turnover is going to be up a we bit don't you think.
Know if I was you I would cater for all clients with different manufacturers. This would keep this from happening i.e you would have you Ritek fans and you would have your AN31/32 fans and everyone would be happy.
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11. June 2004 @ 10:39 |
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Actually I never stated I got the information on e-net from other forums, I said I got the information on e-net from 2 sources, the first being businesses that buy stock off him and have done for some time, the second was from a company in Taiwan who claim to be E-Net's supplier. I am not stating that e-net IS guilty, I am stating that this is the information I have been given, you choose to interpret it however you please.
As for my products, I fully intend to stock a large range of different manufacturers, I have even been in touch with TY.
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11. June 2004 @ 10:52 |
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Dude what is this.
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As for comments about them being responsible for the crap media in the uk, this is also true.
And have you ever though how many companys claim to provide Scotland with Media. I for one have heard it all I have spoken to quite a few media Suppliers and Manufacturers and they all claim to be the best and the truth is they are all good in there own right.
But If I was a purchaser of goods from Scotland and I may be ;.), and I was unhappy with the goods they are not twisting my arm into buying from them. that is the choice that you contact has made.
And as for Tiwan well what can you say ever little p*ss P*t company would fall to there knee's if any up and coming company with money in there back pocket asked them to make disk for them and they would probably kill to get the contract for the rights to supply both comapnys in Scotland.
What do you think.
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Dave, what you don't seem to understand is, e-net are not just a company selling media in scotland, they supply wholesale to a lot of companies in the UK (all over the UK). All the companies I know that buy their stock from him, hate doing business with him, they do so only because he pretty much controls the market.
The company in taiwan were trying to sell me C Grade Riteks and their sales pitch was "E-Net sell these C Grade very good, we send them lots of C Grade, you make a lot of money." They phoned me, I never phoned them. I am in the process of running tests of their "A Grade" media against some e-net media to see if there is a significant difference in quality. I fully intend to publish the results.
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11. June 2004 @ 14:12 |
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[quote="Paladine"]No reviews have ever been removed from my website,
Read my post I never mentioned your website it is obvious you would not post adverse reviews on your site so there would be no need to remove them. You decided not to publish my review on your site for reasons only known to yourself.
You did however request with the administration of media-help to have all posts and threads concerning yourself and your media removed from the forum although some of these posts were made by members other than yourself and me. Amongst the threads deleted from media-help was the thread with the review of your media which in my opinion was a fair assessment of its suitability.
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11. June 2004 @ 14:29 |
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I do not put the reviews on my website. The customers do. You were not a customer.
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