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How do u make BitTorrent download faster? i have been searching the answer for days.
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BKfosho
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17. January 2006 @ 12:43 |
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im having trouble with my download speed its only at like 10 kb/s at most and the smiley face never comes and idk if its a port problem or just slow and thats it ?
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biggermac
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17. January 2006 @ 12:52 |
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Something in the following normally will be why a yellow light in torrent warning programs:
(2) Firewall.
A firewall is a blocker or filter. You can send stuff outbound (upload), however they will block most ports for incoming (think of a port as a hole for stuff to get in and go out). Firewalls are now necessary because there is so much evil stuff written that is trying to harm your computer - it is just floating around on the Internet and trying and trying to find a hole to enter your computer.
Almost everyone runs a Program that is a Firewall (software firewall). But if you use a router, by the nature of it's duties, it becomes a hardware firewall. You can use a router and also run a software firewall, but running 2 software Firewalls will probably cause problems. Running a router only can be sufficient, but you do not get the bells and whistles a software firewall gives you. Example - For an old P3 running Windows 98 computer on my home network, no software firewall is used, the router seems to do OK as a firewall. And by the way if you download torrents regularly, you know they can take hours or all day, an old $80 computer like my Windows 98 one I just mentioned, even one at 500 MHz, is plenty good enough to download torrents so you don't tie up your main computer and have response slowdowns with it.
Port forwarding: this means open a port for incoming. So in reference to a torrent program, you must "port forward" in a firewall that port or those ports that your torrent program uses. Now you see, if you have a router (hardware firewall) and are running a software firewall as well, you must open up the ports used in both Firewalls not just one.
Now there is another way to open up ports. This is only for software Firewalls and only affects a software firewall.. You can just exclude your torrent exe program from the firewall. All ports will be open when you run the torrent. Here is an example - if you use Windows XP's firewall, click on control-panel/firewall, and you'll see one of the commands you can click is "Exceptions". In there listed are programs like Yahoo Messenger. You need to add your torrent program to the list.
Norton anti-virus 2005 .. Since I run Norton SystemWorks 2005 which has anti-virus in it, I know the anti-virus program itself runs a firewall, but it does not call it such. It probably asked you when you 1st installed Norton if it was OK to shut off the XP firewall (or any I suppose) and you probably ticked "OK do it". So, you've got to find where to add to exclude or ignore your torrent program if you didn't tell it OK before. (look for the "options' tab to be able to change/add things).
Finally on Firewalls and ports - don't use the default ports of 6881- 6889 (or whatever they are). There are 65000 port or so. Use a port or ports range above 20000. Me, I use ports in the 55000 range. If you only do one torrent at a time (recommended) you should only need to use one port (they call it a listening port I believe) and not a field of ports. At least it I this way for BitTornado.
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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Billy_Ray
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17. January 2006 @ 13:37 |
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I've got Azureus 2.2.0.2 and my configuration is as follows:
1meg NTL cable broadband.
Upload truspeed measured at 120kiloBit/s or 15kiloByte/s.
Motorola WR850g wireless router with 1 port (TCP & UDP) in the 50-60,000's forwarded to my laptop with a static IP set.
Windows XP SP2 firewall enabled but with both Azureus.exe and the TCP&UDP protocols of the above port listed as exceptions.
Azureus upload settings:
12kB/s max upload speed
0kB/s max download speed
96 max no connections per torrent
96 max no of connections globally
1 max simultaneous downloads
1 max active torrents
(all the Azureus settings were obtained from entering my measured upload truspeed in the following site: http://infinite-source.de/az/az-calc.html)
I have no discernable problems with Azureus, green smilies, no NAT or tracker errors, etc.
When downloading popular, heavily seeded torrents my speeds average around 30, peaking around 60 and troughing around 20 once the download has had time to settle.
My question is I have regularly read of people achieving speeds of 100+, is this possible with my current set-up? Is there anything I could be missing that would boost my downloads further?
Thanks very much
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biggermac
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17. January 2006 @ 21:36 |
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Billy_Ray (Newbie) wrote:
- 12 KB/s max upload speed
When downloading popular, heavily seeded torrents my speeds average around 30, peaking around 60 and troughing around 20 once the download has had time to settle.
My question is I have regularly read of people achieving speeds of 100+, is this possible with my current set-up? Is there anything I could be missing that would boost my downloads further?
One of the rules of torrent programs, written into it's very nature, is that you can't "cheat" like other P2P programs - meaning in other programs you can choose not even to participate in giving others your files but you still are able to download well.. So the guy who wrote BitTorrent the original, that you must upload well to be able to download well. Ideally, the more bandwidth you upload with the more you'll get to download in return, because everyone involved is sharing in the torrent process, thus you are combining other's upload speeds (which are limited) to simulate the faster downloads.
It boils down to this frankly - your upload speed of 12 KB/s (12 x 8 = 96) or 98 Kbps, kind of sucks, so the torrent programs thinks you are holding back, and your download speeds are kind of right on that you are getting.
If you can get a faster connection and have at least 250 Kbps upload, which at 80% of that is 200 Kbps or 25 KB/s which is what you enter into your torrent program for max upload speed (25), you will do much better. When I had 250 Kbps upload through cable I occasionally got 2 Mbps or 250 KB/s downloads, more often 125 KB/s (popular torrents), but you have to be satisfied getting 75 KB/s (600 Kbps) with most. Now I supposedly have 400 KB/s up (but test reveal about 375 Kbps) and a bit more often get 2 Mbps (250 KB/s, 2000 Kbps) and 1 Mbps (popular), still though back to you have to be happy if you can average 600 Kbps/75 KB/s.
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I've heard on the news today that the motion picture industry is going to start really cracking down on illegal transferring of movies.. by causing problems, but by prosecuting (suing) some people too. So if you download illegal stuff then time to look at a go-between that changes your address.. I don't know a whole lot about this, I'd have to look into it, but of course since I never download illegal torrents I would only be seeking the out the info to further my knowledge..
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...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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Billy_Ray
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18. January 2006 @ 00:39 |
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So it seems I'm getting the sort of speeds my connection deserves - well at least I've got the sucker configured right! Cheers biggermac
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biggermac
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18. January 2006 @ 00:56 |
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Billy_Ray,
Make sure 12 KB/s is at least 80% of your max upload speed. If I lost 2/3rds my speed after it got going all of the time, I'd think that I wasn't leaving at least 20% of my upload speed for your torrent program to work in once it caught up to that speed.. You might even try ticking back from 12 to 11 and even 10 to see what happens.
You can try a file that undoes what the SP2 upgrade did - limit certain connection types to 10 - this was put in to help stop Worms from proliferating. Google the "LVlord" mod. When you run it, put in "1000" when it asks. You will also be warned by Windows XP, and ignore it - however, with anything that messes with your registry, you had better save the registry to a file before you run it, just in case...
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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Billy_Ray
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18. January 2006 @ 01:20 |
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will do, thanks.
done a bit of reading around this LVlord thing and opinions seem to be very much divided as to whether it actually improves torrent speeds, as its more designed towards file sharing programs like emule and the like. also does it compromise security at all? what do you reckon biggermac?
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biggermac
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18. January 2006 @ 02:33 |
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I've been running it (1000 half connections) and I don't see why it would be a security risk unless you "caught" a worm in which case you'd be passing it around like in the old days.
It might help a bit for torrents - perhpas if you lose a source that is feeding you, you'll be able to find a another quicker (??).
I did grab something I couldn't find in a torrent (large file) in a normal p2p progrqam and was over 1 Mbps.
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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Billy_Ray
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18. January 2006 @ 02:53 |
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appreciate the advice, i'll give it a go and see what happens...
oh and one more thing. I've been hearing alot of good things about the utorrent client, particularly for relatively light torrent users like myself. the idea of a far less resource hungry client is appealing as i find Azureus can clog things up a bit. do you rate it? can it match Azureus for speed if configured correctly?
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xPariSx
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18. January 2006 @ 03:37 |
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This question(or anything like it)isnt in the FAQ's so I thought i'd ask.
My ps2 blew a fuse(atleast I think) because when i took it to scotland and had my brother hook it up he used a watt converter and accidentaly put the wattage thing too high and turned it on....we saw a flash of light inside the ps2 and then silence. So im geussing it blew a fuse.
Now Im back home(Michigan)trying to figure out how to fix it or get it fixed and how much it will cost. Ive posted in plenty of forums asking this same question and have gotten no replies whatsoever...as if this situation is forbidden to talk about or something,lol.
It would be really nice if someone could help me with this situation...or atleast could someone give me a 1800 number i can call for assistance.
Thank you,
Paris
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biggermac
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18. January 2006 @ 11:38 |
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Billy_Ray (Newbie) wrote: appreciate the advice, i'll give it a go and see what happens...
oh and one more thing. I've been hearing alot of good things about the utorrent client, particularly for relatively light torrent users like myself. the idea of a far less resource hungry client is appealing as i find Azureus can clog things up a bit. do you rate it? can it match Azureus for speed if configured correctly?
I never heard of utorrent, but I don't get out that much.
I use BitTornado and it is pretty easy to understand what goes where. I am not an expert but I have used it long enough and messed with it enough that I think it is an excellnt program.
The only thing I recommend changing (at 1st anyway) is where it says "automatic" for uploads, you change it to either "slow DSL/Cable" or "fast DSL/Cable", in which case a number is put into the "max upload speed) box reresenting KB/s, at which point you now can change the number to fit your situation.
The only other box on the main page is the "max uploads" box (not max upload speed) and that is set to 4 or 6, depending on if you chose slow or fast DSL/Cable. I'd make it 4 for now. If you have a fast upload speed like 400 Kbps (50 KB/s) upload you can try 5 or 6 at anther time.
Remember that any changes made in BitTornado, other than that 1st page, will not take effect until you open up BitTornado the next time. So close it then start it up again.
You could change the port (or port range) that's on on another page, try ports over 50,000 (get away from those defaults), also later you could experiment, like try running without UPnP (if so shand you have a router, shut off UPnP in yur router).
BitTornado has a colored light warning system like several others do too.
Looking at Azereus i see it says it is a "Java" Bittorrent client, so that might be why you have some issues with it being "high resource" issues.. I also run BitTornado on a 600 MHz Pentium 3 (windows 98 SE) used on my home network as a "torrent getter" (works fine) so my main computer isn't tied up for multiple hours being a slower to respond when using it for other things,.
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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Billy_Ray
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18. January 2006 @ 23:24 |
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thanks for info, much appreciated
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taogamma
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19. January 2006 @ 20:52 |
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Help,
i have been having a lot of issues with azereus with download speeds.
im very new actually with torent and i dont really know how to use it.
anyways,
i have cable modem BUT no router.
how do i *optimizes* my download speed.
any help would be appreciated!.
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biggermac
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19. January 2006 @ 22:41 |
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taogamma (Newbie) wrote: i have been having a lot of issues with azereus with download speeds. im very new actually with torent and i dont really know how to use it.
i have cable modem BUT no router.
how do i *optimizes* my download speed.
any help would be appreciated!.
For general overview, just scan up this page and back a page or two. There are helpful files. I posted a large help file somewhere in the last few pages..
Just so you know, whenever you visit a forum and ask for help, you should scan for titles of posts that might help before you ask for help.. At least scan a few pages. Repeating something posted a few posts ago and that's been posted 30 times overall would raise wrath upon you by some..
But I'll break down (again) what would be the 1st thing to try when trying to optimize:
<> The torrent grabbing code is written so that you must upload well to be able to download well (no true leeches like in other P2P programs where you can still download without offering uploads). So ideally, the better your upload speed, the better (faster) you'll be able to download.
Make sure you know your maximum upload speed. Remember this though: torrent programs need about 20% of your upload speed to operate in with it's own stuff. Therefore you only enter into a torrent program where it says something like "max upload speed" 80% of your true max upload speed.
Your Internet Service provider usually tells you your speed in "Kbps". But torrent programs use "KB/s". The / isn't important here, but this is -the large B = Bytes, vs a small b = bits. 8 bits = a Byte. If you have a 400 Kbps upload speed, 1/8th of that is 50, that means 400 Kbps = 50 KB/s. Then as I said, you enter only 80% of the 50 KB/s into the torrent program max upload speed field, meaning 40 (40 KB/s).
Good idea to test your speed at a couple of different places.
Try testing here: http://www.dslreports.com/stest
Remember cable speeds can slow during optimum times when a lot of users in your neighborhood are sharing the cable's bandwidth with you. So I'd tick it back in this case from 40 to at least 35, because if this number doesn't give the torrent program enough room to operate in, your download speed will go down once you reach the higher upload speed you've entered...
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the other thing - make sure your torrent program is excluded in your firewall program, be it Windows XP's firewall, or another - you want to tell it to ignore the whole torrent program, or else you need to "port forward" those ports in it that the torrent program is using.
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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heln
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20. January 2006 @ 01:47 |
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HI i have some questions re. Bitorrent. the ultimate goal is to increase my torrent ssppeds. Can someone please help me?
1. when i start Bitlord, my firewall asks me if i wan to let bitlorxd act as a server. should i?
2. i am using a public IP adress. should i still set up a static IP address?
3. I am using ZoneAlarm free firewall. I don't know how to configure it to open up my listening port. i tried looking at the help section but the instructions talk about clicking on buttons that don't exist. HUh?????
So I would really appreciate it if someone can help me answer some of the questions above.
Many thanks
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taogamma
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20. January 2006 @ 05:49 |
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ok thanks biggermac. i have done all of those and have read the previous posts but still my speed is at 1-3 kbps. the only thing i have not done is the "tracker". i do understand i have to register to a private tracker, but kindly explain how i do that and how do i register? after registering to a priv. tracker, then what?
btw, im using mininova to get my torrents
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AfterDawn Addict
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20. January 2006 @ 06:30 |
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MiniNova tends to have verrry low seeds. Go with reg'd trackers. You may have a chance to get a torrent bytes account if you can store you'r email address in the clipboard, so you can paste it when their is a space free.
Apparently they delete an old account every 10 minutes, and their is huge demand for a TB account, so that's why you should keep you're email in the clipboard, so you can register quicker because you paste the email which has to be entered twice, that's how I got one!
http://www.torrentbytes.net
-Mike
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taogamma
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20. January 2006 @ 07:40 |
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i cannot register in torrentbytes
i have however registered in mininova.org? what do i do next?
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20. January 2006 @ 08:04 |
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You can register in TorrentBytes.. I told you an account is deleted every 10 minutes. Public tracker's such as MiniNova can be dangerous and are usually poorly-seeded.
-Mike
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taogamma
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20. January 2006 @ 08:51 |
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ok, how about bitsoup.org. i have registered there. now what? thanks agian for the help
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biggermac
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20. January 2006 @ 09:18 |
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taogamma (Newbie) wrote: ok thanks biggermac. i have done all of those and have read the previous posts but still my speed is at 1-3 kbps. the only thing i have not done is the "tracker". i do understand i have to register to a private tracker, but kindly explain how i do that and how do i register? after registering to a priv. tracker, then what?
btw, im using mininova to get my torrents
Registering for a tracker, as far as I understand it, would be going to a torrent offering website and signing up there. I don't know if it's good or bad..
But I never register. I use one of two torrent search engines, which lists stuff from everywhere, and shows how popular one is, vs another and another..
Probably 1/4th to 1/3rd of the torrents I try end up being dead or private or some other reason I can't connect. If I can't connect, well then I find another from the list.
Your good download speed is not instant:
At 1st your upload speed and download speed crawl, maybe for as much as 15 minutes for a large file, even if popular (25 seeds, 100 peers or more I'd call popular). The process is slow at 1st, because you are not uploading well (which punishes your download as stated before). Only after enough slow time has passed do you have enough tenure and a piece of the torrent where you now can become a good contributing part of the circle.. But still speed will then start to escalate, it won't be instant up all the way. Speeds also will fluctuate at times.. Example: downloading at 1 Mbps (same as 125 KB/s, or 1000 Kbps), you start to dip down and lose 30% of that.. it should pick up again, but what if a couple of supplying seeds went off-line, or anyone ahead of you that was feeding you?. Takes time to find new sources. And each torrent-gotten file is a different download, in that many different variables are involved.
and.. I hope the status light in your torrent program is not yellow after a bit of time passes (??) What color is it?
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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taogamma
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20. January 2006 @ 09:32 |
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its green,
anyways, i have registered in bitsoup.org.
maybe my speed settings?
ive been trying like the whole day and the highest ive seen my dload speed is at 7 kbps, most of the time its <1kbps
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abismu
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20. January 2006 @ 10:00 |
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ok i haven't been able to read the vast amounts of responses. my light is always green, i disabled all my firewalls, i do not own a router, it is a motorola surfboard SB5120 standard modem. i have a 1.5 megabyte modem, and my torrent has 11 seeds and 24 peers. shouldn't i be receiving a higher download rate than 6 kb/s?
Now I want you all to conceive a new color. Have fun with that.
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biggermac
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20. January 2006 @ 10:15 |
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abismu (Newbie) wrote: ok i haven't been able to read the vast amounts of responses. my light is always green, i disabled all my firewalls, i do not own a router, it is a motorola surfboard SB5120 standard modem. i have a 1.5 megabyte modem, and my torrent has 11 seeds and 24 peers. shouldn't i be receiving a higher download rate than 6 kb/s?
If the light is green you should be OK.
Now 1st, you tell me what your maximum upload speed is, and also tell me what you entered into the max upload speed" field..
> i have a 1.5 megabyte modem
The above download speed isn't having a bearing on this. Upload speed needs to be set right is the 1st thing to try...
DSL, not cable, right? USA? More info might help too, a lot more.. Operating system.. etc.
> 6 kb/s
Be accurate. you mean 6 KB/s. 6 Kb/s is 8 times slower than 6 KB/s. (crap i said this two posts ago..).
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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biggermac
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20. January 2006 @ 10:21 |
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taogamma (Newbie) wrote: its green,
anyways, i have registered in bitsoup.org.
maybe my speed settings?
ive been trying like the whole day and the highest ive seen my dload speed is at 7 kbps, most of the time its <1kbps
Did you post how many seeds? How many peers? ...Without at least one seed, no one in the circle will ever have a complete copy.
Try a popular torrent from a search engine like torrentspy. Say like 25 or more seeds and 100 peers (won't be at 1st, but read the stats before you start). Then tell me if you are limited.
And - did you ever mention to me what your maximum upload speed is?
What did you enter into the field in your torrent program?
And you mention your download speed is such and such, yet I posted how IMPORTANT upload speed is..
So when you are getting this 6 KB/s download speed, what is your KB/s upload speed?
Everyone - try a bit of quoting before you answer, so we know what post you are referencing when anwering.. It shows above this box how to tag some of this text..
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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