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The Official PC building thread - 4th Edition
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21. January 2012 @ 10:54 |
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X25-V - ATTO seems to have difficulty with the write speed limitation on this SSD. Lots of background activity going on during this bench however. Test is reasonably agreeing with the 35MB/s write and 185MB/s read limitation.
WD20EARS from gaming PC - Pretty consistent there, shows how much of a difference there is between SSDs and Eco hard drives! 57.5MB/s write and 60MB/s read, all the way down.
WD1001FALS from gaming PC - Also pretty consistent, at a spomewhat improved 75MB/s write and 80MB/s read.
WD10EADS connected via eSATA - You'd think from those results, that 50MB/s was an interface limitation...
Intel 320 series SSD in server - More consistent SSD results from a system more at idle, 48MB/s write and 195MB/s read.
WD5000AAKS from third PC - thought I'd test this as there seem to be some bad sector issues with this drive. They didn't seem to affect this test though, 74.5MB/s write, 73.5MB/s read...
It's worth pointing out that these mechanical disks are all brimmed to capacity. Were they being tested empty, the results would be a lot higher.
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21. January 2012 @ 11:00 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Russ,
There is something wrong with your test metrics that I didn't pickup on originally? Write speeds should be less than Reads. Also it is not a good idea to perform write tests on an SSD in a Benchmark fashion, which is why I didn't post that in my test.
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Stevo,
I think it because it's in IDE mode. My neighbors does it in IDE Mode, but once he got ACHI installed the writes are now smaller. Even so it's still well below it's max write speed of 490MB/s. It's not the full version of ATTO either, it's the free one!
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Russ
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25. January 2012 @ 15:52 |
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I think I may have found my bluescreen/memory issue. The northbridge running at 2200Mhz seems to have been the problem, while running in XMP mode. I dropped to default northbridge settings, with XMP settings. I ran memtest86+ and no errors. It is however possible, that a voltage increase would correct the issue. My board is quickly becoming dated though. So the way I see it, anymore overclocking at this point, is approaching an area of diminished returns ;) X264 is where I like to see gains, and my Quad core really is limited in this area. I'm lucky to shave off 30 - 45 min of a 5 - 6hr job. That's the length of time I generally sleep. I just don't see the point. Perhaps with gaming it could be a thing. But it'd probably only be a couple more frames per second. Which is hardly noticeable.
Man I hate my job. They take forever to issue our W-2's :(
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25. January 2012 @ 23:22 |
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ive got a bit of an issue have you guys every owned a WD7502AAEX or a larger equivilant. it makes this god awful noise...its hard to explain its like the rattling noise you hear from car windows when there slammed or your musics to loud is this a normal sound? it only does it during a read/write cycle simultaneously, and the harddrive is secured. could it be the heads are snapping back and forth very quickly to a different location on the disk.
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25. January 2012 @ 23:32 |
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It sure sounds like the heads are rattling/shuttering some. You better make sure your backed up, if you still have warranty on your drive initiate a RMA with WD and get your drive replaced. If not you should think about replacing it soon as a head crash will be inevitable if that is your problem.
I have that drive, several actually, and have had no problems at all but then that doesn't help you or mean you don't/won't have problems of course.
One other thing that is could be is the bearings as they could be getting bad too but either way it is time to replace it before worst things happen.
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25. January 2012 @ 23:40 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
It sure sounds like the heads are rattling/shuttering some. You better make sure your backed up, if you still have warranty on your drive initiate a RMA with WD and get your drive replaced. If not you should think about replacing it soon as a head crash will be inevitable if that is your problem.
I have that drive, several actually, and have had no problems at all but then that doesn't help you or mean you don't/won't have problems of course.
One other thing that is could be is the bearings as they could be getting bad too but either way it is time to replace it before worst things happen.
Ive already RMA'd 2 of these dame things in 3 months....im just going to buy a seagate scew these f%$king performance drives. ive already paid dame near 100 Bucks in 2 Day shipping fees.
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25. January 2012 @ 23:42 |
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DXR88, edit your post.
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25. January 2012 @ 23:49 |
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That's some bad luck for sure. 3rd time was apparently a charm for me. My V-Raptor appears to be better than both of the previous drives. I'd still like an SSD though. But I'm leaning more toward blowing my Ca$h wad on a camera this year. I'm sick of using a cheap point and shoot. I want the real deal now. And the pictures I've seen people take with high dollar camera's are nothing short of breathtaking! I want that LOL!
A canon T3i for instance, or a Canon 60D. Not decided yet...
I have expensive habits/hobbies :p
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26. January 2012 @ 00:15 |
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Canon is the way to go Nikon just isn't the camera of choice anymore, more pros use Canon.
A man with your wallet should be looking at the EOS-1Ds Mark III, guarantied great pictures from that camera.
But if you are really bent on Nikon you might want to go for the D3X as it is a pretty decent camera too.
I've been a Canon user most of my life and also Olympus too but I did make a big mistake and got a Minolta peace of crap last time, what a mistake I will not make again. I definitely could see getting the 60D as it is a decent mid-low end true SLR camera. Most likely I'll buy the 7D though, one step up from the 60.
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26. January 2012 @ 00:30 |
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I've been told that the lens (more or less) makes the camera. The T3i/T2i is a very decent starter camera for me. I have been tempted for the 60D though, because it's supposedly a quicker camera. I've been scouring the proper forums on this ;) This is a building thread, sorry I brought it up. I tend to ramble at times LOL!
LOL!!! My wallet isn't that big :p
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26. January 2012 @ 00:59 |
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Not totally true as you can use the same lens on both these days depending on what you are looking at. Your also right speed for sports shots depends on camera body more importantly than the lens although it too is important, but also program functions, mega pixels and a few other things enter in.
It's a digital camera and can be tethered by one of our computer builds so not to far off the mark. LOL
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26. January 2012 @ 01:16 |
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i Went From RAID Mode to AHCI Mode.....and that rattling sound quit....how the hell does that work <.<. i notice SMART Wasn't passing through the RAID Controller when i ran diagnostic tools with AHCI..SMART Passed through. Odd i think it has something to do with SMART but its just a drive monitoring tool.
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26. January 2012 @ 01:29 |
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I would doubt the SMART had anything to do with it and would suspect the RAID tool(s) or the media it's self.
Run the WD Diag tool on the drive(s) and see if it finds bad sectors and marks them or comes up with some diag codes. The RAID system could have been trying to pound on a bad sector(s) which possibly caused extensive read/writes...
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26. January 2012 @ 03:51 |
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Originally posted by DXR88:
Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
It sure sounds like the heads are rattling/shuttering some. You better make sure your backed up, if you still have warranty on your drive initiate a RMA with WD and get your drive replaced. If not you should think about replacing it soon as a head crash will be inevitable if that is your problem.
I have that drive, several actually, and have had no problems at all but then that doesn't help you or mean you don't/won't have problems of course.
One other thing that is could be is the bearings as they could be getting bad too but either way it is time to replace it before worst things happen.
Ive already RMA'd 2 of these dame things in 3 months....im just going to buy a seagate scew these f%$king performance drives. ive already paid dame near 100 Bucks in 2 Day shipping fees.
DXR88,
I have 2 questions for you. Have you experienced and Data loss or corrupted files with the drive? What is your case made of? I've seen a few Aluminum cases where the case actually amplifies the drive noise. They make rubber bushings that go in between the bay slot and the drive that will quiet that situation down, if this is the case. I don't think it's spindle bearings, because they generally make noise all the time when they are bad. Just saying.
Best Regards,
Russ
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26. January 2012 @ 04:31 |
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He is running RAID so unless the RAID completely breaks down I doubt he will see data loss, of course that depends on his RAID structure too i.e., RAID 5 vs. RAID 0, but he may need to rebuild his RAID as it could be corrupted which will cause everything to work harder, as it seems to be doing possibly.
So really to get down to tacks we would need to know the whole story/configuration, is it external or internal?, are there mixed drives and sizes?, what RAID level are you running?, is your RAID controller software based? Server card? Desktop PC MB controller? and so on and so on...
I thought it sounded fishy when he said it was his third drive that he had issues with. Although one could have that kind of bad luck it is highly improbable.
RAID dictates more expense and more complications so to resolve issues it isn't always obvious, simple, or easy.
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26. January 2012 @ 06:21 |
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Its setting in JBOD at the moment with Software spanning, i was going to put together a RAID 1&0 but that plans on hold....Again. that rattling sound was the HDD attempting to re-calibrate itself it failed twice but succeed the third time hence why the noise stopped. im just glade these dame thing have a 5 year warrenty.
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26. January 2012 @ 06:34 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
He is running RAID so unless the RAID completely breaks down I doubt he will see data loss, of course that depends on his RAID structure too i.e., RAID 5 vs. RAID 0, but he may need to rebuild his RAID as it could be corrupted which will cause everything to work harder, as it seems to be doing possibly.
So really to get down to tacks we would need to know the whole story/configuration, is it external or internal?, are there mixed drives and sizes?, what RAID level are you running?, is your RAID controller software based? Server card? Desktop PC MB controller? and so on and so on...
I thought it sounded fishy when he said it was his third drive that he had issues with. Although one could have that kind of bad luck it is highly improbable.
RAID dictates more expense and more complications so to resolve issues it isn't always obvious, simple, or easy.
Three failed products in a row is far more common than you might think if it's a known problematic product.
Raid and AHCI work in odd ways with the newest WD drives. Keep an eye on it but you should be OK I think.
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30. January 2012 @ 06:49 |
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Russ,
I DL'd ATTO and ran your tests on my SSD's which did pretty well but your right if I was using a SATA3 in my Desktop I'd be closer to your yields. You'll notice that I have added my new Corsair 60GB SSD to my new notebook so now I have two drives in it, the 60GB SSD and the WD 640GB SATA2 drive. Everything is running AHCI, no IDE interfaces.
One thing to notice, at least on my laptop, is that with ATTO Benchmark I'm running right close to the spec'd 270MB claim from the manufacture, AIDA shows a slightly lower rate(s).
Here are the results;
NOTEBOOK
AIDA64 Benchmark Corsair SSD 60GB
ATTO Benchmark v2.74 Corsair SSD 60GB
AIDA64 Benchmark WD SATA3 640GB
ATTO Benchmark v2.74 WD SATA3 640GB
DESKTOP PC
ATTO Benchmark v2.74 SanDisk SSD 120GB
ATTO Benchmark v2.74 Seagate ST1000524AS SATA3 1TB
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2. February 2012 @ 15:59 |
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Woo currently averaging 25-30Mbps down. Gotta love improving service :D
Not to mention my prices haven't changed since I got this line at 18Mbps down.
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2. February 2012 @ 16:05 |
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I'm likely moving out here in ~30 days. I'm moving to a larger neighboring city. 7Mb connections are easily obtained there. I actually think 15Mb is more commonplace. Can't wait! Be quite some time before I get more than 15 I think. I'm actually quite pleased with my current 5Mb though :p
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2. February 2012 @ 16:16 |
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Only wish my service was dedicated like my last ISP. But 1.3Mb/s dedicated pales in comparison to a 20Mb+ shared line. Luckily I'm in a rather geriatric neighborhood so I don't have to share very often and I'm guaranteed my 18Mb/s even on heavy days :P
Most days I average 20-30 but it goes up to 32-33 in spikes. That works out to about 2.5-3MB/s, making spikes to 3.5 and above, infrequently touching 4MB/s.
Not only that but more speed boosts will be coming before too long. Charter says to expect at least 2 more. One to improve uploads yet again and one more to improve downloads.
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2. February 2012 @ 16:21 |
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Ha ha! Charter is in the town I'm moving to. Excellent!
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2. February 2012 @ 17:18 |
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What sort of upload do you get?
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2. February 2012 @ 17:33 |
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I see that their "Ultra" package, offers 5Mb upload. Which translates to arount 500kB/s ;) That's insane. That's my current DOWNLOAD speed! Jealous!
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2. February 2012 @ 17:36 |
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That's about right then. It concerns me when high speed download connections are given very weak uploads. The 4:1 ratio with FTTC in the UK (40 down, 10 up) is about right for heavy users. More asynchronous than that is annoying, especially at slightly lower speeds - the max upload speed for ADSL2 unless you have an Annex M service is 1.3Mbps, even if you get the full 24Mbps downstream.
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