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25. January 2010 @ 14:43 |
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Not only that but 2 sticks will use dual channel then. So not only will it OC higher, it will be faster per clock. That would give you more benefit than an extra 2GB of RAM I think.
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25. January 2010 @ 17:12 |
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25. January 2010 @ 20:00 |
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Originally posted by Red_Maw:
Haha you guy's are completely right. Took out the 1 1GB module and it ran perfect at 3.0Ghz all day yesterday. For the record every stick was the same make and model PC2 8500 ram (with the exception of the size of course). Thanks for the advice.
While the the good ambient temps hold (still under 20C at idle @ 3.2Ghz) I'm going to see if I can finally break 4Ghz.
Edit: All most forgot, as far as actual dual channel operation goes I wouldn't know how to test for that but every program I checked (everest & cpuz iirc) reported dual channel operation. If anything I would think that the 2GB stick paired with the 1GB stick would only be half utilized.
I agree with what Sam said! Each pair of memory sockets is one channel, so populating 3 of the sockets leaves you with the one with the single stick, running in single channel, while the first pair is running Dual channel. It should run and overclock better with just 1 pair of modules installed in either channel. That could be sockets 1-3, 2-4 or 1-2, 3-4, depending on the motherboard. For instance, mine is 1-2, 3-4. I'm currently using sockets 3 & 4, because of the height of the Dominators, as they won't clear the CPU fan if installed in sockets 1 & 2! The data transfer bit rate for the single stick is half that of the pair in dual channel, I believe the dual channel is 128 bit, while the single channel is only 64 bit. That's why it should overclock better and easier if you remove the odd stick.
If you run CPUz on it it should show the pair as dual channel and the single stick as single channel. Just select SPD from the menu, and select each stick from the upper left where it says Slot#.
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25. January 2010 @ 21:28 |
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Can't get it stable at 3.2Ghz with all three sticks so one does have to go. I never realized that by using an odd number of ram modules it wouldn't run as dual channel; good to know thanks.
Russ, I don't see what you're talking about with CPU-Z. Here's what I get:
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25. January 2010 @ 21:31 |
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I didn't think CPUZ Showed dual channel mode as being enabled or not, but it's easy to tell - if you have an odd number of memory sticks, you aren't in dual channel!
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26. January 2010 @ 00:33 |
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Mine says dual channel, but I'm running 4 modules. Perhaps it's simply identifying the module as Dual channel...
Oh, you meant an ODD number of modules. Sorry :p
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26. January 2010 @ 12:30 |
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Originally posted by Red_Maw:
Can't get it stable at 3.2Ghz with all three sticks so one does have to go. I never realized that by using an odd number of ram modules it wouldn't run as dual channel; good to know thanks.
Russ, I don't see what you're talking about with CPU-Z. Here's what I get:
Red_Maw,
It's there, only on the memory tab. What's puzzling is that it shows Dual Channel for yours, with only 3 sticks of memory. Look in the top right part of the top left pic you posted!
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Russ
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26. January 2010 @ 12:51 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Perhaps it's simply identifying the module as Dual channel...
Isn't it possible, that it's merely noting that the module is capable of dual channel?
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26. January 2010 @ 13:12 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Originally posted by omegaman7:
Perhaps it's simply identifying the module as Dual channel...
Isn't it possible, that it's merely noting that the module is capable of dual channel?
Oman7,
No! Because it not only shows that it's running in dual channel, it also shows the mode it's running in as Symmetric. Mine shows Dual Channel, and runs in Ganged mode.
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26. January 2010 @ 14:42 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Oman7,
No! Because it not only shows that it's running in dual channel, it also shows the mode it's running in as Symmetric. Mine shows Dual Channel, and runs in Ganged mode.
Russ
Well then, I stand corrected :p
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26. January 2010 @ 22:25 |
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Actually Russ running in unganged mode vs ganged is not 64 vs 128 bit nor single channel vs dual. Ganged and unganged determines if it uses both sticks separately or as one piece. It is actually highly recommended to run in unganged mode. It is faster and more stable.
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26. January 2010 @ 22:41 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Red_Maw,
It's there, only on the memory tab. What's puzzling is that it shows Dual Channel for yours, with only 3 sticks of memory. Look in the top right part of the top left pic you posted!
Best Regards,
Russ
I was expecting to see one module not running in dual channel so I wasn't exactly sure what to make of it. About this the manual says:
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You may install varying memory sizes in Channel A and Channel B. The system maps the total size of the lower-sized channel for the dual-channel configuration. Any excess memory from the higher-sized channel is then mapped for single-channel operation.
So I'd assume cpu-z was picking up on the 2x2GB modules that were in dual channel configuration rather then the one 2GB module that was operating in single channel.
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It seems this cpu is no longer good for speeds past 3Ghz. It might fair better if I changed a few more voltages (namely the NB iirc) although seeing as that wasn't necessary in the past it wouldn't be surprising if it didn't help.
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27. January 2010 @ 02:00 |
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I can't touch my NB frequency. Last time I did, it caused weird hiccups, without stabilizing my OC. I tried running at 2000Mhz, but an Optical drive would drop out erratically. Turned it back down to 1800Mhz, and problem solved. Yes, I tried upping both the southbridge voltage, and the northbridge. Both I tried as much as .2V for a short amount of time, with no change. The .1V boost didn't bother me, but the .2V boost made me somewhat nervous.
Can't wait to play with my new machine, but it may be a while before I can now. I have a collection agency trying to get money from me. Hopefully I can come to some kind of arrangement, but they've already handed it to the courts, so we'll see...
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27. January 2010 @ 08:06 |
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Maw: Have you actually tried with just the two sticks of RAM?
Omega: You bought PC hardware when there are bailiffs after you? :S
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27. January 2010 @ 11:36 |
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LOL nice. Gotta get your priorities straight ;P
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27. January 2010 @ 12:34 |
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I trust there is no confusion, how much I am "in love" with my pc's! LOL! Pc's are my future. But I do need to get my priorities straight. Hopefully it doesn't get as serious as it could become. From what I heard, it sounds like the lady I'm dealing with may be a complete Female Dog! LOL! She's already screwed with me once. I may have to give payments in change(all coins)! :p
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27. January 2010 @ 18:55 |
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Jeff: It does take you by surprise. Look closer and you'll suddenly realise they're still naff graphics, but from a TV viewing distance it comes out rather well.
Omega: A feeling I know all too well :D
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27. January 2010 @ 21:50 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Maw: Have you actually tried with just the two sticks of RAM?
Yeah that was with just the 2x2GB sticks so the system was exactly the same as it was before except for a few more hdds, the corsair psu and win7. If I had to blame something besides the hardware getting older it would be win7 since it didn't seem to like the higher OC. Booted up into some uber basic version of win7 (looked like 2000 to me) which was my first clue things weren't going to turn out well lol.
This system has some how gotten so many odd problems I just can't wait to build another.
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27. January 2010 @ 22:18 |
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Actually playing on my 2407WFP right now with my face maybe 2-3 feet away from the monitor. Sure Halo has never been absolutely jawdropping, but overall the game looks damn nice. Certainly one of the best looking console games I have seen. I'll be trying out my TV tonight sometime. It's a regular 4:3 CRT but it can do 1080i(1280 * 1080, the Xbox is supposed to be able to use it). Never actually tried HD on it so I'm curious to see what it can do.
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28. January 2010 @ 09:54 |
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An unusual bug to get from an overclock. If I were you I'd make sure you've got a clean install of windows before trying to overclock.
As far as your TV goes, I imagine it will look something similar to playing 1080 content through a large 720p TV, i.e. quite heavily interpolated, but perhaps worse since the native resolution isn't the correct ratio either. It will look better than SD I'm sure, but I'm a bit of an IQ sceptic on non-standard setups like that :P
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28. January 2010 @ 16:46 |
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As far as your TV goes, I imagine it will look something similar to playing 1080 content through a large 720p TV, i.e. quite heavily interpolated, but perhaps worse since the native resolution isn't the correct ratio either.
Actually it displays in the correct ratio. The Xbox detects the TV and everything just fine. Nothing is distorted or stretched. Makes sense to me because it can do widescreen and 4:3, whose to say it's stuck to certain resolutions? As far as heavy interpolation well no duh. But it looks miles better than SD.
You know I'm an IQ freak like you Sam, but I don't let stuff bother me so bad. SO who cares if it's not 1080p on the perfect TV? It's a damn console game :P
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28. January 2010 @ 19:38 |
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28. January 2010 @ 19:47 |
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Yeah it is so the IQ is actually pretty decent. It isn't near as good as a full 1080p HDTV doing it's magic but certainly leaps and bounds ahead of SD.
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29. January 2010 @ 19:35 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
Actually Russ running in unganged mode vs ganged is not 64 vs 128 bit nor single channel vs dual. Ganged and unganged determines if it uses both sticks separately or as one piece. It is actually highly recommended to run in unganged mode. It is faster and more stable.
Estuansis,
That has not been my finding at all. I get better benchmarks in Ganged Mode than I do in Un-Ganged Mode. Better Memory Bandwidth too!
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29. January 2010 @ 19:45 |
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From the reading I've done since (not a lot, I admit) it seems that ganged mode is the high performance option, and is also the standard. Unganged mode is apparently a new feature enabled by AMD memory controllers, and seems to reduce read performance substantially, but provides a very small boost in write performance.
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