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shaffaaf

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8. June 2008 @ 09:22

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DONT DO IT GIGABYTE

NOOO (notice the chipset)

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sammorris

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8. June 2008 @ 09:32

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Who knows, maybe the 790i isn't rubbish?

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greensman

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8. June 2008 @ 09:32

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Little 790 SLi chipset. :) How else are they gonna achieve Quad Sli??

And of course you DON'T have to buy it!!!!!

...gm

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sammorris

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8. June 2008 @ 09:35

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I love how there's no room for any SATA ports because of all those PCIe slots...
Still, in true Gigabyte style they've still managed to fit six of them by putting them in the spare nooks and crannies... :P

Take a good look at the size of the chipset heatsinks on that board, now look at this one:

Still an SLI board believe it or not...

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greensman

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8. June 2008 @ 09:57

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Originally posted by sammorris:
I love how there's no room for any SATA ports because of all those PCIe slots...
Still, in true Gigabyte style they've still managed to fit six of them by putting them in the spare nooks and crannies... :P

Take a good look at the size of the chipset heatsinks on that board, now look at this one:
[removed pic of ASUS A8N-Sli Mobo]

Still an SLI board believe it or not...

That's where some "research" comes in handy. If you notice most of the people that had some success with that mobo installed "after market" heatsinks on the chipset and mosfet areas. NOT trying to indicate it was their (asus) best product but it did ok with some folks. ;)

I would say that particular ASUS mobo would be BAD for silent cooling or a mostly fanless design... I've had a friend or two with that mobo and they had decent success with added and superior cooling. :D

....gm

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sammorris

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8. June 2008 @ 10:02

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A valid point - and I questioned that too when I saw that it's all fan and no heatsink, but temps are one thing I never had a problem with on that board.

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greensman

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8. June 2008 @ 10:17

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To add on the AN8-SLi mobo.. I also have a friend (he's a member here too) that had some serious issues with that mobo.. due to poor cooling from his case and the mobo needing that cooling.... Oddly enough the case was a Thermaltake Armour (the good one) and it didn't play nice with that mobo... lol. He sold the stuff (traded maybe) and got some SUPERIOR Intel goodies and hasn't looked back sense if memory serves. :)

...gm

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theonejrs

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8. June 2008 @ 17:37

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sammorris,

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Take a good look at the size of the chipset heatsinks on that board, now look at this one:

With all due respect, you are forgetting one important thing when comparing the heatsinks between the two! The memory controller is in the CPU on the AMD, while the Intel's memory controller is in the Northbridge! The AMD's chip does less work, so it runs cooler to begin with. That silly little chip cooler on the A8N-SLI SE, is all but worthless! I had one sent to me from Asus by accident, and they told me to keep it and sent me the part I did order. I gave it a shot and installed it on my P5P800 SE, and my MB temps went to the moon! Noisy little bastard too!

Respectfully,
Russ

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GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor

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sammorris

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8. June 2008 @ 18:56

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Would you guys mind if I ask you for assistance on a few event logs?
I'll move them to a different thread if necessary.

These are all the issues I can find in event viewer:

1. These things are all over the place

0000000427: 2008-06-08 20:02:25:656 Exception <Killing CCC0 Process>: Process with an Id of 496 is not running.
Exception Called by: ATI.ACE.MOM.Implementation.CCC0StateMachine::KillMe processID:00776 threadID:(MOM_STM_DelegateThread) domainName:(MOM.exe ) assemblyName:(MOM.Implementation, Version=2.0.3009.40194, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=90ba9c70f846762e)
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For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
0000000001: 2008-06-08 22:40:25:593 Failed to merge manifest file: C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\skins\ccc-skins.xml with exception: Could not find file 'C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\skins\ccc-skins.xml'.
Error Called by: ATI.ACE.CLI.Foundation.MergeManifest::ReadManifest processID:02684 threadID:( ) domainName:(ccc.exe ) assemblyName:(CLI.Foundation.XManifest, Version=2.0.2939.23802, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=90ba9c70f846762e)
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0000000002: 2008-06-08 22:38:46:031 Exception <atixcode.dll>: Retrieving the COM class factory for component with CLSID {981145A7-E08E-48F3-A1C4-52C28BCAAAF9} failed due to the following error: 80040154.
Exception Called by: ATI.ACE.CLI.Aspect.TransCode.Graphics.Shared.TC_Component::CheckTrancodeComObject processID:04616 threadID:(CCCThreadNew:Wizard) domainName:(ccc.exe ) assemblyName:(CLI.Aspect.TransCode.Graphics.Shared, Version=2.0.2939.23764, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=90ba9c70f846762e)
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For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp

2. These occur every time I shut my PC down, log off or restart.
Windows saved user RMS-ALEXANDRA\Sam Morris registry while an application or service was still using the registry during log off. The memory used by the user's registry has not been freed. The registry will be unloaded when it is no longer in use.

This is often caused by services running as a user account, try configuring the services to run in either the LocalService or NetworkService account.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

3. These occur regularly
The WMI Performance Adapter service entered the stopped state.
The WMI Performance Adapter service was successfully sent a start control.
The WMI Performance Adapter service entered the running state.

4. I see these occasionally
TCP/IP has reached the security limit imposed on the number of concurrent TCP connect attempts.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp

5. I see these occasionally
The time service has not been able to synchronize the system time for 49152 seconds because none of the time providers has been able to provide a usable time stamp. The system clock is unsynchronized.[/b]

6. I see a set of 8 of these, once, a few days ago
The time service has not been able to synchronize the system time for 49152 seconds because none of the time providers has been able to provide a usable time stamp. The system clock is unsynchronized.

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shaffaaf

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8. June 2008 @ 19:13

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uninstall ATI drivers, and use driver cleaner pro / driver sweerper (in safemode) then do a reg clean, and install your prefered drivers.

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sytyguy

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8. June 2008 @ 19:49

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#4 You have reached the max limit (10) of TCP connections per second. This was instituted in SP2, SP1 had unlimited.

There is a patch which allows you to change the max to a larger number, but buyer beware, http://www.lvllord.de/?lang=en&url=downloads

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sammorris

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8. June 2008 @ 20:18

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Hmm, I've already used that patch, did it a few months back...
Thanks for the advice though.

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crowy

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9. June 2008 @ 04:43

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Sam,
Have you installed any new software recently?

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If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein

theonejrs

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9. June 2008 @ 05:04

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Crowy,
Hey there! Good to hear from you! Where you been? Now if BillyBob would just show up we could have a party! LOL!!

Got anything new in the way of a computer or a new build planned? Hey, if you run into BillyBob, tell him to stop Bogarting and pass it around! ROFL!!

Take care and don't be a stranger,
Russ

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sammorris

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9. June 2008 @ 11:50

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Billybob's on my MSN contacts - I'll bullybob him into coming back! :)

Crowy: Not really, other than switching from AVG to NOD32 antivirus.

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rick5446

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9. June 2008 @ 14:47

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shaffaaf..Are U saying this is a good or bad brd...Also what the numbers on it. I like all the card slots and the way they are layed out. Can only see 2 SATA Slots though, not really enough. Personally I like 8 SATAs. What might be a similar board, my Grandson want to build a computer with the Intel 2.4 Quad

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sammorris

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9. June 2008 @ 15:07

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The GA-EP35-DS3R has 8 S-ATAs and is an excellent board.

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shaffaaf

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9. June 2008 @ 15:45

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Originally posted by rick5446:
shaffaaf..Are U saying this is a good or bad brd...Also what the numbers on it. I like all the card slots and the way they are layed out. Can only see 2 SATA Slots though, not really enough. Personally I like 8 SATAs. What might be a similar board, my Grandson want to build a computer with the Intel 2.4 Quad

im saying firstly DDR3.... dont do it.

secondly, nvidia chipset...50% of the time, gives major headaches

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theonejrs

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9. June 2008 @ 17:13

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shaffaaf,
Do you have a link to information about the 790 Gigabyte MB you posted a pic of? I would like to take a look at it. I can't seem to find it on Gigabyte's website!

Thanks,
Russ

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sammorris

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9. June 2008 @ 17:20

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It's not on Gigabyte's site, so it's probably as yet unreleased or doesn't exist. I'm going to with the former, because look what I just found:
http://www.giga-byte.com.tw/Products/Mot...?ProductID=2514

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shaffaaf

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9. June 2008 @ 17:22

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sure thing russ

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option...d=7777&Itemid=1

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theonejrs

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9. June 2008 @ 18:27

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shaffaaf,
That was very interesting reading, and more than a little confusing. I was hunting all over that pic for the 5 Sata ports Sam mentioned, but I think given the way the article was written, the one you posted only had 2 Sata ports. The picture directly below it of the GeForce 9400 MB has the 5. These are only prototypes, so I expect when the final product arrives, it will have more.

Thanks again,
Russ

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shaffaaf

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9. June 2008 @ 18:29

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no it has 6. 4 are turned 90 degrees at the end of the board. next to the 90 degree ide

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cincyrob

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9. June 2008 @ 18:37

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i dont have the artical here with me but in the new maximumpc mag it has a comparison of 4 790i type mobo. the asus striker 2 extreme.evga eforce 790i ultra,intel dx48bt2 and the gigabyte x48t-dq6. it has the evga and asus as the best 2(and most costly) and the intel last with the gigabyte in the middle but the gigabyte board i dont think is 790I it has the X48 chipset in it. but the layout of it looks like the one shaffaaf posted

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theonejrs

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9. June 2008 @ 20:05

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cincyrob,
It just goes to show just how much BS there is out there. The Striker Extreme is a great MB. The Striker Extreme II is currently a Horror Show! Nothing that a future bios flash won't cure I'm sure, but for that kind of money???? It's a bit insane to pay now and get later! You've heard of the "Worst of the Worst? Well this is it, for now!

Best Regards,
Russ

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