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21. March 2008 @ 16:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
have you seen recent results, with very early bios'?



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21. March 2008 @ 17:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
shaffaaf,
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IMMATURE???

not any more m8.

Yes, Immature! It's not as advanced as the P35 chipset is yet, but it won't be too long before all the little glitches and such are taken care of with the latest bios updates. These aren't serious problems, but according to what I read in a lot of overclocking forums, the X38 chipset still has some issues to be resolved. Most of my sources are very knowledgeable in this area, and their overclocking skills are far superior to mine, and I would take their word on it before other sources. Still, it's a lot better than it was before the latest bios was introduced! I wasn't suggesting that he not buy the X38 yet as I advocated a few months ago, but there are still some problems to be resolved. This came about because of Intel, not the bios manufacturers. It's just taking them a little more time to catch up. There's no major problems, just some memory issues and some problems with the Sata, last time I looked. Nothing major and nothing that should keep someone from buying one!

Respectfully,
Russ


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21. March 2008 @ 17:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok, i had orginally set out for the x38's so i would preferrably want to stick with that, the only problem is that on the newegg site the only mobo that had the 2 pci express 2.0 16X slots was an asus and it was like $300! i would preferably want to get away with 200 but $280 is about my limit. I did find i Gigabyte but it required 1200 speed memory and crucial doesnt make that speed. i also would prefer about 6+ sata ports but i could prolly settle with 4. any suggestions that would be compatible? also is DFI a good brand, i never heard of them.

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21. March 2008 @ 18:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Whats the overall consensuson this Cooler Master http://www.microcenter.com/single_produc...duct_id=0265149
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21. March 2008 @ 18:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I wonder what's up with newegg deactivating some mobos. they deactivated the asus maximus formula X38 that I was considering too.

Bladerz,

a lot of pc enthusiasts seem to like DFI. I have never tried one personally (asus fanboy) but I am seriously considering this one.

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Bladerz05,
If $280 is the most you want to go, Newegg has the GigaByte GA-EX38-DQ6 on sale for $259! It has 8 Sata and 8 rear usb, plus headers on the MB for 4 more.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128326
Or the GA-EX38-DS4 for $209.66! It has 6 Sata and 8 rear usb, plus headers on the mb for 4 more.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128089

Both support Crossfire! I checked with GigaByte!

Don't sweat the memory speed. it's just the top memory speed rating for the MB. 1066 memory will do nicely! It's just the "Official" rating, just like the 1333 fsb. That's all they guarantee it will run. The manufacturer only supports 1333MHz. Mine's at 1750MHz! LOL!! My GA-965P-DS3 only supported 800MHz for the fsb. It still ran fine at 1525 with an E4300! LOL!!

Best Regards,
Russ

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Bladerz,
I wouldn't worry about the RAM unless it's DDR3. Most mobos rated for certain RAM will be ok with lower speed RAM with no issues.... ie; a mobo rated for 1066 will be just fine with 800 or even lower if it's DDR2 rated RAM. I hope that makes some sense. ;)

Morty quick teasing us and just buy the danged thing!! :P

Chris that is the little brother to the 850W Cooler Master that I have and I've read a couple of reviews on that particular model and the 750W passed with flying colors. ;) You might want to do a search for reviews to satisfy yourself... you too Robby!!! :P

@Rob of Cincinnati,
I would consider that psu (Cooler Master 750W that Chris linked to..) and not have any worries buying it either. The only thing that I would consider is modular over the normal psu. I know that some would argue that fact but I've succumb to the convenience of modular cabling. :D The Quattro 1000W Antec is great and I don't have any worries with power issues..... hehehe. :P I'll chat with you later tonight.... :D

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21. March 2008 @ 19:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Reason I asked, I haven't found a bad review on it and $59.00 after rebate. Not being mod isokay cause the case it's going into is like a pole barn.
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21. March 2008 @ 20:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am dead set on getting an x-fi. I did not think sound was gonna be a real issue for me but i really want the best.

I saw this x-fi and the price said buy it!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BRAND-NEW-RETAIL-B...1742.m153.l1262

I will get the Logitech Z5500's in July i think.


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21. March 2008 @ 21:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Earth to Rob,
reality check, a Redsox box would be a World Champion setup.
'nuff said.
on a serious note, I feel it is your PSU which is causing the problems, sounds like power fluctuations or power dropping, wish you had an oscilliscope to track the voltages as they fly out of your PSU. Wish you luck figuring it out..


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22. March 2008 @ 00:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ChrisC586:
Reason I asked, I haven't found a bad review on it and $59.00 after rebate. Not being mod isokay cause the case it's going into is like a pole barn.
OK who knows what a pole barn is w/o looking it up? lol. :P

Yeh Chris I've read most of the reviews on it too, at least 4-5. ;) I was gonna pick it up at the last sale (literally) that our CompUSA had and when I went in to get it they were out. lol. They sold 10-12 in less than 3 hours.... DOH!!!! Anyway I picked up the Antec 1000W for less than the 750W was gonna be, open box btw..... YEAH!!! on the purchase. lol.

Sorry it's late and I may have indulged a little to much. hehehe. :P I think it would be fine for your needs. Almost any needs really.... :D

Cincy see!! Even a Sox fan has thumbed the psu. ;) Texas Rangers btw!!!! :P

...gm



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22. March 2008 @ 00:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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OK who knows what a pole barn is w/o looking it up? lol. :P
I do, but then I did work at 84 Lumber before the railroad... :P


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22. March 2008 @ 01:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well usually (before) id just add thermal glue (sloppily i might add) because i was told it was needed....but you guys convinced me a while back about how important it was i've been applying it more carefully with more thought and buying the correct compound......i got a fan for my CPU (crappy sprite...thats why i prefer water colling!), this was the first one i got that comes with the grease pre-applied....should i scrape it off and put some quality artic sliver down or should i use the pre applied grease as its perfectly level? wont be installing the fan for a few days,,,, happily waiting for a component!

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tripp I prefer to apply the thermal paste myself. I don't know what they've used and to me it's better to apply the compound to the cpu outer surface directly. Which cooler did you get again??

good luck with the build....

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Tripp,
The only cooler that I ever leave the original stuff on is the Arctics! They have a thermal pad that seems to work just about as good as Arctic Silver 5. nowadays, I take all of the stuff off as I lap the Cooler with a Ragwheel and Jewlers Rouge, with a Dental Lathe. I don't do the CPU as it voids the warranty, and you can't do it with the wheel as you could get a static spark. R,I,P. CPU! Seems that Intel has numbers on the chip they need before they will replace one. Thank God I have a 7 power OptiVisor for my turbine bearing work, as the print is almost impossible to see with the naked eye, and the ones they need on the board part itself are even smaller! The numbers on the box aren't good enough. Doing the cooler with the Ragwheel/lathe takes just a few minutes, and it shines like a mirror! LOL!! Beats the hell out of sanding and polishing by hand!

Best Regards,
Russ


GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor


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22. March 2008 @ 03:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Mort81,

Hey! Asus Fanboy! Greetings and Hallucinations from your local AD Official Gigabyte Fanboy :)

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4186/1201898514ku4.gif

ROTFLMAO!! Just good friendly fun, that's all! ;)

Best Regards,
Russ


GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor


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newegg is sucks, i have a promo code for just about every item in my build and there gonna make me do a separate transaction for each item in order to get my discount!!!!!!!

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'Tis life.


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Bladerz05,
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newegg is sucks, i have a promo code for just about every item in my build and there gonna make me do a separate transaction for each item in order to get my discount!!!!!!!

It's the manufacturer's fault not Newegg! They make them do it that way! They insist on it being that way. Probably has something to do with Internal Revenue because places like Newegg and their suppliers have to document every cash back deal they do. IRS also doesn't want to do the math. Every one of those reciepts you send in for an MIR is that way too! Infernal Revenue won't accept a receipt and allow the write off any other way! Newegg and the product manufacturers wind up being the bad guy, and it's not their fault, it's the FFG!

Best Regards,
Russ

GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor


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22. March 2008 @ 04:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LOL sorry newegg....thanks for discount and free 3 day shipping :)


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Bladerz05,
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LOL sorry newegg....thanks for discount and free 3 day shipping :)

Yup! the Infernal Revenue makes it a Lose, Lose situation for everyone but themselves! LOL!! You do all the work and they get all the money! They don't even need a gun to steal you blind! ROFLMAO!!

Did you ever check out those two motherboards I posted. Next build I want something like that too!

Best Regards,
Russ


GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor


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22. March 2008 @ 05:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yeah i did and i actuall went with this one with a $20 promo coupon
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128326



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Bladerz05,
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yeah i did and i actuall went with this one with a $20 promo coupon

Nice choice! I want one! LOL!! Just so I can say "Mine"!LOL!! If the on-board sound is as good as my DS3R, You'll love it! Plenty of bells and whistles too!

Best Regards,
Russ

GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor


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22. March 2008 @ 05:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yeah mobo is something i didnt really want to skimp on
total build amount out the door 1198.95
geesh i wont be buying anything for some time now

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22. March 2008 @ 07:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey guys I need your advice. Now I know I have a pretty solid PSU, but I thought maybe I should get a better PSU and see if I can get a more stable computer.

Anybody know of a better PSU than a Corsair 550VX in the 90-100 dollar range?

I'm looking at this right now.

http://www.buy.com/prod/corsair-tx-650w-.../206178324.html
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