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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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11. December 2008 @ 11:53 |
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rob, they are encoding video not games lool.
its showing the GPU>CPU for encoding, all it needs is support from the good software makers :)
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11. December 2008 @ 13:08 |
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RedRob you got some good parts there. ;) Sam pegged the video card if you ask me. :D
I'd consider some other changes too but what you have is great. ;) A modular psu, maybe Corsair, Antec, or Mushkin are some possibilities. link to Corsair 620HX - Mushkin psu's These aren't the only companies that make modular psu's but I like them. After using a modular psu I really think it's the way to go if you don't need all the connectors. Of course you'll have plenty of room to hide stuff with that case. ;)
You might consider one of these for RAM if strapped for cash at the time, I really like your choice tho. ;)
cpu cooler? don't you already have a couple? Use one of those until you think you need something better. ;)
HDD's - Rob if you don't have an "OS" HDD for this rig yet I would consider one of these as a choice then add the "BIG" HDD later. ;)
See what you think about that RedRob. ;)
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add: almost forgot, always remember to shop around. You just might save a few bucks on shipping, MIR's, or off the price and be able to get something else you needed. :)
GOOD LUCK buddy!!!! and congrats on the NEW job.... that's great. :)
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11. December 2008 @ 13:11 |
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after reading that a couple more times., it seems to be headed in the right direction. like you said it need the software company's to make software for the GPU's to do the encodeing. as for ATI and Nvidia each only have there own software to do the encodeing. it would wind up being like DVD-Rebuilder..encodes the files then creates the output and then you burn with what ever program you want.
so with this in mind does that mean there will be more stream processors on the new and up comeing GPU's? what is the highest right now between 800-920 stream proc.?????
link to Nvidia's badaboom
http://www.badaboomit.com/
link to ATI's Avivo
http://ati.amd.com/technology/avivo/technology.html
gotta pay for badaboom Avivio is free.
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spamual
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11. December 2008 @ 13:29 |
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the new badaboom 1.1 includes multiple GPU proccessing.
also:
http://ati.amd.com/technology/streamcomp...ertainment.html
CyberLink PowerDirector in Q1 2009 will have full ati support.
arcsoft aswell with their whole media suite.
im sure in 9.1 drivers there will be a bigger support with AVIVO and yes rob more stream proccessors for the next GPu gen minimum, after that we might get a new type of proccessiung, we had pipelines and pixel and vertex shading, now we have stream processing, who knows what else is to come, esp with dx12
including the 4870x2 there are 1600 for ATI.
but these are 5 wayy scaler proccessors, and that kind of translated to nvidias that = 320 (but if dual GPU support is not working then that = 160
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11. December 2008 @ 13:32 |
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i was looking at that GPU also. but i was thinking of doing some folding with this new build and the nvidia cards get better ppd than the ATI cards.
ive also thought about the corsair 620hx. will it be enough power for the Q9550 and the bigger GPU? that was my thinking on the TX750(as i have the TX650)
and the mem i choose is the 4gb version of the 2gb i have now and love.DDR2 800.i know i can OC them to 1066 so no need t obuy the more excpensive 1066...lol
the hdd i currently now have 1 of those 250gb sata seagates and a ide 250gb. im gonna use the sata one for the new build along with that 500gb...and take the 500gb GP WD and put it into the new build.and leave the 250gb in the old one now need for more than 250gb of space on that rig.
and for prices. i now where i can get most of them parts alot cheaper when the time comes..just the CPU i can get a;lmost $70 cheaper(microcenter) and the case $30 cheaper there also.
good point on the cooler i cna use the ACF 7 pro on it for the time being..lol might need that lapped. ;)~
if things work the way i/we are counting on i can get the mem,hdd and maybe mobo for x-mas... fingers crossed. or i could get the CPU and use it right now and not wait for 3-4 months to have it all.lol
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spamual
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11. December 2008 @ 13:42 |
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hx 620 will be enough.
yes nvidia cards kill folding and i dont know if f@h will support ati stream.
the cuda support for nvida is pretty good.
id get 2 nvidia card, obv dont run them in sli, seperately, IMO 2 8800GTs as you can get them for cheap, and use them.
just want to say about your HDDs, a 640GB or 320GB will be faster thant he 500/250 due to bigger platters, 320GB vs the older 250GB.
GM i am to get my Q9550 tomrow, finger crossed its an E0 hehe.
then on wed i go home from york uni, back to london where the rest of my PC is, and ill build.
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11. December 2008 @ 13:49 |
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For the record, Mushkin PSUs have been very noisy in the past. I would go with an OCZ over a Mushkin for that reason.
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11. December 2008 @ 14:40 |
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I don't know if Stanford has patched their ATI support but if you divide the ATI/nVidia TFLOPS by the number of active GPU's the difference is about .01%. So it looks like either brand folds just as well, or there's a lot more people with higher end cards folding with ATI.
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11. December 2008 @ 15:04 |
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you cant just dive the terra flops though, PPD is the main thign to look at when folding, and nvida get LAODS more than ati.
infact a PS3 would be a good idea
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11. December 2008 @ 16:05 |
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kinda off topic here but informative.
i plan on joining the team with Soph,64026402 and a few others.they have crack the top 500 teams list with just 4 guys.and there advise/instructions is what im basing my decision on. as you guys know im not a big gammer like some of the good peeps here are. but i am getting into it more. and i like the concept of folding. a good cause plus it will let ya really know how stable your build is..
i like the idea of a hd4850,but fo the better of things i think the 8800gt/gts would be more in line of me right now.. but then again its not to be said that i wont get a hd4850..lol man i sound like a woman.. cant make up my mind...at least not until its time to hit hte buy button....or microcenter has a good sale... they do have better deals on there ATI cards compared to the Nvidia cards.
ihave thought about my earlier comment about getting the Q9550 now instead of hte smaller priced stuff... i can use it now with the stuff i have. and then buy the rest a peaice here and there...i really like that idea better... plus i know microcenter has them and EO stepping..
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11. December 2008 @ 16:09 |
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I used to fold for DVDHounds, but found the dual core client very buggy, it kept trying to do the same work unit, and cancelling each other out.
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11. December 2008 @ 17:18 |
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I know this one guy who had a 20rig Quad core folding farm. What he did to increase performance was to sell off all his computers, get cheap dual cores(e2180s I think) and have 20 dual core computers all folding from video cards. Either 9600GTs or 8800GTs, I don't remember.
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11. December 2008 @ 17:59 |
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@spamual,
Crosses fingers to aid in getting E0 stepping. good luck to you...
@RedRob,
I thought you had a couple of "smaller" HDD's lying around but couldn't remember which ones they were. ;) The 500GB will be a nice addition. :D
Get the cpu now and then mess around with it until you can't stand it any more. lol. :P
Just throwing some ideas out at you... but the RAM you chose, as I said, is great. :D
The 620HX will handle the power easily!! I just like the idea of the modular psu, just me I guess. ;) If worried about power get the 850W Antec modular. :D I have the 1000W version and it's a beauty. :D
NOW get to buying something.. you TEASER!!!!! hehehee.
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add: sorry humor emerged again. lol.
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11. December 2008 @ 19:08 |
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11. December 2008 @ 19:37 |
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I know this one guy who had a 20rig Quad core folding farm. What he did to increase performance was to sell off all his computers, get cheap dual cores(e2180s I think) and have 20 dual core computers all folding from video cards. Either 9600GTs or 8800GTs, I don't remember.
A single decent GPU can fold about as fast as 20 dual cores processors thanks to Nvidia's CUDA drivers and some new folding@home software development. Using a CPU for folding now is a waste of power. Mini super computers called Tesla are being built using a combination of CPU and GPU power. Here's the kicker. So far the GPU units are are Nvidia and the CPU units are AMD. LOL
http://www.nvidia.com/object/tesla_computing_solutions.html
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11. December 2008 @ 19:40 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
But is the 850W Antec actually 850W? Me I'd go with the Zalman ZM850-HP. That's a fine unit.
Thanks for pointing that out Sammy. :)
Zalman 850
Antec 850
On the surface they are good units but the Zalman stands out to me with the extra 28A rails. Looks like a true 850W continuous or more could be obtained out of this unit. This doesn't make the Antec a bad unit, it just might fall short of the Zalman. Both are the same price and if it was my money I'd put it on the Zalman. Again thanks for the response Sammy. ;)
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11. December 2008 @ 20:18 |
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I say this because I'm pretty sure Antec are one of the manufacturers who failed the genuine 1KW rig test, whereas I think Zalman and Corsair passed it.
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11. December 2008 @ 21:07 |
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Originally posted by spamual:
video encoders what do you think?
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option...temid=1
spamual,
You might want to keep in mind that it's a Transcoder and not an Encoder. Transcoders are faster than Encoders, but can't match the quality output of a good Encoder like CCE!
Russ
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12. December 2008 @ 10:23 |
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Sorry russ I didn't know that, cheers for the heads up. My q9550 got returned by ebuyer, well they sent a new one to me and on the box it says SLB8V. If I'm not mistaken...... E0?
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12. December 2008 @ 10:33 |
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Yes, SLB8V is E0, SLAWQ is C1. Looks like the RMA paid dividends... Try not to break this one eh? :P
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12. December 2008 @ 19:32 |
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12. December 2008 @ 19:34 |
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You need to use alternate slots, i.e. 1&3, or 2&4. The sticks can't be directly next to each other (i.e. 1&2, 2&3, 3&4)
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12. December 2008 @ 19:39 |
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I just installed my new RAM (Corsair Dominator PC28500) and cpu-z has it listed and single channel. Have I set something wrong or is cpu-z wrong?
If you installed your RAM side by side then try installing it in slots 1 and 3. Memory slots are color coded so if the first module to the left as you look down is yellow then install the other module in a slot of the same color.
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12. December 2008 @ 20:15 |
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haha thanks Sophocles. When I read your post I realized what I'd done, it also occurred to me that I've had my RAM put in like that since I first built this system.
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12. December 2008 @ 23:20 |
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GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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