Originally posted by sammorris:

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Which will soon be a thing of the past, if it isn't already. Not a good sign to be honest, there's no reason for a company to turn its back on a loyalty programme unless it's because they're experiencing more failures. The only brands of hard disks I would consider suspect in quality are Maxtor and Hitachi. Given that Maxtor were taken over by Seagate a fair while back they haven't produced anything new in ages so there's no real reason to buy them (Yes, they are still Maxtors underneath)

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Originally posted by sammorris:

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So far so good on no Seagate failures, but the noise is a bit of a pain. In any PC they're clearly audible over the others, especially with the 'chirp' glitch the 7200.10 750GB has.

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Of course a Zalman CPU fan at 12V is a sonic force to be reckoned, creating a symphony of turbulence and whine that sounds like a swarm of tiny, very threatened bees.

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maxtors are seagates with stickers slapped on..... nothing less...

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Originally posted by rick5446:

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theonejrs..Same with my 500gig Seagates, very quiet. I wish they kinda had that click that Maxtors used to have sometimes its hard 2 tell if they R really working

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Originally posted by Sophocles:

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Only recently, they used to make their own drives to the disservice of those who purchased them.

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Originally posted by theonejrs:

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I'm going to go with the 95w Athlon 7750 2.7GHz AM2+ Dual core w/B3 Stepping, instead of the 45w 5050e because it supports 1066 memory and gives me all the features that are in in an AM2+ 790GX MB.
Russ

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Originally posted by sytyguy:

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Originally posted by theonejrs:

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I'm going to go with the 95w Athlon 7750 2.7GHz AM2+ Dual core w/B3 Stepping, instead of the 45w 5050e because it supports 1066 memory and gives me all the features that are in in an AM2+ 790GX MB.
Russ

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I thought you were going with the 4850e CPU. BTW, I cannot find any info on the 5050e on the AMD website. I wonder if they discontinued it?

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Originally posted by theonejrs:

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sytyguy,
Now Bigwill68 has found the media center case I want for only $68, instead of the $129 newegg wants, and the 380w Earthwatts unit that comes with the Antec case will be fine for my use, as I won't need a video card! It also makes it easier on the finances for me

Finding anything on AMD's website is an exercise in futility! It would be easier to lead a marching band through a minefield at midnight on a moonless night! LOL!!

Best Regards,
Russ

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Originally posted by sammorris:

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It's still on sale at newegg... :S

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Originally posted by sammorris:

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I can't believe for a minute that Intel would make a chipset for AMD processors. Did you perhaps mean VIA? Using X38 confuses me further.

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Originally posted by sammorris:

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Interesting review indeed, the Excel results page kind of shocks me. To think my PC can do something in 4 seconds that takes a better Athlon X2 than I had 35 is quite something. Sometimes you forget what you have in the pursuit of increasing performance.

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Originally posted by sammorris:

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Sorry, there's a few things in that post I don't understand/agree with.
First, the Decrease in wattage. Well it's there to an extent, in that the 7750 uses less than the older Quad cores, but it still uses more power than the 45nm Q9300, let alone the 8200, which isn't all that uch to buy either, crossing over into the range of the Phenoms. The X2 5050e's result is surprising though, using far more power than the E7200, which has a higher TDP. The E5000 series use even less power still, by a noticeable margin too.
Secondly, what difference does it make if they use Vista exactly? Firstly, in actual performance-dependent applications, Vista doesn't slow the system down much provided it's configured properly. Secondly, if one CPU is slowed down, they all will be. It's not as if the AMDs were tested with Vista and the Intels with XP.
Third, the inclusion of the i7s. This offends you? It's of no direct comparison to anything from AMD, but that's really the point - look at what desktop CPUs can achieve. The i7 920 itself isn't even that expensive. Gigabyte have released a mainstream UD3R board for the X58 chipset now which places a 6GB RAM setup with the CPU and Motherboard at $675. Twice as much as the cheapest Quad core setups, but twice as fast. Tech enthusiasts have had far worse deals than that in the past - especially with high end graphics cards, you literally used to have to pay twice as much to get 30% more performance, and people paid that.
I'm somewhat disappointed with the initial prices of the Phenom IIs as well, I know they'll drop but wow, the 940 costs more than a Q9400!

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