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How do u make BitTorrent download faster? i have been searching the answer for days.
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@ Renald2
If your connection is maxing out on http downloads at 40kB/s then that is your line maximum.. If you can get 37-40 on torrents you are running at your full capacity. The limit is set by your isp, and there is no way around it (despite what some BS kids will have you believe)
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19. April 2007 @ 10:27 |
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oh, sure you can do it, jan. you just have to be god.
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Originally posted by Renald2: Here are my results, the mirror used is about 1500 km from me:
http://www.speedtest.net/result/115229828.png
Let me re-state my speed with BitTornado after biggermac's reply:
d/l speed = maximum between 32-37 kB/s and max upload speed 12-14 kB/s
So can the 20 kB/s unused or so that is left be as a result of my poor upload speed?, Can i adjust BitTornado to just upload and not download so i can get beter d/l speed, i would like to give more, if i only can. In general what do you think of my speed results, are they looking quite accurate.
One thing i should mention is that my internet browser download speeds from http sites is giving me 40 kB/s max, there u/l rates is not an issue in throttling my d/l rate down? Or maybe this is measured in a totally different way.
Just to make sure, if you use Windows XP, it's going to turn it's own firewall on, unless you specifically told it to not run it's firewall. Other programs that run a firewall can be anti-virus programs - I've used both Norton/Symantec SystemWorks and now on my Vista machine it has Norton Internet Security, and both run a firewall without necessarily calling it a firewall, however they ask permission to turn off Windows' firewall when 1st used.
In BitTornado, you have 3 boxes on the main page.
-The upload speed box, by default, says "Automatic". You do not want this. Choose slow or fast DSL and then you can adjust the upload speed (in KB/s). Now, if I am reading your results right, your upload speed is 82 kbps. Honestly, that is not much better than dial-up speeds. You really shouldn't be doing the torrent thing, or get an old cheap P3, even one using Windows 98 SE or better is OK, and dedicate it to be your torrent workhorse so it can go day and night(need a router for a home network). But if you surf the Internet with your main computer when the other is BitTornadoing, it probably is using up all of your download speed, and so your Website page loading is going to be ssllooww.
-And in your case choose slow DSL because it also will tick max uploads to 4 I think - this is the maximum number of file-sharers you are going to upload to with parts of what you are receiving. You do not want to raise this up (4) because your connection is so slow and you would be further splitting up your upload speed between them.
- download speed, this you can leave alone even if it says unlimited, because it can't go any faster than you have. You could put 10000 as download max, it won't get there. The only reason to change download speed would be to limit your torrent download speed because you want extra download speed left over to do something else with.
Your http downloads are not hampered by upload speed, you are correct - and also, it's one source, while torrents you are actually download slow but from several sources and each you get a few kB/s from and so what you see as total download speed is adding those up. 40 kB/s = 320 kbps. Try running speed tests from here: http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest using a close by city, then one farther away, you might see different results, perhaps a bit better upload speed. Then set your upload max in BitTornado to 80% of max upload speed - if your upload speed ends up 120 kbps, 20% is almost 25 kbps, so try 95 kbps which = about 12 kB/s - put 12 in BitTornado's upload box, though you're fudging up a little, you can try 12, 13, 14 and see.. --- But in general, if your upload speed really is 82 kbps then that's so slow these days, and even if 120 kbps up that is still slow.
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19. April 2007 @ 15:14 |
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Biggermac you keep telling you have to set your upl speed to 80 % off my max i understand that now ty very much. But what about my dwld speed??
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Originally posted by FireComet: Biggermac you keep telling you have to set your upl speed to 80 % off my max i understand that now ty very much. But what about my dwld speed??
C'mon.. I covered that in the post directly above yours!
It says:
- download speed bla bla bla
But to be more clear - whatever you put, the most you can get is your max download rate, unless you put less than your max download rate. ...Put double your max, whatever, you will get, at best, your max. But usually less than most users' max, because a lot of people have 3 and 4 Mbps download capability (4 Mbps same as 4000 kbps or 500 KB/s). There is no penalty for adding in over your max download --- the program uses about 20% of your UPLOAD speed to work in, not download speed.
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Thanks Biggermac for your comprehensive answer.I'll try working with the settings like you described, currrently i am actually very happy with the results i'm getting. (sometimes it uploads at 3-4 kB/s and other times at 13/14 kB/s.(uploads can always be better, i know that my limit here is simply that it's limited. Download is almost consistent between 33-37, not below 30. So considering my adsl speed i'm actually quite happy with what i'm getting here. Thanks for your help. :)!
I'm running the client without any protection and firewall for best results, using msconfig to untick certain services that run. When i'm finished i tick them all again restart and run a virus scan afterwards....alright not really always, but that's the plan. I know it's risky, but so far so good!
Thanks everyone else too.
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Originally posted by Renald2: Thanks Biggermac for your comprehensive answer.I'll try working with the settings like you described, currrently i am actually very happy with the results i'm getting. (sometimes it uploads at 3-4 kB/s and other times at 13/14 kB/s.(uploads can always be better, i know that my limit here is simply that it's limited. Download is almost consistent between 33-37, not below 30. So considering my adsl speed i'm actually quite happy with what i'm getting here. Thanks for your help. :)!
I'm running the client without any protection and firewall for best results, using msconfig to untick certain services that run. When i'm finished i tick them all again restart and run a virus scan afterwards....alright not really always, but that's the plan. I know it's risky, but so far so good!
Thanks everyone else too.
Well yes, in those torrents that aren't popular, you won't be passing much over to others. If people start coming in after you it seems to me then that you can start passing down stuff you already have. Even when connected to others, they leave and your speeds vary, then you pick up someone else, etc etc.
When doing torrents that only have one seed or a few, remeber a seed is a complete copy and if the seed quits, you all left in the filesharing circle will only get as high as the guy who has the most of the torrent, but you'll all be stuck at like say, 99%, if that highest guy was 99%.
Occasionally a seed is a T3 line or whatever and can upload to you like crazy, if you are alone in the circle..
And all torrents can be different even if you had the exact same number of seeds and peers. I used to be happy if i could average 500 kbps (about 62 kB/s) because some torrents are really slow, while with a few other popular ones, hitting 2 Mbps was achieveable.
...I used to use a Windows 98 SE Dell P3 (600 MHz) if it was going to take a long time because I didn't want the slowdown associated with multi-tasking my main computer.
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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Originally posted by FireComet: Biggermac you keep telling you have to set your upl speed to 80 % off my max i understand that now ty very much. But what about my dwld speed??
C'mon.. I covered that in the post directly above yours!
It says:
- download speed bla bla bla
But to be more clear -..............
Wow man Biggermac im totaly sorry 4 that and i apologize. I totally made a fool out of myself. I dont know how that happened that i didnt read that. Maybe cause i was kinda in a hurry to undo my mistake be4. Wen i posted that long cmmnt and every1 including mod reacted angry.
Then i just wanted to make my last point of that long "text speech" and ask a normal question of 2 sentences. And i think in a rush i just remembered Aussies last reply "oh sure you can do it jan, you just have to be a god". So its not like im lazy and always not read your replys Biggermac. But you posted just a couple of hours be4 me. So maybe i overlooked it cos i was buzy hurrying to undo my mistake but i just made a fool out of myself huh...lol. I apologize again my friend.
Wow man dude you're still really kind and explained everything so well, i think i understand almost everything now. So it doesnt matter wether i set my dwld speed to 20.000 or 50.000 just as long as its higher then my max dwld speed. That is if i want to use all off my bandwith/intrnett speed 4 Bitcomet or another dwld prgram. But if i know that my max dwld speed is 963 KB/sec and i set it on Bicomet to 693 KB/sec it means i leave 300 KB/sec 4 browsing on intrnet or an online game or whatever. All pieces off th puzzle are falling to its place 4 me now.
Like a couple of days ago i seeded this one torrnt. And it immediately went to 101 KB/sec orso and stayed there. So i said to myself is that the max? Then i tried adding another seed to see if it goes over 100 KB/sec. But it devided just like you said be4 and the other 1 went to 23KB/sec and the 1st one went to about 75/77 KB/sec orso. And then i remembered that wen i'd done the speedtest it said my max upl was like 93 KB/sec (still i think those Orange baastards are ripping me damnit).
Many many tnx Biggermac and all the other helpul guys like Valium etc. I've learned alot now but i can still learn some more from you guys
keep it up dudes!
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ValiumMm
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20. April 2007 @ 18:14 |
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no worries, happy to help
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22. April 2007 @ 00:19 |
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Originally posted by FireComet: Wen i posted that long cmmnt and every1 including mod reacted angry.
- not angry, speechless at so much misspelt crap on one page. I see your current reply is not exactly legible either. Less rushing on your keyboard and more coffee needed methinks
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Originally posted by FireComet: Wen i posted that long cmmnt and every1 including mod reacted angry.
- not angry, speechless at so much misspelt crap on one page. I see your curent reply is not exactly legible either. Less rushing on your keyboard and more coffee needed methinks
it is spelt current, not curent,
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My solitary spelling mistake corrected. Let's now get this thread back on track with no more text speak or careless typing or other sillyness.
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23. April 2007 @ 16:08 |
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can someone tell me were i can get an accelerater to speed up this downloading on bittorrent please im about to go nut its been downloadin for 2 days now man and it looks like its slowin down
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ValiumMm
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23. April 2007 @ 21:48 |
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Ok im going to download some stuff on mIRC and print screen to show all of your mofos how shit torrents are.
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**warez info removed**
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**more warez info removed**
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ValiumMm
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**more warez info removed**
here is another to back it up and show you thats its consistent and *bleep* ownage and PWNS torrents.
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Again with the mIRC stuff. Yada yada yada yada yada.
A good alternative for files is also Usenet. "Alternative", not the only way.. Some people swear by the old style P2P networks too like Bearshare (etc)..
I do remember years ago mIRC and the fuxked up files I'd got.. A Huckleberry Hound Cartoon instead of a movie clip. Files that didn't work. Virus laden.. Maybe it's changed.
...But why are you coming into this pro-torrent forum designed to support torrent users and lashing out ..Why not go where you're very much welcome - to a pro-mIRC forum, and you all can pull on each other's members in mutual admiration, for being so darned smart compared to those torrent using idiots.
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ValiumMm
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I use P2P aswell but im just showing some people an alternative for faster speeds. Yes it might not be as big but if you can find the same file you might aswell go with it because of the speeds and otherwise P2P is still great and highly reccommended.
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i hav an 128 KBps broadband connection a home using an adsl router. the router is BILLION 5200S. i am using bit torrent for quite some time but i never get download speeds of more than 15 KBps(total).. can anyone tell me wat is the prob n how to solve it? is it possible to hav more download speeds for an 128 KBps connection?? plz help..
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FireComet
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Originally posted by lilazn7: There are multiple torrent sites..
Search on google: 'torrents'
www.torrentspy.com
www.mininova.org
www.suprnova.org
www.demonoid.org (if u need an invite just ask me)
www.isohunt.com
Those are just some..
Could some other people list some sites to help this guy?
OOPS, i've left - NO Invite trading here
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28. May 2007 @ 20:16 |
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i got bit torrent it is taking forever to download my movies is there any way that i can speed it up
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biggermac
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Originally posted by stormy90: i got bit torrent it is taking forever to download my movies is there any way that i can speed it up
I feel a bit slow today. What can I do to feel better?
So after you run out opf fingers counting out the different answers that may apply, start counting with toes.
Here is an old post from over a year ago I'm reposting. Maybe it will help:
1) What program to use
Use a torrent program that implements a colored light system (or other system) that informs you of status as you download. The two I know that use a colored light system (I am sure there are others) are BitTornado (I use), and Azureus. This is because most problems are a firewall problem and the user will have a yellow light - you want a green light.
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(2) Firewalls.
A firewall is a blocker or filter. You can send stuff outbound (upload), however they will block most ports for incoming (think of a port as a hole for stuff to get in and go out). Firewalls are now necessary because there is so much evil stuff written that is trying to harm your computer - it is just floating around on the Internet and trying and trying to find a hole to enter your computer.
Almost everyone runs a Program that is a firewall (software firewall). But if you use a router, by the nature of it's duties, it becomes a hardware firewall. You can use a router and also run a software firewall, but running 2 software Firewalls will probably cause problems. Running a router only can be sufficient, but you do not get the bells and whistles a software firewall gives you. Example - For an old P3 running Windows 98 computer on my home network, no software firewall is used, the router seems to do OK as a firewall. And by the way if you download torrents regularly, you know they can take hours or all day, an old $80 computer like my Windows 98 one I just mentioned, even one at 500 MHz, is plenty good enough to download torrents so you don't tie up your main computer and have response slowdowns with it. Another Example (no bells & whistles) - The router firewall won't pop up a window and say "such and such tried to infiltrate your computer", nor will it say anything about outgoing that you never used before and are just using for the 1st time (it won't ask you if it is OK go ahead and let it connect)..
Port forwarding: this means open a port for incoming. So in reference to a torrent program, you must "port forward" in a firewall that port or those ports that your torrent program uses. Now you see, if you have a router (hardware firewall) and are running a software firewall as well, you must open up the ports used in both Firewalls not just one.
Now there is another way to open up ports. This is only for software Firewalls and only affects a software firewall.. You can just exclude your torrent exe program from the firewall. All ports will be open when you run the torrent. Here is an example - if you use Windows XP's firewall, click on control-panel/firewall, and you'll see one of the commands you can click is "Exceptions". In there listed are programs like Yahoo Messenger. You need to add your torrent program to the list.
Norton anti-virus 2005 .. Since I run Norton SystemWorks 2005 which has anti-virus in it, I know the anti-virus program itself runs a firewall, but it does not call it such. It probably asked you when you 1st installed Norton if it was OK to shut off the XP firewall (or any I suppose) and you probably ticked "OK do it". So, you've got to find where to add to exclude or ignore your torrent program if you didn't tell it OK before. (look for the "options' tab to be able to change/add things).
Finally on Firewalls and ports - don't use the default ports of 6881- 6889 (or whatever they are). There are 65000 port or so. Use a port or ports range above 20000. Me, I use ports in the 55000 range. If you only do one torrent at a time (recommended) you should only need to use one port (they call it a listening port I believe) and not a field of ports. (At least one port is all I need for BitTornado.). Plus remember - if you are using a router and especially used as your only firewall, then the more ports you forward, you increase the chances of some kind of a security breach when surfing the Internet.
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(3) Download one torrent at a time (until you become good at it and recognize when 2 at a time would work better).
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(4) never use any "automatic" setting.
For Example - In BitTornado by default the max upload speed is ticked to be automatic, so instead choose slow or fast DSL/cable which then will allow you to tweak the numbers it adds in the max upload speed box (and the max uploads or connections box). (See next for what numbers).
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(5) You must upload well to be able to download well
Very important rule: The whole peer to peer torrent style network is based on people not being able to "cheat", meaning you cannot choose to not share in the upload process and still be able to download fast. So remember that you must upload well to be able to download well. The faster you upload the faster you'll download (in theory).
I'd guess that most of us in the United States who have broadband (1/2 of computer users here perhaps??) can upload at 250 Kbps (31 KB/s) either with cable or fast DSL. I have 400 Kbps (50 KB/s) upload and it's becoming more common (I have cable & 4000 Kbps down). When I had 250 Kbps up (3000 down) I did OK, really, just about as well as with my higher speeds I have now.. The DSL speeds and plans will vary a lot more than cable speeds and plans. There are different types of DSL that work a bit differently than other types. Some people have DSL then find out they only have 350 Kbps download and 80 Kbps upload or something similar. OK for surfing quickly, but for torrents, not good. Since dial up is 56 Kbps up and down, that 80 or 100 Kbps upload you might have is not that much faster than dial-up.
Don't think because you have a 2000 Kbps (2 Mbps or 225 KB/s) download rate or more means that you should be getting that when you download. Even with great upload speeds an average of 600 Kbps (75 KB/s) download speed is very good. Some really popular torrents, with seeds up the butt to like 50 seeds and 50 peers and you can get 1 Mbps download (1000 Kbps / 125 KB/s). I've gotten 2 Mbps a few times. Once I hit 3 Mbps and I do not know what was going on there.
You actually are never downloading a solid speed - what you are doing is getting uploads from others and the torrent program combines the pieces. If you are getting a fast 1 Mbps download rate (125 KB/s) you are really getting uploads from several other computer sources which like you have limited upload rates..
Speeds will always be slow when you start out, and show a yellow light. You must get enough of a torrent to be able to begin to share before your upload speed starts going up, and after your upload speed starts going up give it a few minutes and your download speed should start to increase. You should get a green light after you have several people joined and start to upload faster (say maybe 5 minutes into the torrent).
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(6) Kbps, KB/s, Mbps - wtf is all of this?
(a) Kbps and KB/s are vastly different speeds or transfer rates. It is not the slash ( / ) that makes the difference, it is the large letter "B" Vs a small letter "b". OK remember B = Bytes and b = bits. It takes 8 bits to equal a byte. Everyone always used to use Kbps (bits) and the ISPs (Internet service providers) I've seen always use (appropriately so) Kbps too. I do not know how B and Bytes got started, but now everyone is confused. Torrent programs want speed entered in KB/s and your ISP tells you in Kbps. You must convert to put a value in a torrent program. Divide Kbps by 8 to get KB/s. If you have 200 Kbps upload then for the torrent program that is 25 KB/s.
-There is one more step though before you add in your max upload speed into a torrent program.
(b) Torrent programs need to use some upload bandwidth to work right. If you entered in all of your upload speed into the max-upload-speed box in the torrent program, it I going to choke when it reaches speed up past 80% of that. A rule of thumb is to only tell a torrent program 75% to 80% of what your actual upload speed really is. This leaves the extra 20% to the torrent program which needs it to work well in. OK. If you know you have 25 KB/s upload speed, 80% of that is 20 KB/s. Put 20 in the max upload speed box.
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(7) Maximum uploads (not maximum upload speed)
Leave this to 4 unless you know 5 or 6 might be better. (experiment later once you've gotten good download speeds). I'd say don't tick it up past 4 unless you have 400 Kbps (50 KB/s) upload capability, but research more on this if you want to add more connections.
Still in reference to connections (or "max uploads" in BitTornado, and not "upload speed") I am guessing here with a slight hint of knowledge - I believe this is the number of computers you are uploading to at one time. And if for example, you upload at 25 KB/s, then 4 computers should be receiving from you about 6 KB/s each.. If you tick 5 connections then 5 computers get 5 KB/s each, however if you serve too many computers, each receiving less a chunk of good speed upload from you, it might effect the formula that the torrent programs use to determine if you are uploading well and then stiff you of download speed.
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(8) I believe older computer operating systems like the Windows 98 line does not understand UPnP. The torrent program might have UPnP turned on. Also in your router (if you use one of course) you might have UPnP on or off. It might be worth experimenting with these settings. I myself have shut off UPnP in my torrent program and in my router, and even on my Win XP computer it seemed to work well downloading a torrent.
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(9) Different torrents are going to be different speeds - even if you download two different ones in a row (one after the other was finished) and they had the exact same seeds and peers numbers, one might download at 800 Kbps (100 KB/s) and the other at 400 Kbps (50 KB/s), you never know.(
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(10) Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2) tries to stop WORMs. Before they could proliferate with many connections at one time. In so doing this SP2 fix, it limits (I think) what might be called "half connections" to 10 (research this further yourself, terminology might be wrong on my part). Unfortunately this causes havoc with older style P2P programs, and might effect your torrent speed too in such a way as that if you lose a computer in your group that was uploading to you, getting connected to another source might take a while, and you'll see your speeds vary a lot as you watch during a download. There is a so-called "fix" called the LVLord fix. Google "LVLord". This fix involves entering automatically into your registry do be careful save your registry before you run it. Put in "1000" into the field instead of 10. You will get a warning when you run this fix, and if you get afraid and abort, of course the fix won't work. If you do at some point ever be infected with a WORM, you will be a big source of the problem.
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(11) Some settings you change might not go into effect until you close your torrent program and open it up again. For example in BitTornado on the main page I can change the upload max speed setting OK and it does into effect immediately, but if I changed on a 2nd page the ports used, that wouldn't go into effect until the next time I open BitTornado.
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ok... didnt want your life story.
pretty much people go look for private torrents. You will get much faster downloads but u also have to upload. u might not want to upload but trust me. u will download at max
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I have read many posts and tried different things. Apparently, I have not found a solution to my problem! Here's the deal:
My connection speed is 768Kb download/192Kb upload (96KB/24KB)
I have a USB dsl modem (not router) (Sagem F@st800).
I'm using μTorrent.
So, I have set my upload limit to 19KB (about 79% of my total upload speed) and my download limit to 50KB. I can say that I am a "good" seeder. All finished downloads have a ratio of 1.5 - 5. I even have an 11 and a 27 ratio in two of my torrents.
I have also set a standard port (55539) and checked that it's open. (μTorrent gives you this option, to check the status of a port). My "colour" is also green, meaning that my connection works fine.
I currently download only one file and have limited my uploads to 4. Oh, I forgot. My firewall is ZoneAlarm, where μTorrent has full privileges.
I was downloading with 3-5KBs. Now I'm downloading with 8-13KBs. I don't know if I was just lucky, or if the above steps have helped. Still, that's not remotely good for my connection's "capability".
I don't know what else to add. Just that when using μTorrent (or any other torrent client that is) all other Internet activity freezes! I can't do any serious browsing. It's like I have a dial-up connection. When I close mTorrent everything works fine. It's like μTorrent "sucks" all my bandwidth. (But, unfortunately, not really using it).
Any help would be *really* appreciated!
Greetings from Greece! :)
And thanks in advance!!
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