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24. December 2009 @ 04:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
When it happened to me the card would do 2D just fine all day. But when I tried games it would lock up.



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24. December 2009 @ 04:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sounds similar to the problem I had with a 6200 that I gave to Russ. Would play dvds, 2D, even N64 games all day, but play GTA III or San Andreas and it would lock up.



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It may work fine up until you try to do something with it, when which it will unexplainably crash. I'd strongly suggest you RMA it.



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24. December 2009 @ 14:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
All right, thanks.
What do you guys think about EVGA's RMA service?
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I've heard good things and bad things, but don't have much personal experience to offer from anyone I know.



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24. December 2009 @ 23:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
I've heard good things and bad things, but don't have much personal experience to offer from anyone I know.
aight, thanks

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9. January 2010 @ 14:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Maybe some one can explain this as I haven't been able to make any headway lol. When I set my ram speed to 1067 with a FSB of 266 POST fails, but when the FSB is set higher (i.e. 355) the entire system runs 100% stable with the ram set at 1067 or even a bit higher. Any ideas as to why I can't run my ram at its rated speed with the stock FSB speed?

TIA.


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9. January 2010 @ 14:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Is this an nforce board?



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fsb holes do appear sometimes



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I ask because FSB black holes are known to all boards, but they are much more common with nforce chipsets.



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9. January 2010 @ 17:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm wondering myself which board is it? if run your ram passed 1066 you gotta loosen the timing up abit ..I don't know which board you got or ram you have no info left by you:(

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10. January 2010 @ 00:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for the replies. All my system info is in my sig (click the picture) but here it is anyway:

MB: Asus Commando
CPU: E6600
RAM: Corsair Dominator PC8500

To clarify the what's going on see below:

*anything not listed remains the same

Setting 1:
FSB - 266
RAM - 889Mhz
--runs fine

Setting 2:
FSB - 266
RAM - 1067Mhz
-- POST fails

Setting 3:
FSB - 353
RAM - 1067Mhz
-- runs fine


The ram at its current timings runs fine at 1067Mhz and the board will run at any FSB I've tried. It's just the "setting 2" combination doesn't work.

Thanks.


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10. January 2010 @ 08:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sounds like an FSB black hole. My AMD 790FX board does the same thing between 3.7 and 3.9GHz. 3.7 stable 24/7, 3.8 never been stable, 3.9 stable 24/7(stupid volts of course).



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FSB holes are an interesting, unfortunate, yet relatively unavoidable scenario. They were everywhere with the nforce boards I used, but I find them very hard to find with Intel chipsets, presumably due to the very limiting number of memory multipliers. As to whether they will reappear on the i5 platform though, I will hopefully find out the answer to relatively soon.



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This is actually the first AMD processor I've used with any kind of FSB hole. My 3800+, 4400+, 5000+ BE, and 7750 BE all OC'd right to their max without any gaps. Though I've also never had an AMD chip break 3.2GHz, especially with such high performance per clock, so this is new territory for me.

I also kept logs for all my OC settings as I adjusted to keep track of my known good settings. This made sure that I could start from a good spot if my first try failed. Most notably my 940 BE was my first Phenom based chip. I thought I was stuck at 3.4GHz for the longest time until I read that turning up the NB speed to 2200MHz would do it.



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10. January 2010 @ 12:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Lucky! I bump my northbridge frequency, and things start acting up...
When I get my new board, I can devote a lot more attention to this one, and hopefully find out EXACTLY what it's issue is. Maybe anyway...



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10. January 2010 @ 15:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Maybe it is, I don't know the first thing about black holes (of any kind). Looks I'll just need to restore the OC lol. Thanks guys.


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24. January 2010 @ 15:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well I tried to restore the OC that's in my sig (3.2ghz) and was met with near immediate failure. About 4 BSOD's in in less then 20 minutes lol. The only thing that has changed in my system since it was last OC'd and stable is the addition of hdd's & RAM which as far as I know shouldn't have any effect on anything relevant (for a minor OC like this). Any ideas on why it's no longer stable at a previous stable OC (I ran 3.2Ghz on this rig for at least a year with no problems)?

I did notice a little peculiar, although I don't know if it's related or not. According to everest my 3 2GB sticks of ram run on 2.1v while the sole 1GB stick is listed as 2.2v. The memory voltage is manually set in the bios to 2.1v so is it possible that the 1GB module is causing problems when I push them to higher speeds?

TIA


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Originally posted by Red_Maw:
Well I tried to restore the OC that's in my sig (3.2ghz) and was met with near immediate failure. About 4 BSOD's in in less then 20 minutes lol. The only thing that has changed in my system since it was last OC'd and stable is the addition of hdd's & RAM which as far as I know shouldn't have any effect on anything relevant (for a minor OC like this). Any ideas on why it's no longer stable at a previous stable OC (I ran 3.2Ghz on this rig for at least a year with no problems)?

I did notice a little peculiar, although I don't know if it's related or not. According to everest my 3 2GB sticks of ram run on 2.1v while the sole 1GB stick is listed as 2.2v. The memory voltage is manually set in the bios to 2.1v so is it possible that the 1GB module is causing problems when I push them to higher speeds?

TIA

Red_Maw,
You are using 4 sticks of memory, and that can be a big problem when overclocking. I've done it in the past by overclocking with two sticks and then adding the other two when everything was set, but I don't ever recommend 4 sticks for overclocking. Installing a different size stick into the mix doesn't help a lot either. Ideally, the 4 sticks should all be the same model, size, manufacturer, timings, and speed. Mixing different modules, is generally not a good idea!

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24. January 2010 @ 16:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Haha I was afraid some one would say that. The sticks are exactly the same with the exception of one of them being 1GB instead of 2GB so at least they aren't mix & matched. I might as well take some out and see if it helps although I'll probably just end up putting them back in even if it does lol. Thanks Russ.

Edit: And in doing so it killed the second lan port on my MB lol.


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Originally posted by Red_Maw:
Haha I was afraid some one would say that. The sticks are exactly the same with the exception of one of them being 1GB instead of 2GB so at least they aren't mix & matched. I might as well take some out and see if it helps although I'll probably just end up putting them back in even if it does lol. Thanks Russ.

Red_Maw,
I don't think mixing a 1GB module with a 2GB module helps either. Keep in mind that if one memory stick has higher speed timings, all the memory will run at those slower timings. The same thing goes for speed. Add a slower stick, and it will all slow to that speed.

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24. January 2010 @ 18:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oh wow, 3 2Gb sticks with one 1GB stick? I'm amazed you got a mhz beyond stock... That needs rectifying!



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Originally posted by sammorris:
Oh wow, 3 2Gb sticks with one 1GB stick? I'm amazed you got a mhz beyond stock... That needs rectifying!

I wonder what that does to Dual Channel operation, as well?

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25. January 2010 @ 13:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Haha you guy's are completely right. Took out the 1 1GB module and it ran perfect at 3.0Ghz all day yesterday. For the record every stick was the same make and model PC2 8500 ram (with the exception of the size of course). Thanks for the advice.

While the the good ambient temps hold (still under 20C at idle @ 3.2Ghz) I'm going to see if I can finally break 4Ghz.

Edit: All most forgot, as far as actual dual channel operation goes I wouldn't know how to test for that but every program I checked (everest & cpuz iirc) reported dual channel operation. If anything I would think that the 2GB stick paired with the 1GB stick would only be half utilized.


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25. January 2010 @ 13:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
4Ghz with three sticks of RAM is still likely to be tricky. I'd recommend you only use 2 sticks if you want to get a good overclock.



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