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22. September 2007 @ 15:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Looks like you did ok to me Chris. :) NICE scan too!!! Gotta love those YUDEN T02's..... :D

If you don't want to "capture" the entire screen you can just click the "disc" looking icon near the top right of the Nero window and it will ask you where you want to save the "image". Direct it to the proper folder and remember where it is so when you upload from Photobucket you can find it. :) Under options (photobucket user page) check 640X480 for uploads with Nero scans. NOW you just have the image of the scan instead of your entire desktop. WELL that's if you want just the scan. :D

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That may be the best scan I've ever seen on a BENQ drive. I've seen plenty of 99's but total PIF's of 23 is VERY impressive. NICE job buddy and you have a GOOD burner somewhere. LOL. :P

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Originally posted by greensman:
Needed to add a couple for hobbit. :)

Burned with Lite-on LH-18A1P @16X
SmartBurn: on
eos: on
TYG03 "value line"
hub code: GH000125
link to scan

Burned with Samsung SH-S203B @16X
TYG03 "value line"
hub code: GH000125
link to scan

I think these turned out pretty good. I need to hook the LH-20A1S back up hobbit so we can have accurate "comparisons"...lol I'll do another burn at 12X on the LH-18A1P just for poo-poo's and ha-ha's. :D

...gm


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To add scan
burned with Lite-on LH-18A1P @12X
same settings....
link to scan
Any posted scans using the Sammy 203B? Greensman, your sammy link brings up the litey 18A1P.


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24. September 2007 @ 14:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Playr:

Any posted scans using the Sammy 203B? Greensman, your sammy link brings up the litey 18A1P.
Playr I scanned with the LH-18A1P but it was burned with the Samsung SH-S203B. For some reason the LH-18A1P sees the SH-S203B as a SH-S183B... ;)

hth.....

....gm

If you would like me to scan with the Sammy I can. :)

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24. September 2007 @ 14:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
is that sammy sosa????lol got a few scans im, gonna post later tonight.
1 is kinda odd...starts off with a spike to 6 then it looks perfect.pif of 349??? and total pies under 6000 very sweet just that first spike.
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here we go again double posting... the processing message thingy icon did show up...lol

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Originally posted by cincyrob:
is that sammy sosa????lol got a few scans im, gonna post later tonight.
1 is kinda odd...starts off with a spike to 6 then it looks perfect.pif of 349??? and total pies under 6000 very sweet just that first spike.
Hey CR. No, not Sammy Sosa. Is he still playing? Sorry, don't have time for sports these days. I'm builting a super duper computer (Intel QX6850 for a friend) and deciding on burners. Saw the Sammy 203B getting good reviews. That or the Litey LH-20A1S?


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24. September 2007 @ 16:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Playr:
Saw the Sammy 203B getting good reviews. That or the Litey LH-20A1S?
Playr,
Let's go here for more discussions and NOT trample cincyrob's thread to much....hehehe.

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28. September 2007 @ 06:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Been playing with some Ritek S04 +R DLs and have had a break-through. I don't know if the break-through is due to a change in disc quality within the spindle or from cleaning the drive, though I'm leaning toward the drive cleaning(I probably should do it more often:P).

First off, heres a Verb DL burned with my Benq DW1655 for reference sake.

The first Riteks I tried wouldn't burn past the layer break, stopping with an error "unable to burn to xxxxxxx location" which was located just after the layer break. I'm suspecting the laser was unable to refocus. Here's a CD/DVD Speed create disc of the Benq with the Ritek media. After this failure, I used some canned air and ran a DVD cleaner in it but didn't expect any improvement since I had been able to burn the Verb DL. Didn't do a new burn as it was late.

Was in contact with Ritek and was going to do a RMA and they wanted some failure samples, so decided to run some non-ripped samples. Lo and behold, the darn thing went to completion. Here's the first burn, a 2.4x burn with a 4x scan on the Benq.

The 2nd burn had a finalization error, here's the 3rd burn, burned @ 6x with scan set @ 8x.

Here's #4, a 6x Burn with a 4x Scan.

The next 3 are scans of the same disc for comparison purposes, the 1st 2 scans are on the Benq, the last is scanned on my Lite-On LH-20A1H.

6x Burn, 8x Scan(Benq)

6x Burn, 4xCLV Scan (Benq)

6x Benq Burn, 4x LH-20A1H Scan.

I tried 8x scans on the Lite-on but was getting a 80-90 PIF peak at the start so dropped back to 4x.

Cross-posted here for discussion purposes.


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28. September 2007 @ 07:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hobbit,
those look pretty good to me. I'm impressed that the thing went thru the layer break and the quality of the scan is GREAT compared to some of the other DL discs that I've seen.

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29. September 2007 @ 12:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Couple of scans, the first is another Ritek +R DL S04 MID burned @ 4x on Benq DW1655, scanned @ 4x:

Ritek + R DL

The 2nd is the first burn on my Samsung S203B, Verb -R, burned @ 8x, scanned @ 4x on Lite-On LH-20A1S:

8x -R Verb, burned @ 8x, scanned @ 4x


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29. September 2007 @ 13:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hobbit,
That's not a "bad" scan for a MCC 02RG20. The 16X version is more "difficult" to get good burns/scans on but hey how does it play? that's more important at this point. :)

You should really try that Sammy out for speed. She'll do some speedy good burns. :D

....gm

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29. September 2007 @ 13:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Man, what a slave driver! I just get the friggin' thing installed and he's pushing, pushing for more speed! I'm glad I don't work for you! LOL!

I just wanted to get a "basis" before I start to "open her up'!


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30. September 2007 @ 13:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Finally got a few scans of the LiteOn DH-20A3P burns. :) NOT real impressed as of yet but there hasn't been any official updates in f/w that I know of. :) Found the "experimental" f/w but it's still not quite there yet. :D

What follows are scans of the discs burned by the DH-20A3P. They are labeled according to MID.

cmc mag e01 8x burn

TDK TTH02 18X burn and 16X scan

RICOHJPN R03 20X burn (made it to 16X) and 16X scan

MCC 004 4X scan 8X burn

MCC 004 16X scan 8X burn

....gm

I'll have some more in future but who knows when.... LOL.

ADD:
I friend and I were talking about the Samsung SH-S203B so here's some additional stuff about/for the Samsung. :)

link to special features page

K-probe d/l page

c0deKing updated f/w for Sammy

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2. October 2007 @ 18:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Here's a new burn of an 8x RicohJPN R03

Here. Burned @ 8x, scanned @ 8x.


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2. October 2007 @ 18:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hobbit that looks familiar... RICOHJPN R03's haven't been the best media for me. They play fine but the burn/scan looks a little less than spectacular. :P I'm curious to see how they scan in a few months. I've heard pretty good things about them from respected/credible members so I'm not to worried. :)

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2. October 2007 @ 20:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
greensman,

I agree. Using them up, that's the last one I have. a good gift to my bro.


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3. October 2007 @ 04:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Adding a burn from the Samsung SH-S203B and the scan is from a LiteOn LH-18A1P.
MID: RICOHJPN R03
Speed: 8X
Scan speed: 4X
Burning Engine: Nero Express

Scan

Stat

I can post a TRT scan later... off to work I go.. lol

@Hobbit... look familiar/similar??
...gm

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3. October 2007 @ 07:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well i got a few scans here. that ive done over the past week. havent had time to do anyhting with them, with work and the DR.
so here we go. ive found some interesting things with different media.

these 1st 3 or 4 are pretty much the same 8x+r verbs(thanks buddy)
all burnt at 6x and scaned @4x
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i196/Cincrob/TJB40th.png
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i196/Cincrob/Thomas.png
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i196/Cincrob/et.png

this one was burnt @6x also but i think i got a finger print on it at the edge
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i196/Cincrob/EVANALMIGHTY.png

on all of these they have very low PIE's best run of disc ive had in a while

this one is a 8x+r hub printable maxell(mij)
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i196/C...ndoomsday-1.png

and this one is the 8x+r verb burnt at 8x.it has a nasty spike at the very begining then looks great afterwards. i have burnt about 6 of them at 8x and got this same result.. so i slowed down to 6x and i get the results i got on the 1st 4 above..
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i196/Cincrob/ring2-1.png

i beleive i still have 3 or 4 of those RicohJpn's left ill try and burn something on them adn post..
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3. October 2007 @ 21:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nice scans buddy. ;) How you like them PIE's on the MCC 003??
Here's one for ya. :D

Classic movie: CaddyShack
IMGBURN @ 8X
Scan @ 4X
MID: MCC 003
Samsung SH-S203B burner w/ c0deKing SB01-fb-fr f/w
LiteOn LH-18A1P scanner

stat

scan

trt Sony AW-G170S

....gm

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4. October 2007 @ 16:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Wish I could burn Verbs like these Ty's
http://s214.photobucket.com/albums/cc88/...rrent=Scan2.jpg

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That's a sweet one Chris! I'd put that one in your Hall of Fame for that drive!

I think on average that you will get a better burn with the TYs compared with the Verbs, at least that has been my experience.


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4. October 2007 @ 19:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nice one Chris!! Agree with hobbit on the "trophy" scan. hehehe. I will say that the BENQ's prefer DVD+R media and that's what that is. DANG good DVD+R media btw. :D

Had to give the Samsung a go on some TY media, in particular YUDEN000 T02 media. :D

burner: Samsung SH-S203B SB01 (c0deKing fb-fr f/w) @ 8X
scanner: LiteOn LH-18A1P @ 4X
IMGBURN: booktype to DVD-ROM
MID: YUDEN 000 T02
Nero 4X scan
trt scanner: Sony AW-G170S

stat

scan

trt

...gm

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7. October 2007 @ 21:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've just bought my first spindle of 'Made in India' Verbatim DVD+R DL discs and I'm stunned at how bad they are. I've used the Singapore discs in the past and have had nothing but excellent burns, but those days seem to be over - my Playo discs are outperforming the Verbatim now.

My burns have been done on a BenQ DW-1640 writer; I've been burning the 2.4x discs at 8x (both Singapore and India discs). The very first disc I burned did so successfully, but Nero Disc Speed recorded a PIF failure of 1500 right at the get go! (no, that is not a typo.) I threw that one away and did another burn. Here is that scan:

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb294...imDLIndiaCN.png

I've never had PO failures before, never mind 103 of them. I've also never had a quality score of 0; not even the Playo discs were that bad. (I did watch the DVD on my LG LDA-531 stand-alone player, and it played perfectly; I didn't even notice the layer break.) OK, so after 2 bad results (at least in terms of the scans), I burned a different file and came up with this scan:

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb294...LIndiaTrade.png

Ouch. Not much better. The next file I attempted failed during the burn sequence at the layer break. It's not looking like a fluke at this point. For a frame of reference, here is a scan I did using the same burner for a Singapore disc:

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb294...LSingParent.png

I've been going out of my way lately to buy Verbatim DL discs because of their reputation and my success rate with them, but now I think I'll buy the cheaper discs. Why not, if I'm getting the same results if not better with them?

I do have a question, though. I've read that PO failures (as opposed to PI) are fatal to disc playability, so why did my disc play OK?
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8. October 2007 @ 05:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Wow! Those scans make my burns of MBI +R DLs look great! The MBI's code out as RICOHJPN D01 067.

Here's my best burn so far with them:

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s102/...xBurn4xScan.png

Most (I've only done a few) are getting a 84-90 score out of DVD Speed.

Here's a couple more:

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s102/...MBIDL4xBurn.png

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s102/...n4xTSSTScan.png

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s102/...20a1h4xScan.png

If Verbatim is fazing out the DLs from the Singapore plant I'll convert to these, they're cheaper.

BTW, These are Hub printable, Glossy and Waterproof. :)

Here's a scan of a printed disk:

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s102/hobbit112/Sahara.jpg

BTW, My Benq DW1655 doesn't seem to like these discs that well, or I need to burn more through it.


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8. October 2007 @ 08:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i Doubt or hope they dont, verbatim are gonna phase out the singapore DL disc... just dont make to much since to do something like that .. they have the market all to themselves right now in the DL land.

@dutch44
as for the PIF's the more you have of them is what makes the disc hard to read and not preform in your stand alone player. haveing a few single spike isnt really gonna hurt the disc but when you get alot of them together then its a problem.

have you tried to do a scan disc test on it. this will show if it reads the disc ok. this can be done with the nero speed check.
 
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