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18. May 2006 @ 03:36 |
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probably one of my "not as good ones" lately, but, still pretty decent by most standards...same settings as before:
total quality score is lower than my 99 at the top of the previous page, but the PIE is 100x lower, which is a good thing :)
docTY~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
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dutchmo
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18. May 2006 @ 13:37 |
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this is my first burn since upgrading the firmware, everyhing looks ok except the jitter, Im going to rescan it later with my 1650 to see if it comes out the same
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18. May 2006 @ 23:18 |
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just bored, this one is on par with MOST of my backups :)
i've just recently enabled solidburn for KNOWN media too, as it's usually OFF by default for known media, but on for unknown media...don't really know if it REALLY does help, but my PIE have gone done considerably after a re-flashed my 1650 again with a speedpatched BCHC~ :) i dunno...i don't put THAT much weight on these quality scans, but when i'm bored like i am now, these results seem pretty good to me...
burned @8x (as i always do), all other settings same as before other than enabling SB for KNOWN media too...
interesting thread...good times :)
docTY~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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19. May 2006 @ 10:38 |
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@zebadee,
Just a warning. I just ordered a benq 1650 so I will probably be bothering you as to what is the best f/w and settings for this drive. You appear to be "da man". Thanks and let me know if You'd rather not be bothered.
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Husker13
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19. May 2006 @ 11:14 |
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Please forgive my 'Newbieism'! I just tried to run a 'disc quality' scan for the first time using Nero CD/DVD Speed using my new Sony DRU 820A drive, which according to an AfterDawn thread link, is made by BenQ using a Matsushita chipset. I got an error message saying "Drive does not support this function"
Am I doing something wrong? Is there something inherently wrong with this drive? I've only used the DRU 820A 3 times so far, and the burns have been what I think are pretty good quality using; Alkohol's latest guide, with DVDFAB Decrypter, VobBlanker and Nero Recode 2. Right now I'm using some Sony D21 MIJ media, while I'm waiting for my order of Taiyo Yudens to arrive from Rima.
Is there any way to know which BenQ drive model this Sony would be the most like?
Thanks, in advance, for any help you can be!
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zebadee
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19. May 2006 @ 11:48 |
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Hi,
@ Mort81, Feel free to ask, you should have a response to your initial questions.
@Husker13, Your Sony 820, just like BenQs 1670 is based on a Panasonic chip which doesn't support disc quality scanning. You need a true BenQ or Lite-On.
@kivory666, You should find that enabling SB for known media will pay dividends in the long run. You can also try disabling WOPC when using - media, this can also affect jitter. Thus lowering PIE a little more. Doesn't work so well with + media for some reason.( I believe this is because when disabling WOPC: with - media it's not complete (in other words WOPC still functions, but at a reduced rate). Whereas with + media WOPC is disabled in the true sense. A case of where less is more. None is too much.
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redice
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19. May 2006 @ 13:31 |
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@ kivory666 or zebadee
i'm using the BCFC firmware for my benQ 1650 and i was wondering how the BCHC firmwareis working out for you guys. Are you all having any probelms with it?
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19. May 2006 @ 13:43 |
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i'll chip in here a bit, both versions of the firmware are giving me concerns (not problems, my burns, touch wood, so far, are fine), but i'm not happy how the MCC004 for instance, don't seem to be properly supported in either firmware. (i'm new to Benq drives/firmware so no-one shoot me), but i've made my comments elsewhere in this thread. i've also commented in a big thread over at cdfreaks website, and interestingly there's been no firm answers as yet as to why this anomaly with the firmware seems to exist
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zebadee
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19. May 2006 @ 13:48 |
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Hi,
redice, I'm currently using BCHC without any problems. I believe that BCFC may well be better in terms of flexability (ie less fussy). However the potential may be greater with BCHC. I plan on doing some comparisons over the w/e as I'm trying to find out if SB algorithm has been changed/improved in BCHC. If so this could be why it's picky & apparently causing some folks problems. So you may want to stick with BCFC for now.
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redice
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19. May 2006 @ 13:55 |
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ok thanks zebadee and in that case i will stay with BCFC until i here something other wise.
@creaky
yeah i had read about the issuses with the MCC004 but i think i will stick with BCFC for now.
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19. May 2006 @ 13:59 |
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cool. i won't be flashing back as all my media are working fine (so far) so not gonna tempt fate. hopefully something will turn up soon
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redice
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19. May 2006 @ 14:01 |
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yeah all my media seems to be working fine as well so believe its best to leave it alone.
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zebadee
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19. May 2006 @ 14:35 |
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Hi,
@creaky & everyone else that's curious. Currently BenQs f/w situation with both the 1650 & 1655 is strange to say the least. The ftp sites that would normally list f/w once it's been released (& listed on global site) for about a week or more. Lists only BCDB(1655) & BCDC(1650). BCFC despite being found on units sold to the 'public' is still only listed on one site (China). So the support (or lack of it) for media such as MCC 004 is only part of the picture. The lack of response shows that no-one is really in the know. It could that despite BenQ by default leaves SB disabled for known media, as Philips has SB enabled for all media. BenQ is assuming (they have already in a info sheet[which seems to have gone since the sites were recently updated]recommended that SB be enabled for all media) that SB will be enabled. As a result are playing around with strategies & support of certain media. In theory once SB has been developed further + possibly being enabled by default for all media (even removal of the ability for user enabling/disabling). Strategies as we've known them could become a thing of the past.
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19. May 2006 @ 14:45 |
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If I'm using strictly Taiyo Yuden media is there any compelling reason to change from BCDB? I'm getting consistent 95% and above burns so I guess my question is more hypothetical than anything.
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19. May 2006 @ 15:03 |
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@zebadee - cheers, sounds likely to me...
@Neph, i had any burns turn out fine with shipped firmware BCFC, i just updated to BCHC cus i could :)
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19. May 2006 @ 18:58 |
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@zebadee
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@kivory666, You should find that enabling SB for known media will pay dividends in the long run. You can also try disabling WOPC when using - media, this can also affect jitter. Thus lowering PIE a little more. Doesn't work so well with + media for some reason.( I believe this is because when disabling WOPC: with - media it's not complete (in other words WOPC still functions, but at a reduced rate). Whereas with + media WOPC is disabled in the true sense. A case of where less is more. None is too much.
yes, i figured as much, THANK YOU for confirming that for me; much as my buddy mort81 concluded, it was I that mentioned you by name to him as being the "benq MAN" on here, i'm still learning myself and i follow your suggestions when i feel i could improve upon my own benq 1650. :) you are a huge asset to the Benq arena (users) here on AfterDawn~
@redice
as zebadee and creaky mentioned already, i too have NOT had any problems with the BCHC firmware for the 1650, while i usually do not go into as much detail as the others do regarding firmware, i think my overall success has been good due to the fact i no longer have any more MCC004 to use that were giving some users problems along the lines of recognized firmware/media write strategies...i use primarily MCC003 and YUDEN000T02/YUDEN000T03 when it comes to my media of choice these days, no ill effects so far for me :)
thanks for all the informative talk in this Benq thread guys, i check in here periodically to see if there is anything new i can add/flash to improve quality/performance on my own Benq, definitely a good read.
docTY~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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20. May 2006 @ 03:55 |
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I'll stick with the BCDC fw for my 1650. I've got the BCFC on the harddrive,waiting to be unzipped.I'll probably do like creaky,and wait for a couple more update options available.
Zebadee: You're way outta my league on the knowledge of benq drives and their firmware, LOL.
BTW Zeb, Did you get your user name from Doogal? I noticed that character's name when I backed it up this week, LOL
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redice
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20. May 2006 @ 07:57 |
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@ kivory666
thanks for the ifromation but i think i will stay with the firmware that i have now until everything gets worked out or they release anothter firmware version.
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20. May 2006 @ 21:35 |
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@redice
as ddp would say, teach and learn~ :) just making other options available to you...i'm still fairly new to the Benq burner scene, learning as i go along as well...
docTY~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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23. May 2006 @ 15:33 |
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I have been burning the Ritek P16's pretty exclusively til they are gone. After about 12 burns I am now starting to get 94 -95% quality scans with it consistantly. Using the BCHC firmware from TDB's. About a dozen of them left til I hit the MCC-004's.
Cheers.
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23. May 2006 @ 17:51 |
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What I'm about to post may be a first for this Benq Scan Hall of Fame. Here's an actual "On The Fly"- rip and burn using:
Nero oem 6.6.0.14's copy disc feature
Anydvd v 5.9.6.1
Brand new Cheaper by the Dozen flipped disc,which is a dvd-5
Benq 1650
MCC-004
Burned at 8x!
95! Better than I expected for On the Fly ripping/burning of an original dvd-5!
I do love my Q's!
I'll have to check out OTF for a dual layer!
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23. May 2006 @ 19:20 |
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When he isn't fishing he's the Chuck Yeager of disc burning :P
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24. May 2006 @ 00:55 |
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I'll be fishing today after work. Saugeyes Beware!
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24. May 2006 @ 01:45 |
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Sorry to be off-topic but what version is that of NERO above?
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24. May 2006 @ 01:55 |
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Nero oem 6.6.0.14
:)
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