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How do u make BitTorrent download faster? i have been searching the answer for days.
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bobo99
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11. June 2006 @ 10:49 |
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what i read somwherew was that some internet providers read your packets .. and when they see that your using bittorrent they cap you d/l / u/l... so i went into utorrent and forced the encription... and now i get speeds of 500 kb/s + and maxed out u/l speeds as well... just a suggestion!
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Pooper360
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11. June 2006 @ 22:26 |
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Hi,
I have broadband connection [i think] and i usually get 10-20kb/s on a torrent with 70 peers and 2 seedeers and when i went to check ports 6881-6889 on shields up its said stealth and when i went to check the rest of my ports all were stealthed basically my computer doesnt exist which is good cuz idont wanna get hacked but not good for my speeds. Even though i opened 6881-6889 on my firewalls i checked on a site and it said 6881 [the default port for azureus] isnt a good port to change to a range from something like 45829-68362 or something and then open the port you choose in your firewall that didnt work either. Can anyone plz hlp me?
P.S. I dont have a router unless a SB5100 Surfboard Cable modem is a router and, my firewalls are Zone Alarm Pro and Windows XP2 Firewall and i have Azureus
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tubbana
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16. June 2006 @ 12:30 |
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that's pretty normal speed with 2 seeds ;)
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biggermac
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16. June 2006 @ 13:57 |
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> 70 peers and 2 seedeers
Pooper360, like the man said 2 seeds is pretty minimal and not a good test, even with a lot of peers like that. Find a torrent that has like 20 + seeds just to experiment with even if you don't want the darned thing.
> and when i went to check ports 6881-6889
If I were in the business of being an ISP and I wanted to avoid any legal possible hassles just because I don't like conflict, the 1st thing I do in the morning is look at who in the fxck is using ports 6881-6889 and see if it extended uploading and downling going on, and so so and screw with ports so your speed trickles when using them (well now the new BitTorrent uses up to 6899). Not that most do screw with these ports, but why take a chance - also using those might flag a warning system so they look closer at just what you're transferring. So why use them? Azureas, like BitTornado and some other torrent programs allow you to use any ports or port ranges you want. There are up to 65000 ports. Use ports, say, above 20000. i use ports in the 50000 range. Actually only one port should be needed if you download one at a time (advisable).
> I have broadband connection
broadband = anything faster than dial-up. However with DSL there can be pretty slow broadband. Yes some mopdems can be firewalls these days. Google your model number and try to find out if anyone's writtern anything about it
- the whole torrent filesharing mechanism is written so that in order to download well - you must upload well. You don't even know what your upload speed is - and to get maximum downloads the upload setting must be right -setting it too high is almost as bad as setting it too low when you start getting above your capability.
Lesson when setting upload speed: 400 kbps = 50 KB/s. (8 to one ratio - small b = bits, large B = bytes, 8 bits = 1 byte). AND only set your upload speed to 75% - 80% of your max. If your upload speed is 260 kbps, that = about 31 KB/s. 80% of 31 KB/s = about 24 KB/s. Put 24 as your upload speed (experiment later a digit higher or lower).. If you get lost, try BitTornado because it is pretty simple to know where to put the speed in (and where to change the port range).
- make sure your software firewall has "excluded" your torrent exe program. Software firewall or hardware firewall (router & some modems), a firewall is a firewall trying to protect your computer from bad incoming, so, you need to make sure they are not blocking what you need.
> my firewalls are Zone Alarm Pro and Windows XP2 Firewall
One software firewall - I am surprised , if you indeed are running two software firewalls, your Internet connection even works.
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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ok i d/l Azureus and my speeds dont even get up to 1kbps ... my download speed is about 3-4mbps (sometimes 5 on a good day) why are my speeds this low ???
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biggermac
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b1grich (Member) writes: ok i d/l Azureus and my speeds dont even get up to 1kbps ... my download speed is about 3-4mbps (sometimes 5 on a good day) why are my speeds this low ???
Hmmm let's see.. you post nothing about your setup or what you have tried or what you know.. no upload or download speed.. nothing.
It could be one of 18342 things. Try some basics:
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1) What program to use
Use a torrent program that implements a colored light system (or other system) that informs you of status as you download. The two I know that use a colored light system (I am sure there are others) are BitTornado (I use), and Azureus. This is because most problems are a firewall problem and the user will have a yellow light - you want a green light.
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(2) Firewalls.
A firewall is a blocker or filter. You can send stuff outbound (upload), however they will block most ports for incoming (think of a port as a hole for stuff to get in and go out). Firewalls are now necessary because there is so much evil stuff written that is trying to harm your computer - it is just floating around on the Internet and trying and trying to find a hole to enter your computer.
Almost everyone runs a Program that is a Firewall (software firewall). But if you use a router, by the nature of it's duties, it becomes a hardware firewall. You can use a router and also run a software firewall, but running 2 software Firewalls will probably cause problems. Running a router only can be sufficient, but you do not get the bells and whistles a software firewall gives you. Example - For an old P3 running Windows 98 computer on my home network, no software firewall is used, the router seems to do OK as a firewall. And by the way if you download torrents regularly, you know they can take hours or all day, an old $80 computer like my Windows 98 one I just mentioned, even one at 500 MHz, is plenty good enough to download torrents so you don't tie up your main computer and have response slowdowns with it. Another Example (no bells & whistles) - The router firewall won't pop up a window and say "such and such tried to infiltrate your computer", nor will it say anything about outgoing that you never used before and are just using for the 1st time (it won't ask you if it is OK go ahead and let it connect)..
Port forwarding: this means open a port for incoming. So in reference to a torrent program, you must "port forward" in a firewall that port or those ports that your torrent program uses. Now you see, if you have a router (hardware firewall) and are running a software firewall as well, you must open up the ports used in both Firewalls not just one.
Now there is another way to open up ports. This is only for software Firewalls and only affects a software firewall.. You can just exclude your torrent exe program from the firewall. All ports will be open when you run the torrent. Here is an example - if you use Windows XP's firewall, click on control-panel/firewall, and you'll see one of the commands you can click is "Exceptions". In there listed are programs like Yahoo Messenger. You need to add your torrent program to the list.
Norton anti-virus 2005 .. Since I run Norton SystemWorks 2005 which has anti-virus in it, I know the anti-virus program itself runs a firewall, but it does not call it such. It probably asked you when you 1st installed Norton if it was OK to shut off the XP firewall (or any I suppose) and you probably ticked "OK do it". So, you've got to find where to add to exclude or ignore your torrent program if you didn't tell it OK before. (look for the "options' tab to be able to change/add things).
Finally on Firewalls and ports - don't use the default ports of 6881- 6889 (or whatever they are). There are 65000 port or so. Use a port or ports range above 20000. Me, I use ports in the 55000 range. If you only do one torrent at a time (recommended) you should only need to use one port (they call it a listening port I believe) and not a field of ports. (At least one port is all I need for BitTornado.). Plus remember - if you are using a router and especially used as your only firewall, then the more ports you forward, you increase the chances of some kind of a security breach when surfing the Internet.
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(3) Download one torrent at a time (until you become good at it and recognize when 2 at a time would work better).
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(4) never use any "automatic" setting.
For Example - In BitTornado by default the max upload speed is ticked to be automatic, so instead choose slow or fast DSL/cable which then will allow you to tweak the numbers it adds in the max upload speed box (and the max uploads or connections box). (See next for what numbers).
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(5) You must upload well to be able to download well
Very important rule: The whole peer to peer torrent style network is based on people not being able to "cheat", meaning you cannot choose to not share in the upload process and still be able to download fast. So remember that you must upload well to be able to download well. The faster you upload the faster you'll download (in theory).
I'd guess that most of us in the United States who have broadband (1/2 of computer users here perhaps??) can upload at 250 Kbps (31 KB/s) either with cable or fast DSL. I have 400 Kbps (50 KB/s) upload and it's becoming more common (I have cable & 4000 Kbps down). When I had 250 Kbps up (3000 down) I did OK, really, just about as well as with my higher speeds I have now.. The DSL speeds and plans will vary a lot more than cable speeds and plans. There are different types of DSL that work a bit differently than other types. Some people have DSL then find out they only have 350 Kbps download and 80 Kbps upload or something similar. OK for surfing quickly, but for torrents, not good. Since dial up is 56 Kbps up and down, that 80 or 100 Kbps upload you might have is not that much faster than dial-up.
Don't think because you have a 2000 Kbps (2 Mbps or 225 KB/s) download rate or more means that you should be getting that when you download. Even with great upload speeds an average of 600 Kbps (75 KB/s) download speed is very good. Some really popular torrents, with seeds up the butt to like 50 seeds and 50 peers and you can get 1 Mbps download (1000 Kbps / 125 KB/s). I've gotten 2 Mbps a few times. Once I hit 3 Mbps and I do not know what was going on there.
You actually are never downloading a solid speed - what you are doing is getting uploads from others and the torrent program combines the pieces. If you are getting a fast 1 Mbps download rate (125 KB/s) you are really getting uploads from several other computer sources which like you have limited upload rates..
Speeds will always be slow when you start out, and show a yellow light. You must get enough of a torrent to be able to begin to share before your upload speed starts going up, and after your upload speed starts going up give it a few minutes and your download speed should start to increase. You should get a green light after you have several people joined and start to upload faster (say maybe 5 minutes into the torrent).
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(6) Kbps, KB/s, Mbps - wtf is all of this?
(a) Kbps and KB/s are vastly different speeds or transfer rates. It is not the slash ( / ) that makes the difference, it is the large letter "B" Vs a small letter "b". OK remember B = Bytes and b = bits. It takes 8 bits to equal a byte. Everyone always used to use Kbps (bits) and the ISPs (Internet service providers) I've seen always use (appropriately so) Kbps too. I do not know how B and Bytes got started, but now everyone is confused. Torrent programs want speed entered in KB/s and your ISP tells you in Kbps. You must convert to put a value in a torrent program. Divide Kbps by 8 to get KB/s. If you have 200 Kbps upload then for the torrent program that is 25 KB/s.
-There is one more step though before you add in your max upload speed into a torrent program.
(b) Torrent programs need to use some upload bandwidth to work right. If you entered in all of your upload speed into the max-upload-speed box in the torrent program, it I going to choke when it reaches speed up past 80% of that. A rule of thumb is to only tell a torrent program 75% to 80% of what your actual upload speed really is. This leaves the extra 20% to the torrent program which needs it to work well in. OK. If you know you have 25 KB/s upload speed, 80% of that is 20 KB/s. Put 20 in the max upload speed box.
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(7) Maximum uploads (not maximum upload speed)
Leave this to 4 unless you know 5 or 6 might be better. (experiment later once you've gotten good download speeds). I'd say don't tick it up past 4 unless you have 400 Kbps (50 KB/s) upload capability, but research more on this if you want to add more connections.
Still in reference to connections (or "max uploads" in BitTornado, and not "upload speed") I am guessing here with a slight hint of knowledge - I believe this is the number of computers you are uploading to at one time. And if for example, you upload at 25 KB/s, then 4 computers should be receiving from you about 6 KB/s each.. If you tick 5 connections then 5 computers get 5 KB/s each, however if you serve too many computers, each receiving less a chunk of good speed upload from you, it might effect the formula that the torrent programs use to determine if you are uploading well and then stiff you of download speed.
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(8) I believe older computer operating systems like the Windows 98 line does not understand UPnP. The torrent program might have UPnP turned on. Also in your router (if you use one of course) you might have UPnP on or off. It might be worth experimenting with these settings. I myself have shut off UPnP in my torrent program and in my router, and even on my Win XP computer it seemed to work well downloading a torrent.
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(9) Different torrents are going to be different speeds - even if you download two different ones in a row (one after the other was finished) and they had the exact same seeds and peers numbers, one might download at 800 Kbps (100 KB/s) and the other at 400 Kbps (50 KB/s), you never know.(
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(10) Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2) tries to stop WORMs. Before they could proliferate with many connections at one time. In so doing this SP2 fix, it limits (I think) what might be called "half connections" to 10 (research this further yourself, terminology might be wrong on my part). Unfortunately this causes havoc with older style P2P programs, and might effect your torrent speed too in such a way as that if you lose a computer in your group that was uploading to you, getting connected to another source might take a while, and you'll see your speeds vary a lot as you watch during a download. There is a so-called "fix" called the LVLord fix. Google "LVLord". This fix involves entering automatically into your registry do be careful save your registry before you run it. Put in "1000" into the field instead of 10. You will get a warning when you run this fix, and if you get afraid and abort, of course the fix won't work. If you do at some point ever be infected with a WORM, you will be a big source of the problem.
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(11) Some settings you change might not go into effect until you close your torrent program and open it up again. For example in BitTornado on the main page I can change the upload max speed setting OK and it does into effect immediately, but if I changed on a 2nd page the ports used, that wouldn't go into effect until the next time I open BitTornado.
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...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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cristifbx
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14. July 2006 @ 02:00 |
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I have a 512kb High speed Lan connection and i use bitlord and my highest speed was 20 kb/s,I tried with Azureus but it's firewalled and I can't disable the firewall.Please help me someone.
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biggermac
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cristifbx(Newbie) writes: I have a 512kb High speed Lan connection and i use bitlord and my highest speed was 20 kb/s,I tried with Azureus but it's firewalled and I can't disable the firewall.Please help me someone
Well, your going to have to post more information. Karnac the Magnificent (mind reader) died when Johnny Carson left the tonight show as host..
There are software firewalls, which you most likely run one, and then there are firewalls associated with hardware, like routers and some modems (usually a few brands of DSL modems). Also there is an off-chance your ISP could be blocking/messing-with the use of some ports, especially those known to be default for use with P2P programs, like torrents.
...Look at the post directly above yours, it's from me, a repost that has a lot of info about torrents and firewalls and other info in it that might help.
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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14. July 2006 @ 12:24 |
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OK, I think I finally figured out my 99.9% problem. Simply put I think it's my storage drive. This all started happening when my 250GB storage drive started to get full at around 225GB used. I deleted some of the larger files on that drive and was able to extract a few of the rar's that I couldn't before. I still couldn't install from the iso's that were extracted but I didn't get any read or corrupt errors during extraction. So to test this theory I used a folder on my programs partition to download a game. I didn't get the 99.9% issue this file didn't contain any rar's only image files so I mounted and installed and the game runs great no problems. I've restarted the download of the files that were giving me problems before and will update you guys when they finish.
I guess the last few sectors of the drive were the problem, any 1 know what might cause this to happen? I mean i ran disk check and there were no errors found.
Oh and in reference to the download speed questions Biggermac thanks for the kbps vs KB/s explanation that makes me feel really good about my speeds i average between 65 KB/s ~ 95 KB/s if I have at least three torrents downloading if more I've gotten up to 271 KB/s on highly seeded torrents. The funny thing is if I limit my overall upload speed to 10 KB/s I get the highest downloads. I know that qualifies me as a leecher but i've tried seeding at 30, 40, 50 and unlimited and it always makes my download speed suffer plus web browsing gets worse than dail up speeds. I started getting really good speeds once I got rid of my VOIP box, now I'm floating with all green lights and no Nat Error messages.
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biggermac
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BiGgRiE (Newbie) wrote (partial quote): I know that qualifies me as a leecher but i've tried seeding at 30, 40, 50 and unlimited and it always makes my download speed suffer plus web browsing gets worse than dail up speeds. I started getting really good speeds once I got rid of my VOIP box, now I'm floating with all green lights and no Nat Error messages.
For single torrent downloads, I am thinking you could be setting your upload speed limit too high - this too high of a setting will eventully kick in at some point, and your upload speed will suffer and then so your download speed will die off.
It's important to set your upload speed for a torent to 75% to 80% of your upload speed max you know you have. The torrent program needs some upload bandwidth to work in.. By setting 3 torrents at 10 KB/s apeice is the same as setting you upload speed for one torrent to 30 KB/s. 30 x 8 = 240 Kbps. If your upload max is like about 300 Kbps, without thinking about the math, that (30 KB/s or 240 kbps) feels like about 80% of it. If your upload speed is more like 400 kbps then an upload setting of 40 KB/s in the torrent program is 80%. If you've doneall of that and still get crappy sigle torrent download speed but do 3 at a time great, more power to you, but it's weird.
By uploading 10 KB/s 3 times for 3 torrents, you're at 30 KB/s, and so not a leech, your using up your upload bandwidth..
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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kallesson
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15. July 2006 @ 10:23 |
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hi! can someone help me cuz im only getting up too 10 kb/s. i use BitTornado and i dont have any firewall. im getting a blue light. why is it not working? plz help THX:)
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biggermac
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15. July 2006 @ 18:25 |
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kallesson, Newbie:
> hi! can someone help me cuz im only getting up too 10 kb/s. i use
> BitTornado and i dont have any firewall. im getting a blue light.
> why is it not working? plz help THX:)
I don't have BitTornado's explanations in front of me, but the Internet shows me BitTorrent's lights and it's probably the same for all torrent programs. A blue light means there are no complete copies in the grouping of file-sharers you have joined. Without at least one complete copy, no one will ever get a full download, and the closer you get to the most advanced person the slower you'll go probably.. Someone with a full copy would be seen as a "seed". The more seeds the better. Just one seed is not very good and that seed could leave at any time.
To see if you have any problems, find a real popular file - look at the stats beforehand.. if it says like 20 or 30 seeds and like 40 or more peers (peers are those like you, an incomplete copy, but sharing your upload bandwidth), go ahead and give it a shot - if it doesn't come through for you, something's wrong.
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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amac9029
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I'm sorry to do this, as i've seen many people do it...but I have a problem. I use BitLord and I tried the port forwarding thing, and I've adjusted the upload speed, but the speed is even slower now at 20-40 kb/s. I don't know if this matters, but on LimeWire my speeds have gotten to 500+ kb/s.
I'm no good at this stuff, but I really need help. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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biggermac
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> but I have a problem. I use BitLord and I tried the port
> forwarding thing, and I've adjusted the upload speed, but the
> speed is even slower now at 20-40 kb/s. I don't know if this
> matters, but on LimeWire my speeds have gotten to 500+ kb/s.
> I'm no good at this stuff, but I really need help. Any help will
> be greatly appreciated.
40 KB/s and 40 kb/s are not the same. 40 kb/s is thw same as 40 kbps. The capital letter B = bytes and the small letter b = bits. 8 bits = 1 Byte. Your torrent program at 40 KB/s = 40 x 8 = 320 kbps. )Note a capital letter K or small letter k doesn't matter, though an arguement could be made that it should).
You're saying you've adjusted your upload speed, but why not mention what it is you did adjust to, and as important, what is your max upload speed? I am not clear if you are confused on kbps and KB/s, but if you are and you've ticked the upload speed too high, then once you get up to speed, your download speed could suffer.
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amac9029
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oh yea i must of, but i adjusted the upload speed to 31 (don't wana screw up the kb/KB) i believe.
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Pazzaa
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I got an 8Mb connection, and I did that test right at the start of the thread. And got 912kb/s.
Tbh, yesterday I was doing around 90kb for one download all day. It hit 300kb/s for about 5 minutes.
Now I'm going no faster than 50.
Does anyone know how to make it faster? X_X
Oh, and the green man's showing, smiling and I'm using azerus.
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Pazzaa
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4. August 2006 @ 00:53 |
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kB* Not kb. Just read the thread above. ;)
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8 meg connection and your speeds are that slow? I also have an 8 meg connection, and typically hit 700-800 kB. Yes kB, not kb. You didnt provide any relevant info on your settings, the strength of the torrent, if ports are forwarded, so its pretty hard to help you out.
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Pazzaa
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tbh, I don't know any of that. Howdoes I find it out?
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TrickstA
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6. August 2006 @ 19:03 |
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Hey guys i'm new here n id really appretiate it if sum1 cud tell me how to get fasta downloads in a torrent download thing . as u have probably realised i aint exactly a computer wiz so ne help wud be greatly appretiated. Thanks
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6. August 2006 @ 19:09 |
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If you want help, you need to post your current torrent client settings, connection, if ports are forwarded etc etc
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TrickstA
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6. August 2006 @ 19:11 |
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ummmm i'm sorry but i'm not queit sure wat those mean. as mentiond bfor i'm not very good @ dis comp stuff
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6. August 2006 @ 19:29 |
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client settings - the settings in the thing you use to dl torrents
port forwarding - do you have a static ip? Do you see a green light in your client?
connection - how fast of connection do you have? i.e i have an 8 meg downstream connection
Do you have a firewall? If so, did you add you client to the exception list?
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TrickstA
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6. August 2006 @ 19:51 |
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Well i'm not sure wat settings ure askin for but i'm usin bit lord n it dont have a green light
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