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what do you think sony should do to the ps3 price?
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4. July 2006 @ 00:51 |
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Check your pm's. I know what your looking for.See ya around.
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4. July 2006 @ 00:53 |
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By the way it's november 2006 When they will release ps3.
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4. July 2006 @ 00:58 |
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Cool if I had enough I would buy a 360 for halo a pc for CS and other pc games and PS3 for all other games...
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4. July 2006 @ 03:48 |
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ya i know wat ya guys talking bout but i hope they will lowwer the price so one can buy more games ^_^
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4. July 2006 @ 05:54 |
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Nov. 17th in the us and europe. Nov. 11 in Japan.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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4. July 2006 @ 07:26 |
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and in South Africa not Africa nov... or jan... i think
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5. July 2006 @ 08:29 |
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You know i think this thread is almost piontless.
Why? Well sony will not do anything about the price for at very least 2 yrs. A more apropriate topic would be what the hell are they gonna do about the price of the games
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5. July 2006 @ 12:48 |
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60-65 a piece fr your average game.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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5. July 2006 @ 15:16 |
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people talk about MS losing money but sony has already spent 900 million on the ps3,lost 96 million to immersion in court case... got chraged 250 million in back taxes and now they took out a 698 million loan to support the ps3 and its not even out yet...good marketing scheme they got goin there
http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=71008
still wonder why games will cost so much and the system is at the price it is???
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5. July 2006 @ 19:46 |
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dngl, please do your reseach as to where that 900mil mostly went. to the development of the cell. the cell will be used in so many different things its not funny, that mney will be made bck so fast in no time. the military lready uses it, and so do some blade servers. they are going to be in tv's and other home electronics too.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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5. July 2006 @ 20:30 |
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The only thing i have seen on the 360 that has truly impressed me and has actually shown next gen is the elder scrolls iv: oblivion, and that is not an xbox exclusive title. Most people who complain about the PS3 price don't know truly what they're getting, or understand the greatness of Blu-ray. Sure $599, and even $499, is a Hell-of-alotta money, but sony does a great job of providing a valuable product. That being said your ps3 (assuming you buy one) will be worth a good amount of money and will stay in the market for years to come. So if you want to sell it somebody it will still be a good product. We're not talking about small little dvd readers that are only meant to play games...this thing is a freaking computer entertainment monster. Im not too happy about blowing $600 in the swipe of a card, but as we all know from sony's reputation, the product will be worth that money and will stay on the market. My fear in the past about Blu-ray and sony enforcing this is that it would crash and fail much like the dreamcast's ideas did, but with so much enforcement and marketing, i have faith. And besides, look away from hardware for a moment and look at the games... soooooo many exclusive and jaw-dropping titles will be on the ps3. MGS4, Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Heavenly Sword, Assassin?s Creed, Resistance Fall of Man...etc. I don't think the xbox 360 sucks, nor do i have anything against it, but compared to the ps3 and somewhat to the wii, the 360 has no right to claim the next gen credit and award. I ask around for people and friends to tell me a jaw dropping mind blowing next gen EXCLUSIVE 360 game and everyone just pauses for a moment and tells me to wait an they will come out eventually... gee thanks 360. Halo 3 and Gears of War are the only 360 titles i can see being worth of praise and reason to have a 360 but compared to all the exclusive ps3 titles you might as well take the money you would spend on a 360 and save it towards the ps3. All that being said sony's price on the console is perfectly fine...its good deal for what you're getting and they obviously need to make profit. Im curious to see what the prices on the accessories and controllers will be...
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5. July 2006 @ 20:43 |
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good post, i agree quite a bit in most areas.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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6. July 2006 @ 03:35 |
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if the price of the ps3 dropped the technology inside the ps3 would also have to be downgraded which definately wouldn't be a good thing so i think the price of the ps3 is quite good
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6. July 2006 @ 05:53 |
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Most people who complain about the PS3 price don't know truly what they're getting, or understand the greatness of Blu-ray. Sure $599, and even $499, is a Hell-of-alotta money, but sony does a great job of providing a valuable product.
will someone let me in on the secret because what ive seen of Blu-ray its othing special and i feel the same about HDTV i would just buy one over the other because of them being so similar in quality and the huge price gap..ohh reminds me of something cough cough xbox 360 and the ps3 cough cough sorry about that had a furball in my throat.extra space and unimpresive quality..yep lets pay 200 bucks more sounds good to me. if sonys says its raining dont bother looking outside to check just beleive it right? mind of a sony fan...
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6. July 2006 @ 06:14 |
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You just dont get it man unbeleivable. It's not what sony is saying, it about the potential of the hardware. Even if brd and hddvd are close now they wont be two yrs from now. HD-DVD just doesnt have to technological edge so why bind yourself to a system thats already outdated when it came out by it's infirior capabilites.
If a 10ghz processor was comming out 2mrw and it was $200 buck more than a 3ghz would you run to the store to pick up the 3ghz thinking that no current appz support 10ghz full capabilites so you'll be getting simular reformance right now. You cant live for the moment grab the future, which is Blu-ray
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6. July 2006 @ 06:45 |
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exactly. the benefits of the ps3 will soon become clear - when people listened to music on tapes, c.ds won't have sounded beneficial but it it is clear now that they are. it will be the same with Blu-ray and HD-TV
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6. July 2006 @ 06:53 |
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thanx bro. I'll never rest in the defence of any good technology
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6. July 2006 @ 08:58 |
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yeh and dvd's were the wave of the future and that lasted how long??? exactly not long enough, dvd's brought new features and technology and were great but with greedy and needy consumers nothing is the so called future so thats why its best to get middle of the road and save the money and enjoy quality that is equal to or close enough. its like this man, i love cellphones and i always want to have the newest and the best phone but if i keep playing the get the next best thing game i would be buying a new $500 phone every year its just not worth it. there will be something better than 1080p soon their will be a new super HDTV soon enough its like they have this sh!t siiting around and just put it out in little intervals that cause people to think that they got the next best thing then a month(exaggerating) later something new is out and you fellas keep spending the money to have the best hting so its you fellas living for the moment always thinking that the best thing at the moment will remain that way and sadly that isnt so.ps3 will is NOT worht it consoles do NOT last as long as sony wantsd this one too.they expect the ps3 to last ten years when in a maximum of 6 years MS and nintendo will have somethign out that will absolutley crap on the ps3, have we not learned this from years past that technology is not future proof.DVD's were supposed to last the test of time and didnt even last as long as VHS so lets be real with ourselves come on now!!!
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do you mean do my research like when you stated that sony would not have launch shortages with the ps3 because they planned not to and then i tooled you by showing that every console plans not to have a shortages even your beloved sony who had scheduled a million units to the U.S and one month before launch they cut the shipment in half? that type of research..i'll work on that
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6. July 2006 @ 10:11 |
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"yeh and dvd's were the wave of the future and that lasted how long???"
In a way you helped the point of BD. You're right though, we shouldn't always aim for "the newest hottest best thimh" oo "brand new" "amazing technology" etc. If you try to stay in the future and stay ahead of the curve, you will most likely loose and blow alot of money. Not only that but some things won't become mainstream... So here i am agreeing and completly understanding your point. But you have to ask yourself, is this going to be true and same scenario for Blu-ray? The pathway of HD vs BD is going to be very much like VHS vs Betamax in my opinion. Maybe not nearly as bad or dramatic, since there are so many bigshot companies behind both HD and BD, but it will still be a wild ride to see what because mainstream. Here's how i see it and where my beliefs collide with yours. You say to go ahead and take the middle road and go HD, which really isn't a bad idea, but that means your also saying go 360 over ps3. Heres some stuff i posted on another thread...
...if ANY thing will replace the DVD as mainstream format that majoirty studios will use, it will most likely be the HD-DVD. Especially since that law/announcement was made that in 7 years or something, all US TV stations are required to have switched over to HD (some enforcement to future technology). Nevertheless Blu-ray is going to be helpful. I don't see it being mainsream anytime soon whatsoever, but for us gamers and those in the industry, this is a good step forward that sony has brought upon us. This breaks that bar and line of game developer's games being too big or to heavy duty for a mere DVD to handle. Now they have vast amount of space to work with and throw things on.
...but there is plenty of logic in Blu-ray. A lot of the games and content we experience is shuttered down, edited, and compressed because of the limitations and capacities of DVDs. Sure HDDVD is going to do as much as Blu-ray or only a slight less for just a bit, but only for a bit. Why switch to one format that?s more then double the less as good as the other when you can go a head and jump a grade, jump a step, and instead of blowing double the money, go ahead and evolve to Blu-ray to have features, abilities, and capacity that will last you and developers for years to come. And believe me there are developers and companies that will use blu-rays potential and take advantage of the power. No longer will we have to worry about games delaying to take stuff or chop down stuff, or movies removing extra features or never even adding any. Now content, especially, games have a huge field to go into and lay things down on. Imagine if The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion was not being released until another year and was going to get to use the power of blu ray for ps3...their limitations would be almost endless and would be so much more improved.
That all being said, and what you said about always having buying/wanting new expensive phone, isn't HD almost as new as BD? Of course it isn't as new, but why spend alot of mony on HD and then 3 years later go to BD when you could have used the money you spent on the HD and the 360 and put it torwards BD and PS3? I just wouldn't get BD when its fresh on the market (except maybe ps3) reason being, once it gets a little more mainstream it will be alot cheaper. (look at dvd players now). Sorry for long post.
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6. July 2006 @ 10:17 |
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wht you saw of bluray was not so good because the studio still used the mpeg2 coding, because it was just an upscaled dvd version. and yes everyone except ms plans to not have shortages, but this month is when ps3 will be in production. ms started mking the 360 2 months before launch, a bad move. the ps3 will have had 4-4.5 months for prduction. they may have shortages, but no where near that the 360 had, that was one of the most epic shortages in gaming history.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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6. July 2006 @ 10:25 |
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i guess we'll have to wait and see how it all goes beccause analyst are saying sony will have another MS situation on their hands because their consoles has way more parts than the 360 does which is 1700 or something around that. And production i read was supposed to start at the end of this month or the start of august and if it starts in auguest thats only 3 months to manufacture a hella complicated system with new technology.MS messed up with old technology lets see wqhat sony does...
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good post, i see what your saying but is all a little iffy to me at the moment. I mean its a hit or miss and im not ready to spend big money arent something with 50 50 odds of making it. but all that said i know where your coming from.
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6. July 2006 @ 10:27 |
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MPEG 2 was not the only reason BluRay had a poor launch. They couldn't get BD50 working and the Sammy had HDMI issues and a sub-par deinterlacer.
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6. July 2006 @ 10:37 |
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this hydrocodone is really hitting me now. i cant read easy for type as fast or normal, but i can type anthing by only staring at the g key and moving 4 of my fingers around..weird..
so i hope bluray wins. even if it doesnt it will be around commercially and for games only if it fails for movies. bluray is basically set in stone for this. if for some reason HD-DVD takes videos, blurays hold in storage (200gb 8-layer disks) and is requred for ps3 gaming.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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6. July 2006 @ 10:43 |
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Every one here has made some good points.
You know I was thinking.Sony has everyone talking about bluray.Whether it be bad talk or good talk.I don't see this as a bad thing for ps3.It's like nintendo's wiimote.Niether the bluray or the wiimote are original or anything special but it's generating alot of hype.
It's like the rapper eminem(now stay with me lol)the more bad publicity he got the more people wanted it.Now I know it's not the same but I couldn't think of another example quickly.My point is controversy sells on anything, and bluray is controversial.
I think it's all playing right into sony's hands because even though us tech guys won't buy it, the consumer may very well fall for it given a price reduction.
Just another one of my stupid observations lol.
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6. July 2006 @ 10:47 |
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it was a good observation...nice analogy
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