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30. August 2007 @ 01:56 |
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Originally posted by popol24:
Mate, you just sold this computer to me :) A few last questions now: (LOL)
Would this have an operating system already, or would I need to go get one myself?
Would I be able to play really good games on this pc? Cos from what I've been hearing from you guys, this is one beast of a computer and I may have to lay the PS2 down to rest LOL
Oh and one more thing, I would buy a flat screen monitor no matter what. I'm sick of that old box monitor LOL.
What operating system are you using at the moment?
If you are using windows XP,and you have the disc just install it on the other computer ring microsofts activation line and tell them you have decomissioned your old pc and have upgraded to a newer computer and want to install it on that.Personally for now I would give vista a miss for at least another 2 or 3 years.
You will be able to play any game on the market today.
Maybe sell the old ps2 if you find it's not getting any use and recoup a bit of cash?
Good to hear your going to get a new monitor so you can fully appreciate what you have Bought.
One other thing,if your not sure how to install the operating system leave your current pc in use so you can still ask questions or search for advice.
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30. August 2007 @ 05:50 |
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Originally posted by crowy:
What operating system are you using at the moment?
If you are using windows XP,and you have the disc just install it on the other computer ring microsofts activation line and tell them you have decomissioned your old pc and have upgraded to a newer computer and want to install it on that.Personally for now I would give vista a miss for at least another 2 or 3 years.
You will be able to play any game on the market today.
Maybe sell the old ps2 if you find it's not getting any use and recoup a bit of cash?
Good to hear your going to get a new monitor so you can fully appreciate what you have Bought.
One other thing,if your not sure how to install the operating system leave your current pc in use so you can still ask questions or search for advice.
Regards,Crowy
I'm using Windows XP SP1 on the old computer! ROFL! I have to keep downloading the updates online so I can get the SP2 everytime I reformat the old computer. The computer I'm using now is fairly new. It's nothing flash, just the ones you use in public at universities and high schools. The fairly new one is the one I'm using at the moment as the old is busted up, hence I need a new one ASAP (won't even beep when you press the on button LOL!)
As for the disc for the fairly new pc, I'm not even sure if I still have it. My mom bought this computer so she doesn't remeber if this came with a disc. I so need to reformat this pc because it's got way too much spyware on it, that not even spybot, adaware, avg free can clean up.
Anyways, back to the topic. I don't think I'll be using Vista now, sadly, as I really liked the look of it. I'll have to buy an XP with SP2 in it. You reckon I can ask the guys if they can throw in an XP w/ SP2 at a cost?
Cheers,
Popol
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30. August 2007 @ 06:10 |
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@popol,
Do you go to a university? If so M$ has a deal with most of them for cheap or free downloads for STUDENTS. Just a thought. I don't know if that deal is a US thing or the entire planet. LOL. It's worth finding out tho....... :)
If you like the looks of Vista, which is cool btw. You can always d/l an "add on" from the many sites that have that sort of thing. Do a google search because I can't remember the website right now and I'm lazy. LOL.
Good luck to you mate!!!!
...gm
EDIT: I wasn't that lazy afterall. link for choices on transformation pack. :D
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30. August 2007 @ 14:30 |
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crowy,
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What you stated isn't quite correct.Each pair of cores shares 4mb cache,not each core having its own 2mb cache.
I guess I said it wrong. The way they explain it in the review is that each pair can't access the other's 2 MB of cache memory! The 6750 can access all 4 MB, so it's faster at some things than the Quads.
It wasn't the exact model he's getting in the review, but there was enough there to get the general idea!
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30. August 2007 @ 15:35 |
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Originally posted by greensman:
@popol,
Do you go to a university? If so M$ has a deal with most of them for cheap or free downloads for STUDENTS. Just a thought. I don't know if that deal is a US thing or the entire planet. LOL. It's worth finding out tho....... :)
If you like the looks of Vista, which is cool btw. You can always d/l an "add on" from the many sites that have that sort of thing. Do a google search because I can't remember the website right now and I'm lazy. LOL.
Good luck to you mate!!!!
...gm
EDIT: I wasn't that lazy afterall. link for choices on transformation pack. :D
I'll try that transformation pack once I've got a pc :) Also, I do go to university and there are deals here for students. One of the deals I know is with Dell. You get some sort of discount if you're a student, but it's not like you can buy parts separately. You buy a pre-built pc already, which kinda sucks. I think you can get the same deal with some Macintosh dealer as well.
But now that I think about, I do have a discount at some major electronic store (Dick Smith) here in Darwin for being part of this society at university. It's only a 5% discount, and I might use that discount to buy a monitor :)
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I just reread your post and I think you were talking about getting vista at a discounted price for being a student, right? If so, I don't think we have that kind of deal here for university students (in Darwin, that is). But I would be able to get that a discounted price at Dick Smith :)
I think I'll stick with XP tho, cos my friend he's got some program that can change the appearance/theme of XP. So I might use that program to make it look like a Vista, or something better LOL!
Cheers,
Popol
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30. August 2007 @ 16:27 |
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popol24,
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I think I'll stick with XP tho, cos my friend he's got some program that can change the appearance/theme of XP. So I might use that program to make it look like a Vista, or something better LOL!
Thats what greensman was talking about,the windows vista transformation pack.It just makes xp look like vista but you still have the benefit of 100% software compatibility.
If you can get a monitor at Dick Smith for a good price go for it!!
As far as service pack 2 goes,you can put it in your pipe and smoke it..LOL!!
Iv'e had it before and had the automatic updates running and had far too many issues with it.
Right now I'm runing XP pro with service pack 1.
For me it is virtually issue free.
I run Comodo personal firewall,Comodo Boclean anti malware,(both free and highly recommended)AVG 7.5 licensed,AVG 7.5 antispyware licensed.For my email I use mailwasher pro which is used to check emails before they reach your email program.It only downloads the first 20 lines of each email so if you have several emails coming in it only takes a few seconds to receive them.Any you don't want you just add to the blacklist,the ones you do want go on the friends list.When you hit process mail the blacklisted ones get deleted then your email program will open up and you only receive the emails on the friends list.There's a bit more to it than that but that's basically how it works.
These seem to work well together and keep everything running smoothly.
Regards,Crowy.
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31. August 2007 @ 02:33 |
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Originally posted by crowy:
popol24,
As far as service pack 2 goes,you can put it in your pipe and smoke it..LOL!!
I've had it before and had the automatic updates running and had far too many issues with it.
Right now I'm runing XP pro with service pack 1.
For me it is virtually issue free.
Don't many softwares require SP2? I use SP2 and got no problems with it. Also, when I reformat a hard drive, installed XP and SP2, I manually turn off the automatic updates straight away.
P.S.
I've sent an inquiry about the quad core, and today, I showed my other friend about that same deal, he was tempted to buy it LOL! So I sent another inquiry asking if I can buy two sets of those with a discount LOL. My friend said, "There goes my tax refund" lol
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31. August 2007 @ 07:32 |
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You know, for the first time, there's so much to read in my absence, I don't think I'm going to bother. Seems like people have been well catered for in my week-long absence!
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31. August 2007 @ 07:42 |
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Sam,
Don't feel left out!!!!
I was hoping you might chime in somewhere with regards to gpu's!!!
popol24,
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Don't many softwares require SP2?
If it needs it,it will let you know!!!
Just download what you need,not what M$ say's you need!!!!LMFAO?!!!!!
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I think it's already been said, if you want something cheap that gets the job done with most recent games, get a 7600GT, preferably by a company like BFG, EVGA or XFX.
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31. August 2007 @ 15:20 |
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Hi Sam,
Welcome back!
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I think it's already been said, if you want something cheap that gets the job done with most recent games, get a 7600GT, preferably by a company like BFG, EVGA or XFX.
Couldn't have said it better myself! Lot of bang for the buck!
Clock On,
Russ
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31. August 2007 @ 16:28 |
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I'm going to be building a pc for one of my buddies using some old leftover components I already have just laying around (intel P4 2.8 prescott 533 fsb cpu, gigabyte mobo, 1 stick 512mb corsair XMS DDR 400 ram, an AGP XFX FX5200 video card, and a lite-on SOHW-1653S DVDRW drive). I/we don't want to spend a lot on the other required components.
Here are some other components I have already decided to go with:
case
hard drive
I would like some second opinions between these cpu hsf's:
thermaltake
arctic cooling
masscool
and these p/s's
thermaltake 430 watt
cooler master 500 watt
raidmax 500 watt
tia.
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31. August 2007 @ 16:57 |
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Originally posted by Mort81:
I'm going to be building a pc for one of my buddies using some old leftover components I already have just laying around (intel P4 2.8 prescott 533 fsb cpu, gigabyte mobo, 1 stick 512mb corsair XMS DDR 400 ram, an AGP XFX FX5200 video card, and a lite-on SOHW-1653S DVDRW drive). I/we don't want to spend a lot on the other required components.
Here are some other components I have already decided to go with:
case
hard drive
I would like some second opinions between these cpu hsf's:
thermaltake
arctic cooling
masscool
and these p/s's
thermaltake 430 watt
cooler master 500 watt
raidmax 500 watt
tia.
I have used that thermaltake 430watt PSU in a few builds, and I have had no problems with it.
As for cooling I would go for the middle link.
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31. August 2007 @ 17:14 |
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Hey Mort!! Good to see you sneaking around here buddy. :)
I agree with Mike on the HSF but it's out of stock right now and therefore I would choose the Thermaltake. I've had a MASSCOOL and didn't like it much. I replaced it with an ASUS hsf and it does a better job I think. :)
On the PSU I'm liking the specs of the RAIDMAX but as you know I have limited experience with a lot of components so I really can't answer based on if I used the thing or not. :) Sorry buddy.
HOpefully Lp531, crowy, or one of the other SMARTER guys will kick in here. :D
....gm
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31. August 2007 @ 17:27 |
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I'm not in a big toot for the cpu hsf. I/he can always use the oem fan for a bit. I do however want to get the components that are on special (free shipping) and have a MIR ordered.
looks like I'm gonna have to order a stick of ram also as I seem to have misplaced the stick I have/had. :(
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31. August 2007 @ 17:43 |
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Mort81,
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I would like some second opinions between these cpu hsf's:
Of the three, the Arctic would be my pick. Nothing really wrong with the other choices but I don't like side firing fans! They disrupt the normal flow of air and wind up not cooling as well! I prefer the HSF to feed the case fan! Keeps the airflow smoother throughout the case.
Clock On,
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31. August 2007 @ 17:46 |
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Originally posted by Mort81:
I'm not in a gig toot for the cpu hsf. I/he can always use the oem fan for a bit. I do however want to get the components that are on special (free shipping) and have a MIR ordered.
looks like I'm gonna have to order a stick of ram also as I seem to have misplaced the stick I have/had. :(
Mort it's not good to admit you misplaced your stick. hehehe. :)
Here's something to look at: link to RAM
hth buddy.... :)
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31. August 2007 @ 17:50 |
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What about these HD...I like the 16MB over the 8MB...Read the reviews on the HD...you chose...Lots of Failures and Heat Issues...being reported...It is an Old Design...
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive 16MB- OEM $67.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822144701
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD3200AAKS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive 16MB- OEM $74.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136074
On the CPU Coolers...The Thermatake fan is at least easily replaceable...What about this for $1 more on price...They are very quiet and I like the design better...The Thermatakes Clog up easily with dust...and its harder to clean...
ZALMAN CNPS7000B-ALCU ULTRA QUIET CPU COOLER FOR AMD K7, K8 AND INTEL 478
http://www.svc.com/cnps7000b-alcu-75.html $24.95
I have never used the Arctic...You would need to take orientation into account...make sure you are not cancelling airflow by other components...P/S fan...Rear Case Fan...
I definitely did not like the masscool...To small of fan...
The Cooler Master P/S...hands down over the others...I wouldn't think about the Raidmax...they are...to put it bluntly...simply...Full of Sh!t on the specs that they are listing for it...
Have you looked at any of the Cooler Master Cases with P/S included...You might find something that can save a little cash...
Take a look over hear at some Cooler Master Cases...They have some killer deals right now...
http://www.svc.com/coolermaster-cases.html
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31. August 2007 @ 17:51 |
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greensman,
thanks but I don't need a set of matched sticks. the gigabyte mobo doesn't support dual channel. I'll probably just go with a 512 stick for now and he can always add another stick later.
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31. August 2007 @ 18:08 |
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damn it Lp531 :)
you're just bound and determined to make me spend more money! this thing will be a giant leep compared to what he has now even tho it is slow by todays standards.
I do like your suggestion on the hsf. I had one of those on my old northwood P4 3.4ghz rig. newegg didn't list it for socket 478. thanks for the suggestions. keep em coming.
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31. August 2007 @ 18:20 |
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Its not my cash..:p
Did you see the Mystique just like yours...$69.95..(ROFL)... }X)
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Did you see the Mystique just like yours...$69.95..(ROFL)...
now you're hitting below the belt :) mine cost almost twice that with shipping :(
I looked at some cases with p/s but the shipping is what kills them. the CM elite I selected has free shipping plus a MIR. besides I will most likely get a better p/s, even with the CM 500 watt, that I linked to above for only $30 after MIR. not much to choose from for $60 with free shipping and especially not a CM case with tooless design.
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Did you check the shipping and MIR and Mail-in's from SVC...they usually have the cheapest shipping of any company I deal with...
Do the math all the way through...and you might be surprised..
I like the philosophy of this company...they do not believe in making a penny from shipping and handling...I hate the games that some companies play..(NEWEGG)...with Sale Prices...Shipping and Handling Charges...
They are Big enough that they can cut great deals with the shippers...and pass it on to the consumers...The last Wavemaster I got from them shipped for $3.21...and they beat Newegg in customer service in my opinion...They are one of my favorite suppliers...
I just saw that they got the Black EVO 830 for $169...Now thats tempting for ME..:P and its the brand new revised version...I thought it was the first version...
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Lp531,
that same case that is going to cost me $30 from newegg after $10 MIR and free shipping, costs $56.20 after $10 MIR at SVC. the shipping alone was $31.20 which is about double what newegg usually charges to ship a case.
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