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dejahboi
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2. April 2006 @ 17:27 |
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i understand that concept..bout the each console must be compared side by side and it'll determine which is good or not..but i was told there was a convention in l.a, ca ... saying that both consoles were side by side and the ps3 whooped xbox like a charm, but i dont know, also, yeah, ps2 dissapointed me for that generation but since i guess sony found out they got whooped, i think the new system is gonna redeem sony big time, but anyways, yeah, hopefully the 360 might pull off, but we'll see
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2. April 2006 @ 17:29 |
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i hate being the last post on a page. if any of you didnt read my last post check back the the last page.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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2. April 2006 @ 18:49 |
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[Social commentary]
Have any of you stopped to think that there is no 'best' console? It's all in what a person likes that makes one or another the best for them no matter what a bunch of stats or fanboys say. Can't you be happy that you like what you like for your reasons and let others like what they like for their reasons?
This reminds me of the old "Ford vs. Chevy" debate. They're both trucks, they both work - it's personal preference.
Or Intel vs. AMD. They're both good processors, no question about it.
How about ATI vs. nVidia? Same thing.
It amazes me that folks get so bent out of shape because someone doesn't like what they like. Take a step back and you'll see how silly all this is. To each their own guys. To each their own.
I've been here over three years and have seen nearly every single 'this vs. this' thread get closed because folks can't seem to grasp what I've just said.
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2. April 2006 @ 20:24 |
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accually ford engines dont last much longer than 150000 miles.
amd's processor structure is superior to intel's proccessor based of of a 386 core (we are at x86 or 1086 now), and amd's clock speed of 2ghz is equile to an intels 4ghz
ati and nvidia are pretty close, but nvidia is better with shaders, detail, load times, and reflections.
haha sorry, i just wanted to insert my two cents there, but i understand what you mean. best is an opinion excluding technical stats. the ps3 takes the tech but some people just prefer xbox anyways. i dont have anything agaisnt xbox, just the company that runs it, have you seen the anti trust violations and obscenities they love to do? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_antitrust_case
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"its just a matter of opinion"
(quote from: Primus - The Heckler)
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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2. April 2006 @ 22:03 |
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I'm excited to see what new franchises the next-gen has in store and I'm excited to play new installments of existing franchises that I love.
the allmighty mudearies...
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dejahboi
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2. April 2006 @ 22:43 |
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well i see what you guys mean, but yeah i have to wait until the good games come out to show each consoles performance, but already i feel theres a doubt with the xbox ... yeah....thats what i think so far
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zelda64
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2. April 2006 @ 23:41 |
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anubis do you actualy read my posts?
I have said that before. PS3 in this instance would be the slightly more powerful console but it doesnt mean its the best. The games do. (3DO was a good example of that).
Anyway, Xbox 360 is doing very bad in Japan as expected, because (1) it has no good Japanese titles at the moment, except Dead or Alive and (2) Microsoft is an American company. However as Peter Moore has already claimed it was expected (but not to this extent) becuase the good release titles of Ninty nine nights, a Devil May Cry type game (cant remember the name) and Final Fantasy where ment to be launch titles. Unfortunatly they got delayed hense the bad sales, but Microsoft are going to re-release the console in Japan, with the launch of these games in July. This could have an impact on the PS3 but not enough to claim victory because no matter what Microsoft do they are still American.
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3. April 2006 @ 11:54 |
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zelda, let me state this again as i did on the last page if you didnt read..
games are not part of a system, therefore they cannot make it better. the console is as good as its gunna get. say "the ps3/x360 game lineup is better or looks better"
and yes, the japanese are loyal people and would rather stick to their own companies, but 2 games out of them all is not enough to change their minds.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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lxhotboy
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3. April 2006 @ 13:52 |
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Asking or saying which system is the best or better is diff from which is the most powerful. Well i understand where you guys are coming from. The games do no affect the actuall power of system. Games actually do make a system better than the next. The "BEST" system is an opinion but most will always say the one with the library of games that suits them the best. Now if someone says the most powerful system then games dont affect that, I agree with you annubis in that sense. "BEST SYSTEM" really in a definition term means "overall" not most powerful system. Meaning you take all things into account and then give an overall evaluation of the consoles. When someone is asking which is the better system it can be compehended in more than one manner. Depends on whether they are talking purely on the sytems or just overall. When you are asking which may be better the games available do count towards something.
Honestly they account for more than the systems true power. When i think of which is the better system or best to me there is more to take into account than just what is under the hood.
1. The systems actuall true potential or power for gaming
2. What developers are going to be working with the console?
3. What specific games are going to be released for the console?
4. How well is the company doing in the videogaming market and
will it continue on a dependable path?
(You dont want to buy a system on hype and then it turn out to be
like the jaguar, cd-i, saturn)
5. How long will the system be able to survive. Future potential.
6. Besides gaming, what else does the system offer?
7. Past success in the market and gaming titles offerred.
Anyone got anything else, i know i missed something??
Whenever someone ask me in the past what system was better, which is of opinion of course, The games are the biggest factor to me. I always ask do you mean more powerful of actual best system. That is why most of the time in the past people would say the xbox was the better than the ps2 and i would say no not really. Just like with a car, It does not matter the actuall horsepower. You have to look at the gas mileage and other things should also be taken into consideration. If you are going around saying this system is better than that one just based of mere, power of the system, then you are really selling yourself short. Keep an open mind.
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3. April 2006 @ 14:18 |
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well the games might not make a console more powerfull or what ever but they are the main reason we purchase them.
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3. April 2006 @ 15:20 |
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yes, they are the reson we get them, but again better games does not mean a better console, it means better games. like theres more games for pc than mac but mac is alot more secure and easy to use once adapted to.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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3. April 2006 @ 15:24 |
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and did anyone know that autrailia and some other minor asia countires are also gunna see the november release? be happy you aussies, you arnt being forgoten.
and anyone see motorstorm from gdc?
http://www.ps3portal.com/ps3/videos/30.html
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
PS3 Username: Anubis66
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rabbity
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3. April 2006 @ 17:10 |
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they did not show anything like that at gdc, well they did but it has not been released to the public yet
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3. April 2006 @ 17:45 |
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that was the video shown was at gdc your moron. so was a revamped version of the ducks, and a fish demo.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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3. April 2006 @ 21:23 |
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i feel the love anubis
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zelda64
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3. April 2006 @ 22:37 |
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Everyone here has said very good comments and I must be typing in a wrong way, because no one seems to get my point.
Place yourself in a consumer's shoe's who has only but a vague or average understanding of computer console's. You read up on these console's from time to time, lets say once a month shall we. You hear all these rumors ?don?t buy an Xbox 360, Sony have a powerful console in the making that?s waiting to be unleashed?, and you therefore think Sony have something special, so its best to wait.
Months go by and you walk past shops with the 360 on display, you notice games like fight night, oblivion, ghost recon, Fifa, table tennis, running on the 360 and are impressed by its graphical power and the wireless controllers with online play. You decide to hold out until PS3. When PS3 finally arrives it to has some awesome looking games on the system but no better looking than the 360, it also has wireless controller?s and online gaming. You also notice blueray (but you have only heard small things about this and your whole collection of films are DVD so it doesn?t interest you that much to pay more for the feature) and it has a 60gb hard drive but again this has no real significance to you, to spend more money.
So then you take a look at what games are exclusive on PS3 and you have Resistance, Warhawk, Motorstorm and Metal Gear Solid, to name but a few. Then you take a look at the games exclusive to Xbox 360 (by which time there will be alot more because of the head start) and you have Gears of War, Mass Effect, Too Human, PGR3, Halo and more. So you ponder on your decision for a few minutes and come to the conclusion that you like Warhawk so you buy PS3, or you like Mass Effect so you buy 360.
This is probably the biggest type of console consumer in the western territory, but you also have those that go from hype (PS3 building up anticipation and is the most powerful or 360 with a big triple A film in production of Halo that the consumer will watch and if it?s a good film will want the game), then you get those who go get what their mates have or what they think is cool (a good reason to why Playstation was successful) and also you have us on afterdawn.
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lxhotboy
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3. April 2006 @ 23:36 |
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Exactly!!!
The amount of big name exclusives for each system will be the main deciding factor for most gamers who chose to only buy one or the other console. Depends on what games you like to play.
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4. April 2006 @ 03:28 |
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anubis that is the video full of cgi, in fact its bursting at the seems with cgi, that they showed everyone at e3 2005. they showed a new video of moterstorm at gdc but not to the public so some guy took some pics from his mobile phone and those are the pics i showed everyone on this or one of the other threads a while back.
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4. April 2006 @ 03:35 |
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also nicely put zelda, but from your games lsit of the xbox 360 youi missed out huxley, crackdown, saints row, lost oddesy, ninty ine nights and doax volyball 2 (just think about the graphics on that game and what it will mean), lol.oh and i am alos really impressed with viva pinuta, its not my type of game but the graphics just look so great and it has to be the most colourful game i have ever seen so taking that into consideration the graphics hold up very well.
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6. April 2006 @ 23:12 |
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Normal people dont buy consoles cuz they know the specs and launch tittles + future releases, they buy consoles cuz they liked the previous console and know that it will be better or improve from the previous. Also the fact that ppl always want to upgrade and get what ever is new and is latest.
I doubt someone who has an x box will go buy a PS3 instead of a 360 when they havent even own anything Sony b4. Same with PS2 owners. But the fact that ppl bought the 360 is cuz its the only thing new that is out. If PS3 and 360 came out exactly at the same time i doubt the 360 woulda been sold out.
PS3...it only does everything(that Sony allows it to)
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lxhotboy
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6. April 2006 @ 23:47 |
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@TCrisKahn2
throughout the history of video gaming console, exactly how many system can you show that actually sold the most units in its era that the majority of people didnot consider to have the better library of games. By the way some of these systems were new to the market of gaming and still ending up doing better than another that was already in the gaming market so i dont think people buying them b.c of they liked the previous console will be the ultimate deciding factor. At release you cant tell which system to buy nor truely compare them b.c the games are not going to be up to par with the sytems true potential. After about a year, when software developers are able to master these new systems of our era, then and only then will one of the console be truely considered to be better than the other or more powerful. By then we will have raw facts and comparisons that can be used to judge things. Like when madden, Nba live and other games are released for all systems and able to be compared. The games titles offered has pretty much always been the dominating systems rise to power and i dont think that is going to end anytime soon.
Nes shot down the sega master system
Snes after time knocked off Sega Genesis
Playstation beat out n64 and saturn
PS2 dominated the xbox, dreamcast, and gamecube
All of the systems that sold the most units for there era had the better lineup of game(that is if were to say the majority rules)
By the way i did not even have a snes and still dont but i know that when the genesis was at it peak ,along with the snes, the snes had the better library of games. I used to stay at my friends house everday just to play his Snes. I was not going to be a genesis fanboy just b/c i owned it and give a biased opinion about that.
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i agree with you when you say that people do not always go for the previouse console they owned, but in the case of M$, everybody hates them, unless they have actually had a chance to play the xbox with its live properly. in sony case, they came along when sega saturn was at its best and could only go down, and nintendo was slowly pushing sega out, but the only problem was that the n64 was still based around children, and the adults of that time normally went for sega saturn, but seeing as sega was going out, sony stepped in with their adult friendly console, and at the time every body knew sony as the large, reliable, electrical company, so they bought into that, and it helps having themost powerfull console out aswell.
when i upgraded from sega saturn to ps1, it felt like a generation gap between the consoles when it game to gameplay and graphics. and thats exactly the reason why i did not get the ps2 b/c it felt like a slight upgrade to the ps1, whereas the xbox and even gamecube made me feel like i was in a new generation of conoles.
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7. April 2006 @ 15:10 |
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I didnt really specify my point so ppl probably got the wrong idea, im only talking about the PS3 and the 360 sorry i forgot to mention it...
I meant that ppl are either gonna buy the 360 or the PS3 based on their ownership of the previous systems.
PS3...it only does everything(that Sony allows it to)
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lxhotboy
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8. April 2006 @ 07:42 |
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That was my point exactly. Some will buy the systems based off previous systems but that the majority will buy them based off the games like I said. After the systems have been out for about a year and the library of games has started to have some persuasion to buyers. Example, xbox madden looked better than the ps2 right? But if you walked into a room while i was playing madden and you look at a tv screen could you really tell if i were playing it on xbox or ps2??? Chances are that you couldnot. Side by side comparison yeah but where there really that much diff in the graphics and sound between the two. If the xbox version had been a drastic diff like comparing madden(xbox) to madden psx now that would have been a reason to buy a system over the other for real. So that left the game library. What games are available for the xbox and ps2 that if i get one or the other i wont be able to play.(exclusive games. Developers will also have figured out which system they want to back the most when you have certain developers that choose to release a game as an exclusive. Most companies know that if they are going to release and exclusive they want to do it on the system with the most support,(popularity from gamers and sales numbers) I understand that we are talking about the ps3 and xbox360. Look back to how things have played out in the past. Do you think things are going to change with the ps3 or xbox360??? Yeah some will say i had a ps2 let me get a ps3 and some will say i had a xbox, crap on the ps3 let me get a xbox360. But the real gamers minds are not that shallow. I had a ps2 and not a xbox. Do you really think i care about sony? All i care about is to show me what games are going to be hot and not available for the other system, bc games like madden, nba live, and all those big games are going to be there regardless what system i choose.
The library available for the xbox360 and ps3 will be the biggest deciding factor for which system people choose. If i were micrsoft i would concentrate on giving the xbox360 a lot more games that will be on the level with the halo series. Look at how games are rated by gamers opinions on diff sites. I am not speaking on just crappy games. There are a lot more games for the ps2 with high rating and reviews than the xbox. People follow the games not what sytem they owned previously. To fall in love with a particular brand name is really selling yourself short.
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8. April 2006 @ 09:49 |
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the 360 would not have sold out if it wernt for a premature and poorly planned release. the
360 was slated from spring but they said "screw the hd-dvd were coming out early" and that
they did, in poor numbers, failing systems, and lacking anything that truly feels "next gen."
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
PS3 Username: Anubis66
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