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How do u make BitTorrent download faster? i have been searching the answer for days.
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PKGupta
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15. April 2006 @ 07:48 |
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15. April 2006 @ 08:58 |
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Yea ok im really sorry to ask this question because just about everyone else has... but i cant get my torrents to speed up. they are stuck at about 10kb/s. I have a D-Link 624 router. I have tried opening up ports but i cannot. They all remain in the stealth position. I tried to set up a static IP address but i cannot. Well i did but it does not seem to work. My IP address is 192.168.0.100??? that is the default one isnt it? I have Utorrent. i went to the dlink website thing and opened up port 6881 and many others at this IP address and the torrent doesnt seem to speed up at all. HELP! if u need more info tell me!
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15. April 2006 @ 09:18 |
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oh yea also i use PC Cillin internet security. I think my problem has to do with my router though. My router has the DHCP enabled and DNS relay enabled. i dont know what this means... thanks!
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> 192.168.0.100
PK Gupta, with my Netgear router, the address of the router is 192.168.1.1 - I thought this was standard for routers and hthe neteork they make but i am not sure now. The main computer on my home network then is 192.168.1.2, and the another is 192.168.1.3, etc. I don't have to use those numbers, the router says I can use up to 192.168.1.52 I beleive.
All of the other technical stuff you posterd here and emailed me with don't mean a ting to me. I don't understand it. I use Bitornado and basically I change two settings on the main page - I change the upload speed from "automatic" to "Slow DSL/Cable", or to "Fast DSL/Cable", which then adds numbers into the "Upload Speed" box and the Connections" box. I can then change these numbers - Upload Speed should be 80% of your upload max speed, connections just leave at 4 dor now.
If you want to use other ports thats on tghe 2nd page. You can use up to 65000 port numbers. If you change port numbers you have to close the torrent program and open it again to get the new number to take effect.
Your modem could also be firewalled (some DSL modems are). You also have a softweare fireall program running.
I can't help out any more than this.
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15. April 2006 @ 11:50 |
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alright. also when i ran shields up, i ran the file sharing option and i got: Unable to connect with NetBIOS to your computer.
All attempts to get any information from your computer have FAILED. (This is very uncommon for a Windows networking-based PC.) Relative to vulnerabilities from Windows networking, this computer appears to be VERY SECURE since it is NOT exposing ANY of its internal NetBIOS networking protocol over the Internet.
i hope this is a good thing. but i cannot forward ports... well thanks anyways i guess.
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Make sure your softare firewall "excludes" or "ignores" the exe program that runs your torrent program. Id Windows XP's built-in firewall, then go to control panel and access the firewal and look for a word i think "exclude". In there you'll see stuff like Yayahoo messenger. So it opens all ports for that program you are using connecting in that special channel or network, but all ports normal status still for the Internet.
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15. April 2006 @ 13:21 |
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Hello all,
I am new to this BitTorrent bit. I have been struggling with getting a faster Dl speed al day now with relly no avail. I have Cable internet and a LinkSys wireless router. I am attempting to Dl files with my laptop wirelessly. I went in and changed the port forward in LinkSys to 6881-6889. I went into windows firewall and added the exceptions for the portd above both tcp and for udp. I am also runing pc cillian which has a firewall. I am getting all three green bars for my download, but the speed kinda sucks with a consistent speed of 30Kbs and upload of 6Kbs. I am i missing something here??? Occasionally I may get tops 70Kbs for a short time then it falls off again to 30Kbs. What is up with this. Hook me up folks. Since WinMx was shut down my wife has been going through free music withdrawls, and life has been hell here since. Thanks folks..
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15. April 2006 @ 13:34 |
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PKGupta,
I did all of that every bit. unless I have missed something I am at my wits end here. So on the downlow, what other free music programs out there that are much much better than WinMX? At a loss here and wife is getting crazy. I think she is gonna throw a lamp at me if I don't get this right soon.
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15. April 2006 @ 13:49 |
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http://compnetworking.about.com/od/p2ppeertopeer/tp/p2pfilesharing.htm
i personally prefer limewire and morpheus. i really didnt know those top three were the top three. i tried winmx and hated it. well that was a long long time ago... but i think limewire and morpheus are the best. Morpheus actually has a bittorrent client built in. But i wouldnt recommend it for torrents only. I use limewire and for a long time i used morpheus. I think these clients are best for small music files or small video files. For large movies, or games, i definetly recommend Bit torrent clients such as Utorrent...
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justinp7 (Newbie ) wrote: Hello all, I am new to this BitTorrent bit. I have been struggling with getting a faster Dl speed al day now with relly no avail. I have Cable internet and a LinkSys wireless router. I am attempting to Dl files with my laptop wirelessly. I went in and changed the port forward in LinkSys to 6881-6889. I went into windows firewall and added the exceptions for the portd above both tcp and for udp. I am also runing pc cillian which has a firewall. I am getting all three green bars for my download, but the speed kinda sucks with a consistent speed of 30Kbs and upload of 6Kbs. I am i missing something here??? Occasionally I may get tops 70Kbs for a short time then it falls off again to 30Kbs. What is up with this. Hook me up folks. Since WinMx was shut down my wife has been going through free music withdrawls, and life has been hell here since. Thanks folks..
> changed the port forward in LinkSys to 6881-6889
This is probably not a problem, but since every one knows those ports are defaut torrent ports for every torrent program any one uses, use others. I use ports in the 50000 range. You never know if an ISP throttles back your download speed or something knowing your doing P2P type stuff.
Also rememeber one torrent at a time, unless you learn the instances where two at a time might be better - the software is written to not allow good download speeds if you don't give them your upload bandwidth - everyone must share (unlike other P2P stuff). So really if you only do one at a time then you only need to specify one port. At least that's how it is for BitTornado.
Upload speed setting - set to mo more 80% of your max upload speed - in KB/s. 8 Kbps = 1 KB/s. If i have 400 Kbps which = 50 KB/s, I then use 80% of 50 which = 40. I wouldn't use 40 for cable because your speed can slow if a lot of othercable people online at the same time as you so I'd use 35. If you have 240 Kbps upload max from your ISP, your setting of "30" (30 Kbps) is the same as 240 KB/s. That's too high - set it to 24 maybe... this could cuase a throttling back I'd think one your upload speed goes too high..
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15. April 2006 @ 14:15 |
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Changed to 50081-50089. totalld disabled windows firewall. and no change. upload set to 29Kb/s uploading at 6 Kb/s and Downloading at 7Kb/s. At a loss here. was getting 30+ and now below 10!
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> Changed to 50081-50089. totalld disabled windows firewall. and no
> change. upload set to 29Kb/s uploading at 6 Kb/s and Downloading
> 7Kb/s. At a loss here. was getting 30+ and now below 10!
Did you ever post what your upload max and download max max are? I am trying to read your mind. I am not sure how torrent savvey you are an d if you are covering all of the bases or not..
Once you changed the ports in your torrent did you close your torrent program for the new ports settings to take hold?
You just told me that you set it to 29 and before you had it on 30. If 240 Kbps is your max upload speed I didn't tell you 29. But if your max upload speed is nore like 400 Kbps then 29 KB/s or 30 KB/s could even go higher. But if you are uploading (uploading is not affected by a firewall) at 6 KB/s then not many are taking from you.
The other thing is nothing is instantaneuous. It could take you 40 minutes to build up some speed. All torrents are different - how many seeds and how many peers in this torrent? For good speeds it has to be popular.
When you begin, you have nothing. Since the software is written for you sharing and sharing well, it is punishing you for not uploading well. So when you start you have nothing to share - no piece of the pie to pass around. I hope you are giving it some time before you declare rotten speeds. Your download speed is determined by others upload speeds combined who are sendfing you a piece of the download..
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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15. April 2006 @ 14:57 |
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Ran a speed test
Speed 1.9 megabits per second
Communications 1.9 megabits per second
Storage 237.8 kilobytes per second
1MB file download 4.3 seconds
Subjective rating Great
Torrent Savvey- Today is the first day I have even tried to use Torrents. I am Using the standard BitTorrent client. Not really sure how to get you the max up and download speeds for you. I apologize for the nieveness, but I have never worked with this before. I did close the client and re-opened it after I made changes. I have over 80% of a program file to share, at current I am uploading at 6Kb/s and Downloading at 3Kb/s I have all three bars green.As far as I can tell I have no way to see howmany seeds and peers for this program. Thanks again
J
PS I have downloaded and installed uTorrent think that would make any difference than this basic version I have??
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Ran a speed test
Speed 1.9 megabits per second
Communications 1.9 megabits per second
Storage 237.8 kilobytes per second
1MB file download 4.3 seconds
Subjective rating Great
The most important setting is your upload speed. Where is your upload speed in the report?? .....Lame report. Test here. Test twice two different places: http://www.dslreports.com/stest
This report should tell you your max speed for both upload and download in two formats: Kbps and KB/s. (capital letter B = Bytes, small letter b = bits, 8 bits = 1 Byte).
Where are you geograhically?
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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dslreports.com speed test result on 2006-04-15 19:11:11 EST:
1311 / 251
Your download speed : 1311 kbps or 163.8 KB/sec.
That is 64.7% worse than an average user on bresnan.net
Your upload speed : 251 kbps or 31.3 KB/sec.
That is 39.6% worse than an average user on bresnan.net
dslreports.com speed test result on 2006-04-15 19:12:52 EST:
566 / 464
Your download speed : 566 kbps or 70.8 KB/sec.
That is 84.7% worse than an average user on bresnan.net
Your upload speed : 464 kbps or 58.1 KB/sec.
That is 11.5% better than an average user on bresnan.net
dslreports.com speed test result on 2006-04-15 19:14:31 EST:
1419 / 377
Your download speed : 1419 kbps or 177.4 KB/sec.
That is 61.7% worse than an average user on bresnan.net
Your upload speed : 377 kbps or 47.2 KB/sec.
That is 9.3% worse than an average user on bresnan.net
dslreports.com speed test result on 2006-04-15 19:17:06 EST:
1496 / 273
Your download speed : 1496 kbps or 187.1 KB/sec.
That is 59.7% worse than an average user on bresnan.net
Your upload speed : 273 kbps or 34.2 KB/sec.
That is 34.3% worse than an average user on bresnan.net
Well thus far it looks like my connection is not to stellar, but damn, usually I do fairly decent with my connection, why the change all of a sudden? I am located in Southern Wyoming, 50 miles north of Ft. Collins Colorado. Dude, thanks for your help, I suppose I am starting to grate on your last nerve, so thank you for sticking with me.
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You must be in or near Cheyenne then. I don't know who your cable service provider is. I know with satellite Internet they'll throttle back your speed if you use too much continuos download. They have to do it because their bandwidth is limited. Your overall speed looks like you might have 400 kbps up and 2000 down optimally (2000 kbps = 2 Mbps = 250 KB/s). But when you connect to torrent trackers all over the world stuff can happen on the cables from you to it, plus I don't know how well Cheyenne itself is connected..
Rogers in Canada lets users only use one specific port (not sure what it is). There is a mod called the LVLord mod you can try bjut it is designed to help windowes XP users with more standard P2P programs and networks. (Google: lvlord .... and remember to back up your registry befre using just in case. Ignore the XPwarning, add in say.. 1000 .. right now you are linited to 10 half connections (whatever that means) in Win XP - a security measure to slow WORMS down.
This is a repost in case it can help:
1) What program to use
Use a torrent program that implements a colored light system (or other system) that informs you of status as you download. The two I know that use a colored light system (I am sure there are others) are BitTornado (I use), and Azureus. This is because most problems are a firewall problem and the user will have a yellow light - you want a green light.
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(2) Firewalls.
A firewall is a blocker or filter. You can send stuff outbound (upload), however they will block most ports for incoming (think of a port as a hole for stuff to get in and go out). Firewalls are now necessary because there is so much evil stuff written that is trying to harm your computer - it is just floating around on the Internet and trying and trying to find a hole to enter your computer.
Almost everyone runs a Program that is a Firewall (software firewall). But if you use a router, by the nature of it's duties, it becomes a hardware firewall. You can use a router and also run a software firewall, but running 2 software Firewalls will probably cause problems. Running a router only can be sufficient, but you do not get the bells and whistles a software firewall gives you. Example - For an old P3 running Windows 98 computer on my home network, no software firewall is used, the router seems to do OK as a firewall. And by the way if you download torrents regularly, you know they can take hours or all day, an old $80 computer like my Windows 98 one I just mentioned, even one at 500 MHz, is plenty good enough to download torrents so you don't tie up your main computer and have response slowdowns with it. Another Example (no bells & whistles) - The router firewall won't pop up a window and say "such and such tried to infiltrate your computer", nor will it say anything about outgoing that you never used before and are just using for the 1st time (it won't ask you if it is OK go ahead and let it connect)..
Port forwarding: this means open a port for incoming. So in reference to a torrent program, you must "port forward" in a firewall that port or those ports that your torrent program uses. Now you see, if you have a router (hardware firewall) and are running a software firewall as well, you must open up the ports used in both Firewalls not just one.
Now there is another way to open up ports. This is only for software Firewalls and only affects a software firewall.. You can just exclude your torrent exe program from the firewall. All ports will be open when you run the torrent. Here is an example - if you use Windows XP's firewall, click on control-panel/firewall, and you'll see one of the commands you can click is "Exceptions". In there listed are programs like Yahoo Messenger. You need to add your torrent program to the list.
Norton anti-virus 2005 .. Since I run Norton SystemWorks 2005 which has anti-virus in it, I know the anti-virus program itself runs a firewall, but it does not call it such. It probably asked you when you 1st installed Norton if it was OK to shut off the XP firewall (or any I suppose) and you probably ticked "OK do it". So, you've got to find where to add to exclude or ignore your torrent program if you didn't tell it OK before. (look for the "options' tab to be able to change/add things).
Finally on Firewalls and ports - don't use the default ports of 6881- 6889 (or whatever they are). There are 65000 port or so. Use a port or ports range above 20000. Me, I use ports in the 55000 range. If you only do one torrent at a time (recommended) you should only need to use one port (they call it a listening port I believe) and not a field of ports. (At least one port is all I need for BitTornado.). Plus remember - if you are using a router and especially used as your only firewall, then the more ports you forward, you increase the chances of some kind of a security breach when surfing the Internet.
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(3) Download one torrent at a time (until you become good at it and recognize when 2 at a time would work better).
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(4) never use any "automatic" setting.
For Example - In BitTornado by default the max upload speed is ticked to be automatic, so instead choose slow or fast DSL/cable which then will allow you to tweak the numbers it adds in the max upload speed box (and the max uploads or connections box). (See next for what numbers).
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(5) You must upload well to be able to download well
Very important rule: The whole peer to peer torrent style network is based on people not being able to "cheat", meaning you cannot choose to not share in the upload process and still be able to download fast. So remember that you must upload well to be able to download well. The faster you upload the faster you'll download (in theory).
I'd guess that most of us in the United States who have broadband (1/2 of computer users here perhaps??) can upload at 250 Kbps (31 KB/s) either with cable or fast DSL. I have 400 Kbps (50 KB/s) upload and it's becoming more common (I have cable & 4000 Kbps down). When I had 250 Kbps up (3000 down) I did OK, really, just about as well as with my higher speeds I have now.. The DSL speeds and plans will vary a lot more than cable speeds and plans. There are different types of DSL that work a bit differently than other types. Some people have DSL then find out they only have 350 Kbps download and 80 Kbps upload or something similar. OK for surfing quickly, but for torrents, not good. Since dial up is 56 Kbps up and down, that 80 or 100 Kbps upload you might have is not that much faster than dial-up.
Don't think because you have a 2000 Kbps (2 Mbps or 225 KB/s) download rate or more means that you should be getting that when you download. Even with great upload speeds an average of 600 Kbps (75 KB/s) download speed is very good. Some really popular torrents, with seeds up the butt to like 50 seeds and 50 peers and you can get 1 Mbps download (1000 Kbps / 125 KB/s). I've gotten 2 Mbps a few times. Once I hit 3 Mbps and I do not know what was going on there.
You actually are never downloading a solid speed - what you are doing is getting uploads from others and the torrent program combines the pieces. If you are getting a fast 1 Mbps download rate (125 KB/s) you are really getting uploads from several other computer sources which like you have limited upload rates..
Speeds will always be slow when you start out, and show a yellow light. You must get enough of a torrent to be able to begin to share before your upload speed starts going up, and after your upload speed starts going up give it a few minutes and your download speed should start to increase. You should get a green light after you have several people joined and start to upload faster (say maybe 5 minutes into the torrent).
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(6) Kbps, KB/s, Mbps - wtf is all of this?
(a) Kbps and KB/s are vastly different speeds or transfer rates. It is not the slash ( / ) that makes the difference, it is the large letter "B" Vs a small letter "b". OK remember B = Bytes and b = bits. It takes 8 bits to equal a byte. Everyone always used to use Kbps (bits) and the ISPs (Internet service providers) I've seen always use (appropriately so) Kbps too. I do not know how B and Bytes got started, but now everyone is confused. Torrent programs want speed entered in KB/s and your ISP tells you in Kbps. You must convert to put a value in a torrent program. Divide Kbps by 8 to get KB/s. If you have 200 Kbps upload then for the torrent program that is 25 KB/s.
-There is one more step though before you add in your max upload speed into a torrent program.
(b) Torrent programs need to use some upload bandwidth to work right. If you entered in all of your upload speed into the max-upload-speed box in the torrent program, it I going to choke when it reaches speed up past 80% of that. A rule of thumb is to only tell a torrent program 75% to 80% of what your actual upload speed really is. This leaves the extra 20% to the torrent program which needs it to work well in. OK. If you know you have 25 KB/s upload speed, 80% of that is 20 KB/s. Put 20 in the max upload speed box.
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(7) Maximum uploads (not maximum upload speed)
Leave this to 4 unless you know 5 or 6 might be better. (experiment later once you've gotten good download speeds). I'd say don't tick it up past 4 unless you have 400 Kbps (50 KB/s) upload capability, but research more on this if you want to add more connections.
Still in reference to connections (or "max uploads" in BitTornado, and not "upload speed") I am guessing here with a slight hint of knowledge - I believe this is the number of computers you are uploading to at one time. And if for example, you upload at 25 KB/s, then 4 computers should be receiving from you about 6 KB/s each.. If you tick 5 connections then 5 computers get 5 KB/s each, however if you serve too many computers, each receiving less a chunk of good speed upload from you, it might effect the formula that the torrent programs use to determine if you are uploading well and then stiff you of download speed.
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(8) I believe older computer operating systems like the Windows 98 line does not understand UPnP. The torrent program might have UPnP turned on. Also in your router (if you use one of course) you might have UPnP on or off. It might be worth experimenting with these settings. I myself have shut off UPnP in my torrent program and in my router, and even on my Win XP computer it seemed to work well downloading a torrent.
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(9) Different torrents are going to be different speeds - even if you download two different ones in a row (one after the other was finished) and they had the exact same seeds and peers numbers, one might download at 800 Kbps (100 KB/s) and the other at 400 Kbps (50 KB/s), you never know.(
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(10) Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2) tries to stop WORMs. Before they could proliferate with many connections at one time. In so doing this SP2 fix, it limits (I think) what might be called "half connections" to 10 (research this further yourself, terminology might be wrong on my part). Unfortunately this causes havoc with older style P2P programs, and might effect your torrent speed too in such a way as that if you lose a computer in your group that was uploading to you, getting connected to another source might take a while, and you'll see your speeds vary a lot as you watch during a download. There is a so-called "fix" called the LVLord fix. Google "LVLord". This fix involves entering automatically into your registry do be careful save your registry before you run it. Put in "1000" into the field instead of 10. You will get a warning when you run this fix, and if you get afraid and abort, of course the fix won't work. If you do at some point ever be infected with a WORM, you will be a big source of the problem.
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(11) Some settings you change might not go into effect until you close your torrent program and open it up again. For example in BitTornado on the main page I can change the upload max speed setting OK and it does into effect immediately, but if I changed on a 2nd page the ports used, that wouldn't go into effect until the next time I open BitTornado.
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Biggermac you seem to know alot about p2p networks, basically I'm just wanting to know which out of dynamic or a fixed/static IP address's worked best or not at all for P2P as I'm getting an internet connection just for my room and I don't want to be tied up to a 12 month contract with really low download speeds,
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i have regular bittorent and my speed are usually like 15 - 54 for download upload max was 46 i think but im wondering if i seed a lot will it make a difference in my speed for getting what i need faster?
anyways i just want to know how to make my bittorrent run way faster
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on most BT Clients the common problem is an Upload speed to high ( leaving no banwidth for DOwnload) every Company has there upload speeds capped at different settings, i recomand a site like http://dslreports.com to check your bandwidth limits.
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ok using comcast cable with the highspeed internet included.. my bit lights turning yellow and downloding at 2 kbs and i know my interent is fast becasue on kazaa and lime wire and such i can get threw a dl soooo quickly.. itsj ust some files i cannot seem to find on limewire becasue there all these 128kb rar files that just send me a virus report when i try opening them.. im also using a router too.. anyone here no the settings to open up the ports or w/e to make my bit light UP IN GREEEEN :) thanks
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hacker26, you have to log into your router (which is a hardware firewall) using a web-like address, and normally you have to enter in an ID and a password. In there should be a menu,.If you had a Netgear router it would be a snap because the menu is distinct and clear. "Port Forwarding" is one of the menu elements, which is pretty clear. But with some other router brands it is not so clear how to proceed.
And i don't immiediately grok what "w/e" means, but I do grok you need ports forwarded. Call the manufacturer of your router it might still have a simple default ID and password (not changed). Or you can try and Google for it.
Also I'd use a torrent program that allows you to change ports used and get away from the standard used BitTorrent ports (6881-6899??). Try something in the 50000 range. And normally you download one torrent at a time and thus need only one port used.
There are no guarantees here on downloads. They could be bogus too. Also you have to wait to get a green light and faster speeds - it builds up - most important is your upload speed setting - it should be no more than 80% of your known max upload speed - for cab;le even a bit less becauzse your speed on cable can fluctuate (I have Comcast myself). If you try and leech and not give any upload bandwidth, the software labels you a leech and thus you will not get any kind of decent download speed. (in theory, the better you upload the better you can download).
And don't forget that you probably run a software firewall too..
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ok once i find my speeds how will that help me in making bittorrent download faster?????
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> ok once i find my speeds how will that help me in making
> bittorrent download faster?????
That is a real can-of-worms question you're asking there. I have no idea how much you already know about torrents, or just computers in general.
If you'd just scan up this page about 6 posts from this one, I reposted some helpful tips so that you can better understand what goes on. If you have a more specific question after you read that then post again..
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 20. April 2006 @ 07:58
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