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9. January 2010 @ 03:56 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Credit has to go to creaky, not me. He's the one who steered me to using three drives! I had only split it between the boot drive and a second physical hard drive before I decided on three drives! It's worth a about 2 to 3 minutes saved, on an average flick!
Russ
Aw shucks; it's just common sense really :)
On topic i tried to scan a few discs yesterday, just for the hell of it. Got (program) errors from Nero CD/DVD Speed (latest version ie same as you all use). Had the error on different discs and on every burner ie LG H66N, LG 4167B and Benq DW1650. Discs would scan to around 1000MB/, no more than say 1300MB, looked for an update to the program but all they now is a trial version (ie 30 days use then pay) of Opti Drive Control of i think it's called. That error'd out too. Uninstalled that and gave it up. Not asking for help on it, just mentioning it, didn't even bother googling for the errors, and i i'm pretty sure one or more of my drives don't support quality scans anyway, plus i'm not into scanning anyway (well apart from CRC scans).
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9. January 2010 @ 04:17 |
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4X is simply a guideline for Lite-on's russ. Cdfreaks will confirm that. But it DOES amount to what works best for you as well ;)
That's a strange error creaky. Never had that one occur...
another MCC 003 coming up. Not as good as I expected. But it is an aging burner :p
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9. January 2010 @ 05:01 |
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Rather unusual, that a 4x and 8x scan closely resemble one another. If they resembled each other more often, I might consider sticking with 8X. 4X is awfully slow LOL!
7200S 8X. This burner has seen a great deal of discs. When I first got it, I started to rely on it heavily LOL! It's quite possible that it's seen more than the 7200A's now. And i've had them longer...
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9. January 2010 @ 10:11 |
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@creaky..
I know you didn't ask for anything but that error is strange as Oman7 said. :)
I'd do a search at CDF for CK's edition of Nero CD/DVD Speed. ;) It's 4.7.7.16 and will work with iHAS drives in case you have one of those Liteons. AFAIK the LG drives DON'T do a scan with Nero. Not a big deal as you have some Liteons I"m sure. :p Good luck to you if you choose to accept this mission. :D
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9. January 2010 @ 10:32 |
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As i said to Russ, i already have that version, it's just fate telling me that i (still) don't want to waste laser power on scanning :o
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9. January 2010 @ 11:22 |
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Originally posted by creaky:
As i said to Russ, i already have that version, it's just fate telling me that i (still) don't want to waste laser power on scanning :o
U is a funny man!:-P
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9. January 2010 @ 13:36 |
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If by "Wasting laser power" you mean wearing a burner out, Im glad to do it LOL! If a burner can't last a year, no matter what is done, and how it's used, it has no business archiving peoples precious data! The industry needs to take a lot more pride into the technology they're producing. Imagine if the FBI were to get a lemon. If it were the IRS it wouldn't bother me, but the FBI...LOL! Machines don't cause DOA's/RMA's. People do. If we put even a little more pride into our production, we'd start to see mankind at a peak of our evolution...
JM2C ;)
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9. January 2010 @ 15:31 |
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Best one i've seen yet. Always did like those 7200A's. Verbatim tries soo hard, but they just can't beat TY :p
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9. January 2010 @ 18:20 |
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Here's an 8x burn I just finished. It's only 3.2GB but it's still a decent scan.
Right after I scanned it, the drive went belly up! It won't burn a DVD anymore. It burns the disk and finalizes it, but when you click OK, it locks up Nero. You can't even close the program until you remove the DVD from the burner. It will play, bit it won't record! Very strange. I even tried a couple of new data cables, and it does the same thing. I even replaced the firmware, but it still does the same thing!
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Now if this don't beat all! Here's a burn made on the "Bad" drive at 12x and scanned at 8x.
Yet, it won't burn at 8x! Nero says the burn is complete, but when you click OK to continue, the drive sits there flickering, and locks up Nero until you eject the DVD! It's not playable!
Oman7,
Remember I said that mine works best burned at 12x and scanned at 8x. Well I was wrong! It works best burning at 12x and scanning at 4x! Not by a lot, but still better!
Why it does that burning at 8x, is beyond me! They burn fine at 8x in the other drive.
Russ
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9. January 2010 @ 23:05 |
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Ha ha! Not bad at all. This is from my other 7200A, 1Z2 Firmware @ 8X via Imgburn. Booktyped -Rom. Oddly, it took the BD/Dvd upscaler time to load the disc. At least 30 Sec. Much more than im used to. The only difference between this disc and the others is that this one is a MCC 003, where as the 004's load quicker. Now this could be an isolated incident. Other burns may work ok. The BD/Dvd upscaler im referring to is the BD-P1590 Samsung. Love that little devil :) So far, despite not officially supporting burned media, IT DOES! Including TY-R discs.
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9. January 2010 @ 23:55 |
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Ok. The first 003 disc was apparently a fluke. The following scan loaded up quickly/normally. However, as you can see, there are extreme imperfections on the dye's shield. A little bit more colorful this time around LOL! Appears to be hairline scratches around inner area, as well as spots throughout. The spots however barely effected the outcome. I wonder if it plays. I'll never know though...
8X 7200A
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10. January 2010 @ 00:36 |
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Here's a respectable TYG02. EXTREMELY respectable :) Was looking Extremely good til the end. Now it's only very good LOL! I've had them scan with only 40-50 errors. And others have had less...
8X TYG02
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10. January 2010 @ 00:45 |
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I think my best was 72 PIFs on a TY 02.
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10. January 2010 @ 00:50 |
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I believe this is currently my best. Yes, I keep things like this for my own reference LOL! This one was something worth keeping ;)
My best TYG02 is 60Pi F's. For some reason, I kept it in FULL screen screenshot though...
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10. January 2010 @ 01:30 |
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OMAN7... U is funny too. :)
For a TYG02... that's a terrific burn and the T02 is great too.. both have low JITTER and the PIF's are low too. ;) How are your drives doing?? Are you getting some long life out of them?? I'm at a point that I have to "re-install" some OS's again.. are you doing well with Win7? It's on my list as well... I loves XP but it's NOT long for this world I'm sure and I'm getting some rumblings of XP disappearing slowly from the business world too. :(
Hope all is well!! :)
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10. January 2010 @ 01:56 |
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I would say windows 7 is every bit as good as XP if not better. That's my opinion of course. Apparently very few have had trouble though. When windows 7 came out, I fully embraced it. I've not had one coaster running windows 7, zero crashes, etc. Windows 7 is here to stay :)
All of my burners have had a long life, with the exception of the iHAS424(Optiarc 7241S), Optiarc 7241S, and the LH-20A1S. They have only seen moderate use in comparison. Though I suppose my samsung drives (SH-S223Q) only had moderate use before going belly up. Which is fine. I'm more a lite-on optiarc fan than anything ;)
Everything is well for me. I hope everything is well for you. Things will be VERY well here soon. Making the upgrade to AM3 here shortly. USB 3.0, Sata Rev 3, Solid State Disk, Etc. :D
By the way, Backing up my first Blu-ray disc here. Little experiment. Took over 1Hr to rip on my new iHES108 Drive.
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10. January 2010 @ 03:10 |
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However, extracting the main movie file, only took 57Min. Now lets see what I can do with the file. Apparently Nero Showtime is ok with the file type (M2TS), however the audio is another problem. Where as "Total Media Theatre 3" CAN play the file in its entirety. ;) I once read that AutoGK had the ability to work with blu-ray files. Now I can play :D
The title of this thread may need to be changed to CD/DVD/BD ;)
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10. January 2010 @ 04:52 |
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This was once a 98, one of the two I've had in 7 years of burning! At almost 4 years old it still looks remarkably good, although no longer a 98. I had my hopes up when it made it to 3.5GB, but it was not to be! At least it didn't make me wait until the very last spike! LOL!! That would have crushed me!
Good Disks like the Sony/TY T02s, seem to stand the test of time lots better than some of the early DVD+Rs that I bought back then. I've already had to replace all of the junk ones. Hey! It's a learning experience, right? :)
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10. January 2010 @ 16:06 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
This was once a 98, one of the two I've had in 7 years of burning!
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Russ id say if would have rescanned that disc right after you did the first time and got the 98. it wouldnt have been a 98 again... ive yet to get back to back 98's on the same disc.
here is one i just did on them valuedisc (cmc mag)
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10. January 2010 @ 16:15 |
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here is some of my past best low PIF's
and my best i think?
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10. January 2010 @ 17:06 |
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Russ id say if would have rescanned that disc right after you did the first time and got the 98. it wouldnt have been a 98 again... ive yet to get back to back 98's on the same disc.
Rob you hit the nail on the head- and if you scanned in your best again, it would probably be a different score or at least different #s of PIEs and PIFs. That's why I hold little trust in the scans, If it plays correctly (can't tell difference from pressed) and I can copy it- it's a 100 in my eyes.
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11. January 2010 @ 04:10 |
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Indeed garmoon. But what if you saw spots on your discs. Wouldn't you be curious what a scanning software like Nero Disc Speed would tell you? Or if a disc were not playable, what would nero say about it. I've had discs that were not playable on certain hardware, that scanned very good. Very unusual. I have my suspicions though.
Take the following for example. there were only 62 Pi F's before the 3.0 area. Before the burn I saw spots on the disc. I looked at a dozen discs before I selected one. So far, every disc in this bundle has tiny little spots on the shield. I think I'll stick with Yuden T02 discs in the future. There's obviously more quality control there. I'm ok with this scan though. I lean toward the disc being playable :) It is TY of course ;)
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11. January 2010 @ 07:38 |
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If it were me i would start by CRC scanning the disc in question, if no corruption was found i'd probably still recopy it or maybe just ignore it depending on how bad the 'spots' looked.
As said, quality scanning isn't worth a great deal, infinitely better are CRC scanning, playback and recopy abilities. Period. :)
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11. January 2010 @ 09:10 |
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Originally posted by creaky:
If it were me i would start by CRC scanning the disc in question, if no corruption was found i'd probably still recopy it or maybe just ignore it depending on how bad the 'spots' looked.
As said, quality scanning isn't worth a great deal, infinitely better are CRC scanning, playback and recopy abilities. Period. :)
Of course sound advice from the creaky man. ;) CRC scanning is much less forgiving than Quality scanning. If I have any issues or thoughts I always do a CRC scan but it's been ages since I've done one, NO spots or issues with playback that weren't file related. If a disc has spots, streaks, or any imperfections it goes directly into the bin for me. I've done my share of burning "funny" discs and I don't care to waste me time any more.
Oman7... if those discs do indeed have "imperfections" on more than you care to have (over 2%) I'd consider returning them for another spindle or my money back. RETURN all of them, even if you burned on them!!
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11. January 2010 @ 14:10 |
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I've had the CRC check turn up bogus once...
The spindle is nearly gone now. Besides, the "spots" don't seem to interfere too much with the burn process. The failures are minimal, and no stutters in video playback.
I just used a very soft cloth to clean one disc. I was quite surprised to see what I saw when I breathed on the disc! Almost a kind of filmy residue on the shield. It buffed away clean. I wonder what I end up with now...
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