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15. March 2010 @ 00:32 |
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I love how some people say these scans are meaningless. And then something like this comes along. Granted, it probably plays fine. But it does raise the question, what happened? Well I'll tell you what happened.
Are we scanning for burned quality? Or are we scanning for Dye quality? Well...at this point, given my burners track records, I guess I'm checking the Dye's integrity for longevity. Because with areas like the nasty one within this scan, I would be concerned about the disc lasting. If the area in question were to get scratched, it would no doubt compromise a Lasers ability to interpret the recorded information.
Now I'm not saying that every disc should be scanned in this fashion, I'm simply suggesting that people need to be aware of certain types of flaws, which cause burn scores like this. It's fairly easily seen once the disc has been burned. Unfortunately, these flaws do not make themselves known, until the dye has been subjected to the recording laser. At least there are no known methods that I'm aware of :p
Congratulations verbatim. This is the worst dye produced by you, that i've ever seen. I suppose you're entitled though ♥♥♥
LH20A1S 12X Imgburn. And the CRC check passed with flying colors. Though the LH-20A1H will read some freakishly bad discs :D
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15. March 2010 @ 01:04 |
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LOL @ Oman7.... ;) I'm sure that's NOT the worst disc that you've ever burned. :p It is a little concerning considering the media but I would keep buying them until they really are NOT worth buying. :)
I think these TY T03 discs are pretty good... kicking your MCC 004 discs arse for sure!!! :p
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15. March 2010 @ 01:07 |
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15. March 2010 @ 01:33 |
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Well, this ones much better anyway. I wish TY made branded medias. I like the verbatims, because they give me an area to write on with a sharpie. Plus they are generally trustworthy LOL! I'd certainly buy their media before most others. I only buy the printable media for projects, and are too spendy to waste on myself LOL!
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15. March 2010 @ 04:01 |
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Here's one I burned, just the other day. Been a long time since I got a 93% score! I'm sorta used to those 95s.
Still, fairly low on PIEs and low on PIFs! Decent enough burn at 12x with the new Verbs. Doesn't give any problems playing!
Here's another I burned with one of the new Verb's! Burned on the 7240 and scanned on the 7240.
It seems to be breaking in as it scans much better now than when it was new. Probably burned 50 or so with it. Not bad!
Russ
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15. March 2010 @ 12:09 |
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Good burns Russ. ;) OR scans I mean. LOL.
Here is a little 12x burn on MCC 003 media with a iHAS120 Liteon, not great but not bad considering the 5 point spikes. lol. ;)
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15. March 2010 @ 16:58 |
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Here's a Dual Layer Burn. Courtesy of the LH-20A1S @ 4X. Not too shabby :) Certainly worthy of archival ;)
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16. March 2010 @ 07:53 |
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here is one i did late lastnight. on the newer 16x+r verbs ifi keep getting scans like these i will no longer look for the MIT verbs it will be these.
made in the Arab Emirates. the dye on these seem to be more on par with the old MIT's
that is actually a sweet scan. if it was scanned on a litey it would most def be a 98..lol
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just did this one. same media different drive.. i should also have my new premium Jvc/TY's 8x-r's today. coming fedex so i might get a burn in before i leave for work.
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16. March 2010 @ 23:07 |
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This looks like one of Oman7's MCC 004 discs... lol. :p
media: CMC MAG AM3 (bloody Memorex...lol)
burner: AD-7200S
engine: IMGBURN @ 8X
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16. March 2010 @ 23:43 |
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LOL! I suppose it is very similar ;)
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17. March 2010 @ 05:15 |
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Well Dang, looky here!
This is one of the Arab Emirates Verbs, burned at 12x. As near as I can figure, the old Verbs from a year or more back were just like these. They like some speed in their burns, IMO!
I figured that you would never need more than 2x anyway, so I scanned it at 2x. I have an old P-III Dell laptop and it's got a fat 2x DVD Burner in it, and it plays fine.
Here's the same DVD, but read at 4x.
Not a bad scan at all, but to my way of thinking this tells me that the Data is mostly there, intact, and readable. The drive just needs enough time to read it. Since the drive rarely goes faster than 2x when playing a movie anyway, it should be a pretty good indicator of the DVD Dye's integrity, and a good indicator of whether it will play on stand alone's, without problems. Besides, I have to say something! Hey, it's a 98!!! They don't come very often at any speed! LOL!!
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17. March 2010 @ 12:00 |
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But the two scans show the fault in the whole scanning process. Pick your speed pick your score. It's a fun game, no more!
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17. March 2010 @ 12:16 |
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well someone finally listens to me...lol i said years back that the best speed to do the QC check is at 2x. why? cause at 2x is all any standalone player will read a disc it wont read them any faster. but when you use 2x speed to check the disc it takes 10x longer...lol plus without a litey your not gonna be able to read/scan one at 2x. i just did this one here on the 16x+r verb not to bad. love the gaps inbetween the PIF's thats nice.
i will scan this same disc at 2x and see what i get.
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17. March 2010 @ 12:18 |
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Originally posted by garmoon:
But the two scans show the fault in the whole scanning process. Pick your speed pick your score. It's a fun game, no more!
its not that its a FAULT, it is just reading the disc slower more real time speeds. it will also do just the opposite as Russ's scan if there is anything bad with the BURN it will show more errors as well.
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17. March 2010 @ 12:42 |
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same disc above scanned at 2x about 5000 less PIE's but more PIF's still alot of space on this disc without a error..lol
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17. March 2010 @ 13:01 |
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@Rob
But I have scans that are 72 PIFs and 1500 PIFs that are both given the same basic 95 score. I agree it will give you an idea of how good the burn is, but let's face it, when was the last time one of your burns DIDN'T play? I can't remember. We all use top notch media and most are using same burners even.
How can your burn of the 97 above, with a 5 PIF spike receive that mark. When a 2 on a different ODD will be no better than a 95.
I'm not trying to rile any feathers; just pointing out my feelings on the subject. It's fun. I do have one question tho. Does multitasking on the pc, while a scan is being performed, affect the scan??? :P LOL
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17. March 2010 @ 13:23 |
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Originally posted by garmoon:
@Rob
But I have scans that are 72 PIFs and 1500 PIFs that are both given the same basic 95 score. I agree it will give you an idea of how good the burn is, but let's face it, when was the last time one of your burns DIDN'T play? I can't remember. We all use top notch media and most are using same burners even.
How can your burn of the 97 above, with a 5 PIF spike receive that mark. When a 2 on a different ODD will be no better than a 95.
I'm not trying to rile any feathers; just pointing out my feelings on the subject. It's fun. I do have one question tho. Does multitasking on the pc, while a scan is being performed, affect the scan??? :P LOL
LOL! I doubt that very seriously...
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17. March 2010 @ 13:35 |
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95 on one drive and 97 on another is because the 2 different drives read differently. the 7220s has a mediatek chip in it which is a litey and the 7240 has a nec chipset they read different.
personally i think multi tasking while burning does make a difference. but some say it dont matter.??? technally it dont know for sure???
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17. March 2010 @ 13:43 |
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Multitasking while scanning is no big deal, Multitasking while burning...It's questionable. Depends on the configuration. Multi drives are wonderful. If you're burning from your OS drive, or your OS's drive is simply experiencing cache load, then you'll incur buffer underrun. Most modern if not all modern drives, are equipped to deal with this. Some probably better than others ;)
Myself, I prefer to burn from a de-fragmented storage drive :D
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17. March 2010 @ 16:29 |
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Here's a dual layer burn done by the 7200S at 4X. Shot too Nabby LOL!
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17. March 2010 @ 16:54 |
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Originally posted by garmoon:
But the two scans show the fault in the whole scanning process. Pick your speed pick your score. It's a fun game, no more!
garmoon,
I think it's much more than just a fun game, I think when you scan at 2x, the results are more in tune with actual playback, because the Quality test is running as slow as it would be in real world use in any stand alone player. Why read them at 4x or 8x when they never play that fast to begin with? At 2x it takes over 23 minutes to scan a DVD, but I think it shows a more representative result. I think Rob is right!
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Russ
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17. March 2010 @ 17:38 |
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The holder of that MULTI-PASS is a Goddess... :)
ON the scanning and such.... just a SMALL representative of what your disc may or may not play like.. it only reads the information that is there and that's IT... Try scanning a pressed DVD!! I bet you'll cr@p yourself knowing what they scan like... I mean one strait out of the DVD case you just pulled the plastic off of.... ROFL. DOn't even think about scanning a DVD you rented from RedBox.... you'll definitely poop ye panties... :p
I can show you 95 after 95 that play just fine but pixelate to no end.. it's NOT the disc, NOT the reader, NOT the writer.. it was a wonky mobo... South bridge to be more exact IIRC... it's been over 3 years now and I'm still having night mares about it. LOL. A Machspeed mobo with serious issues "transferring" information from ODD to HDD then to ODD again.... The reason the CRC scanning and QC scans meant NOTHING with this situation is because they (the scans) don't read what the mobo is doing only what has been transferred to the disc... hell it was transferring the information ok but it was bad info to start with.. ROFL. Honestly that is the reason that I don't like BENQ ODD's... I know NOT BENQ's fault but the GM got burned for over a month strait trying to figure that cr@p out that he gave up on the dang company... but BigWilly got a good drive in the mix... heck he's even still using it. lol. ;)
Anyway... I'd scan at 4x or 8x for times sake and then only scan at slow speeds if you think you need to post something pretty. :p 4x and 8x are the norm on many sites for this sort of thing anyway. :P :P
@garMOONy... NO riled feathers here but remember as Robert pointed out... the drives scan differently so the difference in scores... the NEC chipset scans similarly to the old BENQ drives while the "actual" Liteon drives scan with the excepted format.... hehehe. :p @ NEC scanners. :p If you really wanna scan correctly with a Liteon drive find a "new" version of K-probe and check it out... great scanning progie if you ask me.. but this is the Nero scan thread... dang OP limited the scanning progie.. JERK.... hehehehe. :p
Anyway... scan if you want to, don't scan if you don't want to... it's all in fun really... I like to see a LOW PIF total and a sub 9.0 Jitter... other than that I'm pretty easy to please. :p SCORE (overall score that is... 98, 95, 93, etc...) is completely dependent on the LARGEST PIF spike... so if you have a spike of 4 and a total of 4 then your score is a 90..... NO getting around it... it's a 90 in Nero scans eyes.. but in mine it's a 99.9.... the lowest total PIF total I've ever seen or had is a 6... I erased mine by ejecting the disc like a DA.... it was before I really knew that would happen... dang ROOKIE move. LOL. ;) Unjust had one too... but NONE of us saved it... it was a beautiful burn/scan!!! :)
Well the Novella is finished.... read and comment... I likes it. :)
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17. March 2010 @ 18:11 |
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Yes, Milla Jovovich is a MEGA babe LOL! One of my more favorite movies is the fifth element. Looks pretty good in HD. Not like the more modern movies, but it tries pretty hard :D
I scan at 4X because that is what the majority of scanners like myself do. However, in instances like Dual layer dvds, 8X must be used (at least with lite-ons) so that it can scan the second layer. Not sure if momentum has anything to do with it LOL! But it definitely works.
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17. March 2010 @ 19:19 |
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has anyone burned a disc lately (that wasn't a test or something)-something you wanted to keep and had it not play? I haven't. I don't even see pixilation either. Anyone? Give-aways are to let me know-noone has! Not bragging, just think the media and ODD are that good.
Did a Sony today, Boondock Saints 2 (good movie)the drive, 20A1S, when reading, would start and slow down and then speed up again. I'm sure it was the DRMs. AnyDVD had no problem handling them tho. I just watched it. Perfect 100% movie only.
have not scanned it! LOL all's good.
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17. March 2010 @ 20:27 |
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Amazing what a 2X scan will do. LOL Nice scan.
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