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8. August 2009 @ 00:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I realize that the scans are still WAYYYY within the standard. In fact most people would be happy with these scans. But since I know how the mentioned drives perform, im noticing a little something, that I would like to learn whats causing it. If I can learn, than everyone will benefit :D The PI E's have been slipping since I switched to this new mainboard. And the failures are slightly higher too. I am FAIRLY adept at tinkering in the bios. I will not fry my baby LOL! :)



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8. August 2009 @ 00:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@greeny

Me thinks Mr Omega watches the scans more than he watches the movies he backs up, which will all play and appear the same, very nicely.


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8. August 2009 @ 00:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LOL! I suppose it may seem like im nitpicking. I guess the easiest way to explain it is, "I'm a perfectionist." I was born that way, I will die that way LOL!



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8. August 2009 @ 00:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by garmoon:
@greeny

Me thinks Mr Omega watches the scans more than he watches the movies he backs up, which will all play and appear the same, very nicely.
GARmoonY don't make fun of him... he likes those scans and I understand his "concern". ;)

@Oman7.... you may just have reached a "spot" in the discs that are let's say NOT as good as the others... NO ONE knows but you really.. if the "change" of a MOBO is and issue in your mind by all means have a look at the BIOS and see what you can do.... NOT saying it's not the BIOS or mobo just wanted you to cover the "easy" bases first and see what you get. ;)

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8. August 2009 @ 03:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by greensman:
OMan7 you is a funny guy. :P I would make sure your system is clean and running smoothly before you mess with the BIOS. What "updates" have you made to your system lately? ODD included!! The first burn is respectable and the Sammy burn isn't to bad for a TYG03!! Remember most drives are gonna give better results with DVD+R discs than DVD-R discs... I'm sure you knew that.... It's NOT 100% the case but it's very high, let me assure you. ;)

I've found that the TYG03 are very picky when it comes to which drives do "well" with them... NOT all drives like them and NOT all TYG03's measure up to TY standards if you ask me... DOn't let the TY people read that. ROFL. :P
Personally, I think it's the Formaldehyde getting to him! ROFLMSOAO!!

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YOu have to remember that your PIF's are under 1000 total and under 2 spike size too... NOT to bad on the Jitter for the TYG03 and the MCC004 is definitely respectable. :)

DON'T go crazy trying to find something that isn't there. ;)

"burn" from a HDD that is less than 50% full and make sure you "clean" and "defrag" often enough for however much "activity" you have on that HDD. ;)

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8. August 2009 @ 05:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LOL russ! Im afraid I got caught up playing GTA IV tonight. I haven't given it any attention in almost a month. Soon as I have my coffee in the morning, I hope to improve my scanning :) I'm sorry you guys don't see what im seeing. You may be right about the bad/B-Grade batch GM. Similar scans on a separate tower. But the TYG03's have my attention. I can dismiss the MCC 004's as being a batch flaw. But the TYG03's do fairly well with the sammy...

One things for sure. I'll get to the bottom of this in the morning.



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8. August 2009 @ 15:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You know...I guess I simply didn't wanna believe that Verbatim could produce less than A+++ media. While the current scans are not what im used to, they are very acceptable. Yet another awesome T02 scan. Not the best, but pretty friggin good.





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8. August 2009 @ 17:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This is a scan I did today on my BenQ DW1640.
I burnned it @12X.







Burn On,
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8. August 2009 @ 17:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Here is one with NEC AD7200A @12X and scanned with BenQ DW LS 1655:







Burn On,
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8. August 2009 @ 19:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@pernal

That 99 is a butt ugly scan. I've never received a 99 grade on my burns with 7200S or 7240S Optis; scanned with Litey LH20A1S. Just 95s and they are all better than that scan but with less scores. You disc will play just like mine tho, so it really doesn't make a hill of beans. Just so I can watch it, copy it, and it plays w/o any noticeable flaws, I'm muy contento.


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9. August 2009 @ 10:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by garmoon:
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That 99 is a butt ugly scan. I've never received a 99 grade on my burns with 7200S or 7240S Optis; scanned with Litey LH20A1S. Just 95s and they are all better than that scan but with less scores. You disc will play just like mine tho, so it really doesn't make a hill of beans. Just so I can watch it, copy it, and it plays w/o any noticeable flaws, I'm muy contento.
GARmoonY you is so mean. lol. BUTT UGLY, now that's not nice and besides he scanned it on a BENQ drive which has different perameters compared to the LITEON's we use most of the time. :)

The JITTER bothers me more than anything.... I guess I get hooked on that and PIF when it comes to a good scan. :)

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Yeah, greeny, I know. I had 3 of those BQs1650s. My daughter still uses them. I'm faulting the Nero Scan program. It's not consistent. A 5 on a litey ought to receive the same score as a 5 on a BQ or Sony or NEC! A 2 on a Litey gets you the proverbial 95. And a 5 on BQ gets a 99-no way.

I still stand by my butt ugly call. Horrible jitter and over 4K PIFs. and a 99? :P LOL

Sorry pernal was not trying to put you down at all. My bad if it came out that way.

Greesman, I must have forgotten my nice medicine this AM.


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9. August 2009 @ 23:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by garmoon:
Yeah, greeny, I know. I had 3 of those BQs1650s. My daughter still uses them. I'm faulting the Nero Scan program. It's not consistent. A 5 on a litey ought to receive the same score as a 5 on a BQ or Sony or NEC! A 2 on a Litey gets you the proverbial 95. And a 5 on BQ gets a 99-no way.

I still stand by my butt ugly call. Horrible jitter and over 4K PIFs. and a 99? :P LOL

Sorry pernal was not trying to put you down at all. My bad if it came out that way.

Greesman, I must have forgotten my nice medicine this AM.
Do you ever take it?? :P

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10. August 2009 @ 02:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well that sucks. Every reputable store I search for a decent lite-on drive, only carries an iHAP drive, or an iHAS. Those models have left a bad taste in my mouth thank you very much LOL! And I don't trust that all ebay sellers are selling NEW drives LOL! I guess I can continue researching the iHAS drives, and see if a particular model has favored better than the others.



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10. August 2009 @ 05:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
GM,
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And a 5 on BQ gets a 99-no way.

I was hollering about that more than 3 years ago. Where the hell was everybody that suddenly agrees with me now, back then? LOL!! More damn spikes than a Porcupine, and max of 6 on the PIFs and a 98! I said no way back then, and I'm sticking to it! ROFLMSOAO!!

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@Russ

I was taking my medicine back then!LMFAO


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10. August 2009 @ 12:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
fellas your all comparing apples to oranges.
the benQ's read the info at a all together different way then the liteons we all have and use mostly of. if you was to take those 99's of a benQ and convert them into the same reading strategy that a liteon reads it will come out as a 95 like most liteon scans. it is just the way the benQis designed. the opti's have almost the same reading strategy as the benqs, thats why there scan look simular to them and not a liteon. with the exception of the 7220s(which has the meditek chipset in it)which is liteon.

no onto something different here is another scan done today on a 16x+r verb(MCC004) useing imageburn. i think i got me a awseom cake box here im getting these scan like this allmost everytime out with them. 3111 total PIE's how sweet.



then i did this one on the fly disc to disc with clonedvd2



EDIT
i burnt another copy of this on the AD7200A
i then scanned it on the same drive and got a 98 which would bea 95 on the litey





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10. August 2009 @ 13:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well...I see rob is getting some awesome media! Perhaps my next batch ♥



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10. August 2009 @ 16:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@rob

Assuming what you say is true about the different reasons for scores on different drives (I could not doubt you-'cause I have no idea why, then Nero should take that into account when assigning the final grade. It seems equivalent of a class getting two differenr final exams one easy and one hard and no grading on the curve-you get what you get hard test or easy. The liteys getting the hard test.

I'm not trying to sabotage this thread, but to encourage a civil discussion about the flawed logic of the Nero program. And to date, we have achieved such. Now I will get off the bloody pulpit and defer to those who know lots more than I. Both of you-no J/K- I couldn't pass that up. :)


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10. August 2009 @ 17:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ahh, but the scanning is soo much fun LOL!

Here's a little burn. I grabbed this disc near the bottom of the stack, to see if its gonna change at all. Apparently not LOL! And as you can see, the title resembles my nature LOL!!!





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10. August 2009 @ 18:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Is obsessed any good? That would have been a 99.5 on the BenQ scale. LMAO


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10. August 2009 @ 18:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
My folks apparently thought so. I haven't watched it myself yet.



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11. August 2009 @ 01:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
here ya go moony. pictures are worth a thousand words.

this is a shot of my 7200A it has two settings to scan at the 8ecc strategy and the 1ecc strategy. which it is default at the 8ecc. which lets more errors go by than at the 1ecc that the liteys scan at. and the 1ecc is the only option the liteys have.it wont let you change it to 8ecc setting
here is the 7200A.


and here is the liteon 20A4P



i set the 7200A to the 1ecc setting and scanning it then ill do the same at 8ecc and show the difference.


i didnt scan it to the end but you can see that it is scanning at the same rate as the liteon here.



scanning now at 8ecc will post shortly
here is the 8ecc scans





big difference

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11. August 2009 @ 07:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@rob

Thanks for the detailed explanation. I didn't know that. But I see my analysis is not completely flawed you get to select the easy test and not the hard one if you like! :)


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11. August 2009 @ 08:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by garmoon:
@rob

Thanks for the detailed explanation. I didn't know that. But I see my analysis is not completely flawed you get to select the easy test and not the hard one if you like! :)
you can with the Optarics not the liteons. TBH i dont think alot of people know you can choose with the Optarics.
im going to see if i can change the AD7220S seeing it has the liteon chip in it. it is the onlyone that i havent checked what it can be set at.

EDIT:
yup its set just like the liteon 20A4P

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