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6. August 2007 @ 06:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Each to their own, I suppose.



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hey guys what's up? So I have an old Compaq and I used arctic silver on the cpu heatsink and the temps went from high 50s and sometimes low 60s to 40s. So being the brilliant man that I am I decided to use arctic silver on my northbridge heatsink! Only that didn't work out as planned. The damn thing had sticky pink stuff on it that was a b*tch to get off, so again being the brilliant person that I am I decided to use a credit card to get it off. now well a lot of it is off, but not all and i'm stuck with my htc. any ideas on how to get I off.
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It might be thermal epoxy. This might sound a little brash, but can you sand it off?



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abuzar1,
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The damn thing had sticky pink stuff on it that was a b*tch to get off, so again being the brilliant person that I am I decided to use a credit card to get it off. now well a lot of it is off, but not all and i'm stuck with my htc. any ideas on how to get I off.

I use automotive fuel injector cleaner, the kind you add to the gas tank. Works good. When it's clean I use alcohol to finish up!

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Fuel injector, what's that like, Stabil? Also there was a foam border all around it. I don't have any sandpaper right now but yeah I probably could. I decided to get back on my pc, and speedfan shows no real temp difference so I guess I'm good for now.

EDIT: Thermal epoxy, is that like thermal paste plus glue? Why would they need that since it has two metal rods keeping it tight against the motherboard. Although I think you are right since I touched it and it was sticky.

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It's designed to make sure the heatsink doesn't come off. It's done in laptops sometimes.



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Alright so I got my E6400 up and running, now only there is one problem. I am using stock HSF and and at stock speed I am getting 50+ Celcius in temp.
EDIT: I took off the HSF and tried to remount it. The Arctic Silver was spread very unevenly. I have some pics of it, sorry about the quality I has to use my BB Pearl.





EDIT: Well I reaseated the heatsink and now I only get temops around 50C if I have the thing overclocked to 3.2 Ghz.

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That's better!
At full speed, my temps max at about 49C on a hot day, and around 46C on a cold day, at 3.0.




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Still at about 50C but now I'm at 2.4 Ghz. What's wrong?
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If you haven't lowered the voltages, don't expect much of a decrease in temps.



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I never increased the voltage. So even though its a big change in speed the temps are gonna be the same? BTW isn't this a little hot as my temps are idling at around 52-55, not maxing out at that.
EDIT: Oh and for some reason speedfan cant control my fan speeds.

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They are a bit warm, but with the stock cooler that's to be expected.



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Now imagine if I had a Thermalright 120 Ultra.
EDIT: Oh and any ideas on the speedfan thing?

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What about it?



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abuzar1,
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BTW isn't this a little hot as my temps are idling at around 52-55, not maxing out at that.

Check your CPU voltage. It shouldn't need to be much past 1.325v at that speed. The Stock cooler should work a lot better than that. I know it did on the E4300 of Ginas'! Shouldn't be much difference as the cores are all the same, aside from binning! What MB are you using?

I've never had any success with Speed fan on either my Asus P5P800SE or the GigaByte DS3. I'm much happier with the MB controlling the CPU fan speed through the setup, and fans that have individual speed controls! It gives much more positive fan control for the case fans!

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The voltage is at 1.280 v, is that low? Sorry I'm kinda new at this stuff. I have the DS3 and I want to run all the fans at full speed all the time. Noise doesn't bother me all that much. Do you guys have any recommendations for 120 mm fans that move A LOT of air but are around 10-15 bucks? I included a cpuz screenshot.


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cpu-z is a good utility but don't rely on it for cpu voltage. it is seldom accurate. see what it is set at in the bios.

your cpu temp is excessive even for an oem hsf.

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Alright, thanks. I'll go check right now.
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1.325v, and my memory is 2.2v.
EDIT: Memory was 1.8v but I guess this is high performance memory or something and on Crucial's website it said 2.2v so I increased it. I haven't messed with the CPU voltage though.

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abuzar1,
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I have the DS3 and I want to run all the fans at full speed all the time. Noise doesn't bother me all that much. Do you guys have any recommendations for 120 mm fans that move A LOT of air but are around 10-15 bucks?

Just to let you know, sometimes running all the fans at top speed results in higher temps because the air is moving so fast that it doesn't have the time to pick up enough heat. I know this may sound strange, but I can prove it if you would like. Much depends on how dry your climate is. In dryer climates like where I live I use a 120mm Silverstone FM-121 which is capable of 110 cfm at 2400 rpm. I run my rear case fan at 1400 rpm and the cfm is about 70-75 cfm. A lot depends on what case you are using and whether it has static air vents in the side cover. I replaced the CPU air duct with an 80 mm Silverstone FM-83 drawing air out running at it's lowest speed which is 1300 rpm at about 25 cfm. The original CPU air duct was interfering with the airflow of the CPU cooler, causing it to run warmer. Also if your case has a front intake fan and side vents, then you want it to be about 25-30 cfm at max speed. It's enough airflow over and around the hard drives and allows the side and rear (in my case) vents to draw lots of cool air to cool the video card. I have my Freezer 7 Pro fan controlled by the fan controller in the setup and it normally runs about 800-1000 rpm at idle. The freezer 7 is PWM so I run it in PWM mode! If you are running the F11 bios, go back to the F10! I've tried the F11, and it runs a good deal warmer overall! With an E6400, you don't need F11 as it's only for the xx20 series like the E6420, etc.

Which revision is your DS3? I have v1.33. If you have the same version, do not use bios F12! It's only made for v1.0. The downloads for the v1.33 are only available on the Gigabyte USA website! Speedfan doesn't show any fan speeds or acurate temps on my MB so I use Everest Ultimate 2007, which works fine and agrees with the bios!

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9. August 2007 @ 22:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oh DAMN. I have rev 3.3 and I flashed F12 BIOS. Ill go back to the F10 then. I am using a Ultra Grid case. One intake fan in front on in back. VGA vent and CPU cooler duct. Also I live in Orlando, Florida so its not that dry.
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abuzar1,
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Oh DAMN. I have rev 3.3 and I flashed F12 BIOS. Ill go back to the F10 then. I am using a Ultra Grid case. One intake fan in front on in back. VGA vent and CPU cooler duct. Also I live in Orlando, Florida so its not that dry.

I'm willing to bet it came with the F10 installed! Sometimes the latest bios is not always the best one!

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abuzar1,

Your case is about the same as mine ventilation wise, so I would leave the front fan as is, Put an FM-121 in the rear, throw away the CPU duct and replace it with an FM-83 mounted flange out and it should do a great job of cooling. The FM-83 comes with a slot mount for 3 individual controls, so you wouldn't have to worry about where to put the control for the 120!

Also, if you haven't modded the chipset heatsink with AS5, than you need to consider doing it. What are your MB temps? If they are consistently lower than 40C, then leave it alone. It's a pain as you almost always have to pull the MB to do it! Before that, I would check very carefully to make sure the CPU cooler is flat on the CPU and not being caught by something! Your temps are 20+C higher than my E4300, and that shouldn't be. See what happens with the F10 bios as I'm sure the temps will drop!

Your package is sent!

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10. August 2007 @ 01:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Pull the motherboard to replace the CPU cooler? The only time I've had to do that is with the CNPS7000Alcu Zalman, because it used a backplate.



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Thanks theone, I just downloaded it. I think I'll flash F10 BIOS now and report the changes. My chipset temps are around 43C. You meant that I should put a fan blowing air out the cpu air duct?

Thanks,
Abuzar.

EDIT: With the F10 BIOS my chipset temps dropped a few degrees. My CPU temps however dropped about 10. My Core #0, Core #1 temp are around 52, but my CPU temps are around 40 now. Before the CPU temps were in the 50s also.

BTW man this utility is AWESOME. Thanks.

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