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Experiencing Difficulty Using DVD RB and CCE? If So, Then Ask Your Questions Here.
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jdobbs
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22. September 2005 @ 11:53 |
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@HKT3020
"The Matrix" is one of the discs I always keep on my hard drive for testing. I run it against pretty much every version. I've had no problem with it on any of the recent versions.
I would highly suggest you create an ISO with DVD-RB and burn it with DVD Decrypter. Also, make sure you never use one-pass encoding with any DVD that has ILVU.
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brobear
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22. September 2005 @ 11:59 |
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HKT
I have the Matrix collection and didn't have a problem at all doing any of the discs, and I did extras and all.
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22. September 2005 @ 12:54 |
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Why doesn't Intel come up with a P5, or some similar logical new proc that is not P4 or notebook based?
They are they're going to do what AMD's done, put the memory controller on chip.
Now let's end the PC discussions here or move it to the hardware forum.
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brobear
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22. September 2005 @ 17:24 |
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Good idea, so stop doing it. LOL
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22. September 2005 @ 17:47 |
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Sorry brobear but I neither agreed nor disagreed with anyone, AMD is beating Intel at everything. Only the Dothan chips by Intel are truly competitive. If superior processing was the only criteria for being out front then Intel would have to either get out of the way, or accept second place.
On another point: I encoded "Hitch Hikers Guide To The Galaxy" last night, and it was one of the strangest experiences that I've had backing up a DVD.
I began encoding at about 9 PM and when I returned at 10 PM there was a message stating that CCE couldn't encode a particular file. I clicked Okay and then it continued encoding for a while longer and then stopped again with the same message. I clicked okay again and it continued encoding. I got up at about 1 AM and there was the same message with the CCE message telling me that it failed to encode a file again. When I arose to get ready for work the next morning I was once again besieged by the message. I clicked Ok again and took a shower and when I returned it had completed the rebuild stage.
After work I decided I'd burn it anyway to see what damage had been done with the CCE errors, and just to be safe I decided I'd play it until it burped. Now here's the strange part, usually when I receive an error message during encoding the result is usually worthless, but this movie played from beginning to end without even a skip.
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22. September 2005 @ 18:48 |
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Seems there is a difference in opinions. I'm perfectly happy with my second rate P4 and haven't had the bad experiences like Arniebear has with the AMDs. They're both okay, I just have my personal preference. LOL Quote:
Now let's end the PC discussions here or move it to the hardware forum. -Sophocles-
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64026402
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22. September 2005 @ 19:08 |
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HKT3020,
I didn't understand the post. Did you have any difficulties playing the movie.
I didn't have any problems with The Matrix.
Donald
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22. September 2005 @ 19:17 |
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The only real point to the hardware discussion was AMD now makes it possible to cut your times substantially for a cheap price. You don't have to pay for a high dollar 3.4 P4.
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marvmcc
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22. September 2005 @ 20:07 |
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@Sophocles,
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On another point: I encoded "Hitch Hikers Guide To The Galaxy" last night, and it was one of the strangest experiences that I've had backing up a DVD. (much deleted).
I had a similar expeirence with that title..... However it played just fine... I used AnyDVD and decrpter the first time to rip it... I re-ripped it with AnyDVD and DVDFab. I then ran DVD-RB and only had two spots with the error from CCE... I then burned the image with Decrypter (just like the first time) and it plays perfect also!
Also you are right on in your observations about AMD! I have a motel chain and two fabrication plants as private clients that I have switched to AMD systems in the last four years. They are tickled pink with 1). The monetary savings, 2). The performance, and 3). The reliability of the units!
For my three and a half cents you can't go wrong!
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brobear
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22. September 2005 @ 21:35 |
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I have family members who own different businesses and they use Intel. The most elaborate is a new setup in a med clinic that is all brand new Dell P4 workstations with a Dell Intel equipped server. Another family member is employed at a regional med facility. Guess what, Gateways equipped with Intel. Last I noticed the state and county educational facilities, guess what, Intel PCs.
We can keep giving examples for both camps. As Sophocles so aptly put it, Quote:
Now let's end the PC discussions here or move it to the hardware forum.
We all have our favorites and can find someone who has done a benchmark or research to support a particular choice. I'm just glad there is some competition so the consumer can reap some benefits. Hopefully both Intel and AMD continue to try to make a better "mouse trap". Who knows, maybe my next computer will have an AMD processor. LOL
We all know a faster processor will improve encode speeds. So there we can all agree and get back on topic. Who has the best and fastest is open for debate in the hardware section. As jdobbs pointed out, most folks are using middle of the road PCs and that is what he does his work on so he can keep contact with the average consumer.
Sophocles
I'll have to remember that title the next time I order movies so I can check it out. Haven't had a good problem to play with in a while. ;)
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jdobbs
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23. September 2005 @ 02:23 |
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@Sophocles
"Hitchhiker's Guide" went through without any glitches when I did it. Not sure what that means -- but I thought I'd let you know. I ripped it with DVD Decrypter.
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23. September 2005 @ 12:56 |
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jdobbs
I ripped with DVD Decrypter and I have the latest version of AnyDVD. The movie burned perfectly. None of the error messages referenced RB, just CCE. I've just ripped the movie again, I'll try to see if the error can be reproduced tonight.
brobear a lot of people are happy with their P4 just as I was with mine but that doesn't change the simple fact that at this time in CPU development AMD is clearly in the lead. They have the fastest single core and dual core CPUs, which can be verified by 100% of the reputable tech sites such as Tomshardware.com, Anandtech.com, overclockers,com sharkyextrememe.com and so on.
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23. September 2005 @ 13:42 |
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@Sophocles
Had the same problem with Curb Your Enthusiasm Season 3 Disk 2. CCE cut short the begining of every episode's intro into the "staticky" HBO screen that should have ended with the title of the show. i decided to burn and it had worked itself out. btw, the first disk, identicle to the second in any manner that i can tell, worked just fine.
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23. September 2005 @ 13:58 |
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hummus19
I became suspicious that there was a new physical copy protection on the go. But rather than causing read errors it somehow introduced reported encode errors. Usually when I get such an error message I stop the encode but this time I let it go to see what would happen. I figured if it was flawed then RB would catch it during rebuild but the rebuild phase went perfectly and the movie burned and played perfectly as well.
The twilight zone revisited. LOL
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hummus19
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23. September 2005 @ 14:00 |
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yeah, i know what you mean. worked well for me, i really should have gone in with vobblanker and cut the beginngin and end of the episodes anyway, but i was too lazy. this way all i had to do was wait a bit and hit enter ;) .
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23. September 2005 @ 14:08 |
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With Hitch Hikers guide to the galaxy editing wasn't needed. The file came in at about 6.67 gigs and two language tracks to remove so I figured I'd try it all. I could take DVDremake to it but what's the point when I can use RB to save the menu's and blank the extras. (A feature of RB Pro version only).
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brobear
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23. September 2005 @ 15:34 |
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Sophocles
Noticed in some of the tests they didn't exactly set up the systems the same. Seems some testers use similar memory, but give the AMD CAS 2-2-2-5 while putting CAS 3-3-3-8 in the P4 board. Now what kind of difference would that make? Sort of cooking the results wouldn't you say. Look at ExtremeTech for that little goodie where AMD beat Intel in the midrange test on gaming. http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1854733,00.asp
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Now let's end the PC discussions here or move it to the hardware forum. -Sophocles-
To promote harmony and keep the thread on track, I'll agree with you on the hardware forum and allow you the last word. Otherwise we could name this the AMD overclockers' thread instead of DVD RB/CCE.
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23. September 2005 @ 15:51 |
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I was taking my own advice, if you check my replies you'll note that I was reporting on an experience between RB/CCE with CCE being the independent variable.
And then from there we went into how hardware can affect the encode processes, by time lengths, by software encode lengths, and by hardware encode speeds.
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23. September 2005 @ 15:53 |
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And forgot to follow your own words of advice: Quote:
Now let's end the PC discussions here or move it to the hardware forum. -Sophocles-
If you want to talk Intel vs AMD, go here http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/235934 . I started a thread in the Hardware section for you.
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23. September 2005 @ 15:54 |
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Got a question, finally got the wife's Michael Flatley Collection disk, which is very peculiar. It is a flipper but has DVD 9 on both sides. The first side contains two titles one 1hr 33 mins and the other 1hr and 53 mins this could be split with no compression fine. The second side has video of 2hr and 10 minutes but shows compression at 47%, why I can't figure out. Will the Basic CCE with 2 passes do it for this amount of compression?
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brobear
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23. September 2005 @ 16:04 |
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5 hrs 36 min total. Doubtful. Even good encoders have their limit, if you're looking for quality. You might do it, but the quality would suffer due to the amount of the video having to be deleted.
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23. September 2005 @ 16:07 |
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No I only want to do the 2 hour and 10 minute video which is the one showing 47% compression. The other two I split using Clone they did not need RB there was no compression for them.
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brobear
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23. September 2005 @ 16:10 |
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2 hr 10 min shouldn't pose that big a problem. I'm not sure about your particular video, but RB usually does much better than regular transcoders with large videos. We've all been doing the summer's blockbusters without any problems.
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23. September 2005 @ 16:13 |
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Thanks brobear, it was the amount of compression that was throwing me off I really do not want to waste a dual layer on this one, so if RB will do it I will be happy.
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brobear
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23. September 2005 @ 16:24 |
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Shouldn't need to. RB shines at high compression ... and you're welcome.
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