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26. March 2010 @ 03:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Here's a randomly chosen 8x -R Yuden, burned at 8x and scanned at 4x. It will play OK, but this is not what I'm accustomed to seeing with Yudens.




For those that think the 2x speed is the 'Magic" key to better scores, here's the same DVD scanned at 2x. The DVD was never out of the drive. It wasn't even ejected after the burn, so it can't be dust or anything like that. Again a 95, but with more than twice the PIFs!




It will play all right, but I never used to see PIFs like that until recent months. I chose this particular DVD to burn because it's the one I copied when I got my last 98. I'll have to see how the new ones Yuden is sending me do. Hopefully this was just a bad batch of DVDs.

In case anyone is wondering, these Yudens don't do too well on the 7240s either! Scanned at 5x, because it doesn't go any slower.




I don't think the NEC likes these Yudens!

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26. March 2010 @ 07:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by theonejrs:

The 7220 seems to be a pretty good reader, and not a bad burner at all. Not quite as good as the 7240, but good enough.

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see i think just the opposite i think the 7220 is way better than the 7240 as far as burning goes. for me i have yet to get a burn from the 7240 i would brag about. but like you said they both do a good job and have not had any playback issues.from any drive.


Originally posted by omegaman7:
That's my thoughts exactly. Lite-on drives(7220) are excellent readers, but aren't always excellent burners. I do trust them to burn though ;) But I treat them MORE like my best readers :) True Optiarcs are excellent burners :D
lol funny thing how everyone looks and feels about the same drive we all have.. i think my best reader is the AD7200S that thing will read anything and has read alot of things even my 20A1S couldnt when i had one. and stuff the 7220 couldnt as well.

in my eyes all this rebadgeing has killed the names of each drive maker. a true litey is awsome in its own way as isa TRUE optaric/nec drive is awsome in its own way. but taking parts from one and adding it to the other just dont go over to well i think. yea they are good drives but not as good as the orginals.
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26. March 2010 @ 09:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well all this talk about the AD7220S and i think mine has died. it wont burn anything it will get to writing leadin and hangs there. ive tried different burning apps same type of issue. tried cds and dvds. thought maybe its a bad sata cable. swapped it out with a new one. same issue. even swapped out a cable from a drive that is working. damn these drives. the only thing i havent tried is pluging it into another sata port. which is next.
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26. March 2010 @ 09:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
what the hell is wrong with the site??? i cant log in then i can. once im in everythign looks like its layered on top of itself.

anyhow. thought i would try one more burn for giggles before swapping out to another port. well burnt fine this time???? dont know whats to think., this same type thing happened to my DH-20A4P
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26. March 2010 @ 09:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by cincyrob:
what the hell is wrong with the site??? i cant log in then i can. once im in everythign looks like its layered on top of itself.

anyhow. thought i would try one more burn for giggles before swapping out to another port. well burnt fine this time???? dont know whats to think., this same type thing happened to my DH-20A4P
I don't think it's the site buddy... I think it's your computer.. hehehe. :P

Your computer is doing some weird things btw. So your DH-20A4P died the same way or it did some strange things then worked ok?? I can't remember. :(

Hope you get it figured out buddy. ;)

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26. March 2010 @ 10:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by greensman:
Originally posted by cincyrob:
what the hell is wrong with the site??? i cant log in then i can. once im in everythign looks like its layered on top of itself.

anyhow. thought i would try one more burn for giggles before swapping out to another port. well burnt fine this time???? dont know whats to think., this same type thing happened to my DH-20A4P
I don't think it's the site buddy... I think it's your computer.. hehehe. :P

Your computer is doing some weird things btw. So your DH-20A4P died the same way or it did some strange things then worked ok?? I can't remember. :(

Hope you get it figured out buddy. ;)


like right now i clicked on the reply to this post to quote you, and there is the reply box ontop of another reply box. since this new format of the site it has been shitty. i cant even sign in from work i can see all threads but cant respond cause i cant login. i can put my name and password in but when i hit enter nothing and i lose everything i typed in.

as for the 20A4p it did the same sort of thing but was different. it is funny how both are doing the same sort of thing cause this drive i just burnt a disc on, i got a really nice scan with it. i dont know?? here is the scan of the drive in question.


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26. March 2010 @ 16:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i got the new Yudens this morning. Here's the first burn on the AD-7220




That looks a lot more like what I'm used to! Having said that, the AD-7220s just died! Tried a new data cable and everything. Put a DVD in it and the green light comes on and stays on. No sounds from the drive at all! Only the tray will open and close. That's the extent of it's capabilities!

I just bought a pair of these Lite-On 24X iHAS124 drives for $47.61, delivered, for the pair!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...-_-27106289-L0G

That's what I get for getting the AD-7220, after being advised to pass on it by the fine folks here at AD! LOL!!

Russ

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26. March 2010 @ 22:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
im looking at 2 of those also russ.did you use the promo code for them? $21.99 each shipped
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26. March 2010 @ 22:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Quote:
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That looks a lot more like what I'm used to! Having said that, the AD-7220s just died! Tried a new data cable and everything. Put a DVD in it and the green light comes on and stays on. No sounds from the drive at all! Only the tray will open and close. That's the extent of it's capabilities!

So what you saying your not gonna give another Optiarc drive a chance again? Like this 1

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118030

Done out of Here!
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26. March 2010 @ 22:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by cincyrob:
im looking at 2 of those also russ.did you use the promo code for them? $21.99 each shipped
Rob,
Yup I used it. There's $3.63 in sales tax. That's why it's $47.61 for 2!

Russ

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26. March 2010 @ 22:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by bigwill68:
Quote:
Russ Wrote:

That looks a lot more like what I'm used to! Having said that, the AD-7220s just died! Tried a new data cable and everything. Put a DVD in it and the green light comes on and stays on. No sounds from the drive at all! Only the tray will open and close. That's the extent of it's capabilities!

So what you saying your not gonna give another Optiarc drive a chance again? Like this 1

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118030
Will,
No! The ihas124 is supposed to be a good drive, so for the price, why not. I already have an Optiarc/NEC AD-7240s!

Russ

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27. March 2010 @ 00:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by theonejrs:
Originally posted by bigwill68:
Quote:
Russ Wrote:

That looks a lot more like what I'm used to! Having said that, the AD-7220s just died! Tried a new data cable and everything. Put a DVD in it and the green light comes on and stays on. No sounds from the drive at all! Only the tray will open and close. That's the extent of it's capabilities!

So what you saying your not gonna give another Optiarc drive a chance again? Like this 1

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118030
Will,
No! The ihas124 is supposed to be a good drive, so for the price, why not. I already have an Optiarc/NEC AD-7240s!

Russ
Besides that the NEC drive will NOT scan like a Liteon... NEVER will and that's one of the reasons for getting a Liteon if you ask me!! :p

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[quote(greensman)Besides that the NEC drive will NOT scan like a Liteon... NEVER will and that's one of the reasons for getting a Liteon if you ask me!! :p

GM,
That was my thinking when I bought the AD-7220s. I knew it was a Lite-On, and it does read and burn very well, but it's not a Lite-On, Lite-On, if you get my drift! It also only lasted a year, with far less use than the AD-7240 got!

Best Regards,
Russ

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27. March 2010 @ 09:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yea but the new liteons ihas/ihap they have nec chipsets in them so yes they scan but wont do the jitter test. think im ordering the ihas 124 now.
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27. March 2010 @ 10:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by cincyrob:
yea but the new liteons ihas/ihap they have nec chipsets in them so yes they scan but wont do the jitter test. think im ordering the ihas 124 now.
order me a couple Robert... :D

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27. March 2010 @ 10:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by greensman:
Originally posted by cincyrob:
yea but the new liteons ihas/ihap they have nec chipsets in them so yes they scan but wont do the jitter test. think im ordering the ihas 124 now.
order me a couple Robert... :D
GM,
According to reviews on the internet, the ihas124-04 does do the Jitter Test.

Russ

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27. March 2010 @ 11:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by theonejrs:
Originally posted by greensman:
Originally posted by cincyrob:
yea but the new liteons ihas/ihap they have nec chipsets in them so yes they scan but wont do the jitter test. think im ordering the ihas 124 now.
order me a couple Robert... :D
GM,
According to reviews on the internet, the ihas124-04 does do the Jitter Test.

Russ
Yeh .. i know. :p I just don't know if I wanna buy a couple and have another 2 ODD's setting on the shelf or just hold off and use the 8-10 I have now. ROFL. :p BTW I'm trying to get Robert to buy a couple so be quiet and he might just do it!! :D Oh... they'll drop ship 'em too Robert... just keep that in mind. hehehehehehehe. :p

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27. March 2010 @ 13:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well i ordered 1. was gonna get 2 but im gonna buy some disc also.so about wed so should have it.

depending on which chipset it has in it, it will do jitter. been doing some reading on it over at CD freaks.
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27. March 2010 @ 15:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Think I'll order another Opti7240S at $25 shipped that'll give a spare 7240S and also have a 7200S sitting on shelf. My wife's gonna kill me. LOL I still have the 20A1S Litey as my reader.
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28. March 2010 @ 12:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
forgot to ask yesterday, but Russ why did you have tax on yours? because you in sunny California as is their warehouse? 21.99 shipped is all i paid for 1.depending on how i like it when i get it i might get another for the RC690 rig.
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28. March 2010 @ 17:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Here's a Modified Firmware burn. I modified TYG02 MID to use the writing strategy of DVD-R Verbatim, which allows 16X. Not too bad for what it is ;) Imgburn compared to ISO, with only one miscompare at the very start. I must admit, I was expecting to see very pretty colors toward the end LOL!





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28. March 2010 @ 17:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ha ha! I'm quickly becoming a true cd freak :p I've now modded the firmware to allow 6 and 8X speeds on MKM 001 discs(2.4X - 4X) :D Exactly what I was after. I'll likely burn one at 8X tonight, and see how it fairs on the BD player :D



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28. March 2010 @ 18:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by omegaman7:
Ha ha! I'm quickly becoming a true cd freak :p I've now modded the firmware to allow 6 and 8X speeds on MKM 001 discs(2.4X - 4X) :D Exactly what I was after. I'll likely burn one at 8X tonight, and see how it fairs on the BD player :D
You prolly won't like it but who knows which ODD is gonna do well and which one isn't. :) I would just accept 4x and go on. :p

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Originally posted by cincyrob:
forgot to ask yesterday, but Russ why did you have tax on yours? because you in sunny California as is their warehouse? 21.99 shipped is all i paid for 1.depending on how i like it when i get it i might get another for the RC690 rig.
Yeh... he in Cali. ;) About 20 minutes from the warehouse me thinks. :)

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28. March 2010 @ 18:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ya don't think so eh GM? I suppose the difference in recording dyes is significant enough to merit concern. But if it works, HECK YAH LOL! I'll also employ the learning capabilities...



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