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crowy
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8. June 2006 @ 15:43 |
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@theonejrs,
Looks like your having as much fun as me!!
I like your idea with the memory.
But I dont think you done yet:)
Im sure you can get higher on the fsb and up the memory voltage a tad without any trouble.Upping the mem voltage by even .1 volts really makes a difference.
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 8. June 2006 @ 15:44
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FIHSNERD
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8. June 2006 @ 18:19 |
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O.K. i am sorry to bardge in.. and yes, my english sucks.. but what do i do with my computer, how can i tell if the cpu is fried.. my dad is going to talk to mwave and amd or whatever and see if he can replace it.. but i dont think that it is the cpu that is gone, btw: the system would not boot for a while when the video card was not pluged in.. i dont know it that is revelent, i am just stating.. Please help me, i dont want to spend money, if i dont half to...
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Triock91
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crowy
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8. June 2006 @ 18:40 |
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@FIHSNERD,
Have you tried clearing CMOS?
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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8. June 2006 @ 20:02 |
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crowy,
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Looks like your having as much fun as me!!
I sure am!!! I see you use Sandra 2007! I went back to 2005. I don't like the fact that the results are hard to read on any screen and the really big one for me is that you can't maximize the results window. You can't read whats on a line as far as what you are comparing to and there's no slider to uncover what you can't see.
I've backed this one down to 3.80. I also bumped the DDR Refrence voltage to 2.65, changed the memory settings to 2.5-4-4-6. Runs good, numbers look good and seems quick. I've got to do some video work tomorrow so I'll see how that goes.
Just a word of encouragement. I've run my Corsair cas2 memory at 490MHz with no problems, I see you're at 458 so if you have their cas2 memory you can pretty well bet you have more room for memory speed. That is If the CPU can take the increase. I don't know very much about AMD processors in recent years All my AMD builds were socket 7 and socket A. I've got to learn more about the differences between AMD and Intel setups. My build was supposed to be an AMD Opteron 175. Didn't happen that way though!
Happy Computering,
theonejrs
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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crowy
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8. June 2006 @ 22:22 |
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@theonejrs,
Still going!!
I've relaxed the memory timings 2.5/4/4/10
Memory is on a 5/6 divider effectively 474mhz.
HTT is at 4x =1896mhz(default is 2000)
CPU is at 285x10 multiplier=2850mhz
Anyway heres the new benches:-)
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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9. June 2006 @ 07:02 |
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COngrats crowy, that's looking like at least 5000+ territory, if not FX-60.
Fihsnerd, if the mobo doesn't have its own graphics chip, it won't boot without a graphics card. Mine doesn't. A test of putting the CPu in a new PC will give us the info we need. However, it does need to be compatible and you need to remove the H/S and thermal compound/pad first!
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FIHSNERD
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9. June 2006 @ 18:16 |
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yes, i said that earlier.. :) i pulled out the battery for an hour and a half. plus my dad reset the jumper the second time.. i dono what to do.. BTW: i want wait till conroes are released!!! i am soo getting one.. Sorry AMD!!
sorry...
but i am just going to get a amd 64 3800 if the chip is fried, my dad is trying to RMA it to AMD,, but we know that is going to take a while..
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crowy
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9. June 2006 @ 18:19 |
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Well,looks like 2.85GHZ is where I will stop for now.
CPU temp was hitting 50-53 degrees celcius @2.90GHZ!!
CPU voltage @1.73 volts
Memory voltage @3.2 volts(that impressed me!!)
Ambient room temp @14 degrees celsius(I bought a thermometer)
With a tuniq 120 cpu cooler and some top line memory,3.0GHZ is hopefully on the horizon.
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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FIHSNERD
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9. June 2006 @ 18:20 |
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jeesss thats cold... ... Burrr///
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crowy
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9. June 2006 @ 18:25 |
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@FIHSNERD,
1.Make sure that your psu is unplugged when you try to clear the cmos with the jumper.
2.If you have 2 ram sticks try removing them and put one back in at a time in slot 1.
3.What exactly happens when you switch the computer on,does it boot at all or not?
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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FIHSNERD
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9. June 2006 @ 18:33 |
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O yeah, it boots, but nothing comes up on the screen, and i have 1 stick of ram, Crucial BTW... it is cheap, but not value ram.. and he did not reset the jumper as far as i know, but he said that that would have been easier than taking out the cmos battery..
i dono what to do.. HELP.. btw: thanx for helping me out..
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crowy
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9. June 2006 @ 18:48 |
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@FIHSNERD,
Have you got the manual for the mainboard?
If you have,have a look at the jumper locations and look for the cmos clear jumper.Make sure the psu is unplugged and then remove the jumper from the board.It will probably be a different colour by the way(usally yellow or blue).The jumper will sit over a set of 3 pins but only be making contact with 2 of them(the centre pin and one of the others).Note which pins the jumper is located on then remove it and place it back on the opposite pin along with the centre pin.Leave it there for 3 or 4 seconds then put it back in its original position.Plug your psu back in
and keep your fingers crossed:)
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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9. June 2006 @ 18:48 |
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FIHSNERD
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9. June 2006 @ 18:57 |
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That sounds pretty (good about right).. i will do it tomorrow. i am at my aunts house right now.. who has an emachine 3500 which i could have used to test my cpu!!! GRRR... OoOo well, we will see. and my mobo box has the manual, and it has a floppy that came with it.. i dono what is on it.. but i have one.. and do you think that i will even be ab le to find the bios for this crappy mobo.. ??? if it works i will be both of yalls bithcs.. lol like i aint already...
lol.. thanx for the help
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crowy
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9. June 2006 @ 19:17 |
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@FIHSNERD,
One more thing,have a listen when the computer starts up to the beep.
This should be the same as what you used to hear when your computer was running fine.If it isnt (IE: If you used too hear 1 short beep but now hear 2 short beeps or 1 long beep or whatever,there is a problem.)Your mainboard manual should have information on bios beep codes and what they mean.Also, if your board has onboard graphics,remove your graphics card and plug your monitor into the onboard grahics socket, reset the jumper again and see how that goes.
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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10. June 2006 @ 02:27 |
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Yeah. There are various different problems that could cause this. 14ºC in a room? No wonder it's only running at 50. Heavens above, my room's more than double that, with a deskfan and the window open, and it's only 11:25!
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PeterG969
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10. June 2006 @ 04:06 |
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i PAL could madly overlcock his pc.LOL his room temp is not 14 its -35
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FIHSNERD
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10. June 2006 @ 06:07 |
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Peter, Please in a nice way,\" if you have nothing to help us, or indulgue us with, other than your idiosy, please leave, and keep your rasist comments to your self."
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10. June 2006 @ 06:17 |
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Let's keep this thread to valuable contributions.
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10. June 2006 @ 06:26 |
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So in terms of clock speed, how can you compare AMD and Intel? From what I understand, an Intel running at 3.4Ghz is not as fast as an AMD running at anywhere near the same speed. For example when crowy says he OC's his to 3800+ to 2.8Ghz, what speed would that equate to an Intel? What is the difference, and how do you make relative comparisons? Thanks.
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10. June 2006 @ 06:35 |
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AMD started naming their product in a way to somewhat equate to Intel. From what i understand the 3800+ AMD equates to a Pentium 3.8
AMD is usin maybe 2.0 or in my case 2.2Ghz for a "processor speed" equal to Intel running 3.8 - Architecture of the chip allows one to do the same speeds with less work. That is a newbie generalization so experts please dont rip my explanation, just trying to help and let me know how to explain things better next time.
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FIHSNERD
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10. June 2006 @ 06:58 |
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ok their are multiple ways, look at the AMD model number such as an amd 3700.. it would equate to an intel 3.6 to an 3.8. and same with the duel cores.. they are just better in multitasking...
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FIHSNERD
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10. June 2006 @ 06:59 |
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btw guys.. and gals, cross your fingers, my dad is bringing over the chip to test it in the emachine..
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10. June 2006 @ 08:22 |
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Cool. Good luck.
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10. June 2006 @ 09:14 |
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DUDE.. Yes.. it isnt the CPU.. it is the motherboard... YES YES...
but, i am getting the 1900XT but, where can i find a power connector for it, i am using the 450WT that came with the case.. i think it is called a y collector or somthing.. Thanx,
and i was thinking asus over msi this time, what do yall think?
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