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5. June 2007 @ 14:35 |
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cincyrob,
the E4300 and E4400 have been out for some time. the main differences are that they are 800 fsb as opposed 1066 fsb with E6300 and E6400. these all only have 2M L2 cache as opposed to 4M L2 cache with the E6600 and up. the 4000 series are good OC'ers due to their lower fsb. intel now offers the E6320 and E6420 which also have 4M L2 cache.
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5. June 2007 @ 15:41 |
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so than for someone like me that isnt really gonna do much with it other than burn movies and make cd's and such simple stuff like that the E4300/4400 is all i really need. i know i dont need the 1066fsbso the 4300 is cheaper.
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5. June 2007 @ 17:58 |
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cincyrob,
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so than for someone like me that isnt really gonna do much with it other than burn movies and make cd's and such simple stuff like that the E4300/4400 is all i really need. i know i dont need the 1066fsbso the 4300 is cheaper.
I use my E4300 for the same things as you. My DVD Rebuilder/CCE times are usually under 45 minutes. Here's my set up.
GigaByte GA-965P-DS3 v1.33
Intel E4300 1.8GHz @3.275GHz (82% OC)
Arctic Freezer 7 Pro
G.Skil PC26400 Cas4 2x1GB
Thermaltake TR-2 500 Watt PS
Seagate Sata 3.0 160GB
XFX 7600GT 256 DDR3
Asus 16x DVD-Rom
NEC OPtiarc 16x DVDRW
Cooler Master Cavalier case - Silver
I was very careful in my selection of components and asked around to folks with more experience than me with C2Ds. Everything I listed above is good high quality, better than average components. It was the easiest build of my life. No problems and it's fast. A good deal faster than the D-940 it replaced. Not the fastest, but I don't game much so it's more than fast enough for me.
The motherboard comes with HD Audio which has to be heard to be believed. I retired my Sound Blaster Live! Plugged the Coax into the SPDIF out on the MB and the SPDIF in on my Sony and it's awsome sounding. I use Power DVD 7 and you truely get the theater sound experience.
If you have any questions about my choices or tweaks, just drop me a PM and I'll be glad to answer them for you.
EDIT TO ALL:
Anyone with a Silver case that wants to go through the trouble of having a Silver floppy drive, since no one seems to make one, (I did) Get Dupli-Color #8800910 Arctic Silver(M) Part #26916 80910. What can I say, I'm fussy!
Just carefully remove the 3 plastic parts being careful not to lose the spring for the door flap. Wash carefully and paint. The push-button can be mounted on a bent paper clip to paint. Be sure to shake the can vigorously for about 2 minutes and keep shaking it between sprays. About 4 light coats does a fine job. I'll send some pics when my roomie gets back from out of town! Looks nice and very professional!
Clock On,
Russ
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That's an interesting one, Silver floppy drives were available when I bought my PC last year (because I remember accidentally selecting one).
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6. June 2007 @ 04:25 |
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Sammorris,
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That's an interesting one, Silver floppy drives were available when I bought my PC last year (because I remember accidentally selecting one).
All you can find these days is "Generic" Silver plastic parts kits for ridiculous prices that may or may not fit. That's all I've been able to find on the net! I'll post a pic when Russell gets back. It really looks nice. I guess since floppies are long dead, it isn't worth the bother and expense. I'm just a fussy SOB. I like for things to be just so! I still need one because I do several transfers of data to CD every year for customers and it's good money, so I need it. I even have a Teac Dual drive with both 5.25 and 3.50 on it but it's just too ugly and old fashioned looking for my tastes! Damn things cost about $45 these days, So I'm not about to throw it away. I still come across data that needs to be transfered from 5.25s to CD. maybe once or twice a year so it's not worth selling and it's paid for itself many times over.
Best Regards,
Russ
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6. June 2007 @ 08:48 |
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My floppy drive is installed in my case but hasn't been connected for months, I've enough cabling issues as it is lol.
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6. June 2007 @ 19:27 |
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I don't know much about computers, but when I bought a new computer recently I was told (by a someone who builds computers) that Intel was the way to go. So far I have not had any trouble with my P4 and am very impressed with its functionality.
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6. June 2007 @ 21:32 |
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it was good advice. both are good but Intel is king for the time being. AMD will be back in the ballgame soon though
good to see you guys haven't posted much in here as of late so HI everyone!
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6. June 2007 @ 22:01 |
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About my 17inch screen... I love my Sceptre Naga and I'll thank you not to put it down :P
I've already talked to my friend's parents and from what they told me the $600 was the budget they set up with him. So unless he can do some sweet-talking that's the budget I'm looking at.
And for the $150 build price... I'm getting paid to have fun. I won't complain :)
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6. June 2007 @ 22:39 |
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Well kiddies,
Here's my silver drive project. Turned out pretty good. Considering the drive is about 5 years old, I think it looks very nice indeed!
One of the blanks above the drives is where I'm going to drill a hole for the Potentiometer for the Silverstone Fan Control.
Clock On,
theone
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6. June 2007 @ 22:57 |
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Estuansis,
For the bucks you have to work with you might well consider one of these from TigerDirect!
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...CCODE=WEM1379GB
It would certainly be much better than what he had before. Just add an OS, and he would be good to go! It certainly fits the budget and he can upgrade it in the future to better memory and video!
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6. June 2007 @ 23:02 |
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Plus there is no cost for the os as the old coa can be transfered to the new computer!
Originally posted by theonejrs:
Estuansis
For the bucks you have to work with you might well consider one of these from TigerDirect!
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...CCODE=WEM1379GB
It would certainly be much better than what he had before. Just add an OS, and he would be good to go! It certainly fits the budget and he can upgrade it in the future to better memory and video!
Clock On,
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6. June 2007 @ 23:14 |
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baltekmi,
Hey Dude,
How the heck are you!
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Plus there is no cost for the os as the old coa can be transfered to the new computer!
I have the Student Edition of XP Pro which is legal to copy. I could send it through MegaUpload. It's the full XP-Pro and it authenticates itself automaticly when it does the Windows Genuine bit. Comes with special Serial # for this addition and all! You can even give him a legal copy!
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6. June 2007 @ 23:20 |
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baltekmi,
Hey Dude,
How the heck are you!
[quote]Plus there is no cost for the os as the old coa can be transfered to the new computer!
I great1 I was just saying, that a lot of people do not know they can use there coa from one computer to the next. You can borrow or use your old copy of xp(lots of updating). But you coa is yours for life.
But you always have to call to activate. But never had a problem with that. Dino
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7. June 2007 @ 11:12 |
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My uncle got me a copy of XP Pro Corporate SP2(what I'm using) and it has unlimited uses and auto authentication. I'm not worried there :)
That Pentium D barebones looks nice but I'd rather hunt down a better deal. If I'm not mistaken, the A64 3800+ and 4000+ will kick it's butt. No advice needed guys, I'm a bargain hunter by nature. And newegg has always had the best deals :P
I'm looking at a Core 2 Duo build. Maybe the e6300.
E4300
Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3
2x1GB Kingston Value DDR2 667($64.00/Customer Choice)
Radeon X1900GT 256MB
Old Sony DVD-RW drive I have laying around
Seagate Barracuda 120 or 160GB
Coolermaster Centurion(maybe)
Hiper 580W(awesome PSU)
I'ma check prices and get back to you guys.
EDIT:
Went through and comes out to almost exactly $600 with tax.
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
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7. June 2007 @ 14:04 |
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Per core, a 3800+ and 4000+ may be somewhat faster, but if I had those two options only I'd go with the Pentium D, simply because I know what a differene a dual core makes.
That build looks very good for the money, I say go with it.
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7. June 2007 @ 14:34 |
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Estuansis,
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If I'm not mistaken, the A64 3800+ and 4000+ will kick it's butt.
Nope! I have both right here and the D-940 will stomp all over the 4000+, both stock and OC'd! That's the main reason I posted the tigerdirect link! Use the money dif to put a better video card and PS and he's got a good machine. Sell the pieces you don't use and increase your profits! LOL!! My roomie loves my old D-940 which replaced the 4000+. both are in very good MBs, BioStar TForce 939 for the 4000+ and Asus P5P800 SE for the D-940 w/1GB memory. The 4000+ while a great performer for a single core, doesn't come close to the performance of the D-940!
UPDATE! I just ran Sandra 2007 Pro on both computers which are stock. The D-940 does 14,400 MIPS @3.2GHz while the 4000+ does 8,770 @2.4GHz!
News Bulliten: Dual Cores always win! LOL!! (Just funnin)
Clock On,
theone
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[quote=Estuansis]My uncle got me a copy of XP Pro Corporate SP2(what I'm using) and it has unlimited uses and auto authentication. I'm not worried there :)
That Pentium D barebones looks nice but I'd rather hunt down a better deal. If I'm not mistaken, the A64 3800+ and 4000+ will kick it's butt. No advice needed guys .
no advice needed said the grasshopper to the masters.
clock on!
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7. June 2007 @ 23:59 |
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baltekmi,
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no advice needed said the grasshopper to the masters.
clock on!
No grasshoppers or masters here! Just old friends, new friends and folks willing to give their time and experience to better the cause of top notch computing and lots of fun for all! I for one am proud to be a part of it all!
Hey! Watch that "Clock On"! I stole that fair and square from marsey99! ROFL!! Have a good day both AMD and Intel fans and enjoy the fruits of your labor. Just have fun and remember always:
Clock On,
theone
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8. June 2007 @ 04:15 |
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We're all entitled to our support of a product, but the subjective opinion here is that a D940 will be a better PC than a 4000+. In single threaded apps, a D940 can probably only compete with a 3000+, but given that it's a dual core, no compromise. Comparing my 4200+ and my significantly faster 3Ghz E4300, the numbers go up, and it's slightly more responsive, but they're both equally satisfying to use. I couldn't really say the same of a single core even if it was an FX-57.
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8. June 2007 @ 11:28 |
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I have a bit of a puzzle perhaps someone has an answer for. Last night I decided to see what I could do about my underclocked memory. It's been running at 728MHz with the settings I've been using. I decided to set the multiplier to 2.50, which brings the speed up to 910MHz. It wouldn't run and the MB would scream at me.
I went back into the setup and set the timings at 5-5-5-15. This is what I get in Sandra.
That's a 1000 or so improvement! Here's the real kicker! My other benchmarks stay right about the same as before. All except 3DMark 03. Here's the 3DMark 03 I had recently posted. It was run at 800x600! I couldn't find the post of it at 1024x768, but it was significantly slower.
Now, here it is at 1024x768. Its significantly faster than my previous post.
Both my Math and MultiMedia remained the same, the only thing that's improved is the memory bandwidth, at the expense of Latency. The computer seems much quicker. Even my DVDRB/CCE times have improved by about 2 minutes. Why doesn't the improvement reflect in my other Sandra benchmarks?
Sincerely,
theone
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8. June 2007 @ 11:45 |
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Russ,
maybe I'm having a brain freeze but what do you mean by setting the multiplier to 2.50? are those your benchys with the memory at 910mhz and timings of 5-5-5-15? I didn't understand if you got it to run at 910mhz by loosening up the timings to 5-5-5-15. did you try uping the memory voltage at 4-4-4-12? I'm just trying to understand what you did more clearly.
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Mort81,
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maybe I'm having a brain freeze but what do you mean by setting the multiplier to 2.50? are those your benchys with the memory at 910mhz and timings of 5-5-5-15? I didn't understand if you got it to run at 910mhz by loosening up the timings to 5-5-5-15. did you try uping the memory voltage at 4-4-4-12? I'm just trying to understand what you did more clearly.
In the setup of the GA-965P-DS3 you can set the memory speed by fixed multipliers. For instance 2.00x364=728MHz is where it was at a CPU speed of 3.275GHz. The next setting up that's available is 2.50x364=910MHz. The 364 being the base FSB which is quad pumped to give an actual fsb of 1456MHz.
On the P5N-E, you could un-link the memory and set it independently so that it doesn't change when you change the fsb, sort of. You may have to add a few MHz to the base frequency to arive at the actual desired memory speed! On the GA, it's linked all the time so that it changes with the multiplier set. You can't un-link it, so it's change is constant depending on the multiplier you choose. They only offer you 2.00, 2.50, 3.00, 3.33, 3.50, and 4.00! Since it can't be un-linked you are at the mercy of the multiplier ratio times the base fsb! The Sandra MB posted is at 5-5-5-15. The first 3DMark is at 4-4-4-12 at 728MHz at 800x600. The second 3DMark is at 5-5-5-15 at 910MHz
I haven't tried upping the memory voltage yet as I was looking for some feedback first. It's already set at 2.1v and I have no idea as to what's safe! I'm open to all and any suggestions.
Sincerely,
theone
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8. June 2007 @ 12:47 |
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oh ok so instead of giving you different choices for the dram frequency they give you different multipliers which basically would be the same thing. the fsb:dram ratio on my P5W DH Deluxe is not unlinked but they do give you different frequencys to choose from and they change as the fsb changes. I'm actually changing the fsb:dram ratio on my mobo, similiar to the P4P800SE that we both had (I think you had one).
you're basically doing the same thing only it's letting you choose between multipliers as opposed to just giving you frequency choices.
I got ya.
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8. June 2007 @ 13:35 |
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Mort81,
That's exactly why I think the 650i chipset may wind up being better than the 965P. If they can ever get it all to work properly, because you can set the fsb and memory speeds independent of each other. There are still minor tweaks needed to arrive at the desired memory frequency, but it's just a few MHz change on the base fsb. I think I had to up the base fsb 5MHz to get Gina's memory to 800MHz.
Yes I did have a P4P800 SE. It didn't have any problems with memory speed mainly because of the much higher starting frequencies of the CPUs we were overclocking at the time. I only raised my CPU speed 700MHz with my 3.0 Prescot, where here with the 4300 I've raised it 1400, and the CPU multiplier was higher to (15x) with the Prescot! You only had to raise the base frequency 46MHz to 246 to hit 3.7GHz. On my 4300 you have to raise the base fsb 164MHz to 364 hit 3.275GHz and that doesn't even bring the memory up to stock speed! I've tried all the CPU multipliers and the only ones that work with my 4300 are x6 and x9. Even the C1E Thermal Management uses the x6 when not under load. I use it because it idles at 2.2GHz but changes instantly under load to 3.275 with no difference in performance or benchmarks.
Unless there's something I'm missing in my understanding of how the settings work, I've run out of answers. I've even considered a 4400 as it has a 10x multiplier and will easily hit 3.6GHz, but has the same fsb limitation as the 4300 mainly because of it's lower 800 MHz fsb. I've seen claims of running them at a 1600 fsb (400x4), but I've yet to see stable benchmarks to back up the claims!
Best Regards,
Russ
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