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16. November 2007 @ 00:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
sammorris,
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Have you looked at the tom's hardware benches I linked here?

Yes, but Tom's Hardware didn't have their head buried in the sand like Vr-Zone! LOL!! Makes you wonder who Vr-Zone's major sponsors are! LOL!! April Fools Day was in April guys! LOL!! That's why it's called "April Fools Day"! So much for credibility!

Nice showing at Tom's but AMD/Ati has a lot of work to do yet as nVidia still holds the crown by a decent margin!

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16. November 2007 @ 00:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oh definitely. I think it may be some time before ATi makes a card that can best the 8800GTX / Ultra. Bad news for the industry as without competition, there'll probably be very little in the way of advance.



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Speaking of RAM, I har a lot of guys complaining of some of these overclocked Micro D9's killing over on above 2.2v, especially the "quote" high speed DDR2 as in PC2-8200/8500/9200/9600. I use the Crucial PC2-8500 at average of 2.45v on one rig as DDR1000 @ 4-4-4-12 and the 2nd set as DDR1200 @ 5-5-5-15; 2.28v. The 2.28s has only bean going for a month now. The other 2 sets I have @ 2.245v have bean as so for over a yr now. Just wondering if this is felt to be too high for some of you out there using D9's OC'd to the gills. These have done DDR1266/2.34v but get warm and need better forced air.

Who can share results of high RAM volt/OC weather tight timingss or high Frequency?

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Regarding Gigabyte RMA! Can you post that contact info w/ number and email so I can get started on my RMA for rev. 2.xx? Was it any different for you? I am on the origional rev.1.03 since I got it when brand new and no ver 2 yet and still on 1st only BIOS then. So will I even get a rev 2.xx?

Thankx in advance!

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Customer Service Center

GIGABYTE TECHNOLOGY

TEL: 1-626-854-9338 op. 4

FAX: 1-626-854-9326

EMAIL: services@gigabyte-usa.com

www.gigabyte-usa.com

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So will I even get a rev 2.xx?

Which MB is this for? What's the problem with it? Check on their website, but do it through Newegg! Just click on the Manufacturer's Information and go to the Product page. It's faster and easier. If you look up top they list the revisions for the particular MB. That way you'll know what's available.

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16. November 2007 @ 03:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Which MB is this for? What's the problem with it?

Regarding Gigabyte GA-P25C-DS3R. Not to alarm any would be buyers, it's fine as of now other then lil' quirks as metioned earlier about loss of OC profile when crashing from fail to lock to ACPI when coming out of S3 "Stand By" at over 450FSB. S4 is fine up to 505FSB, 510 and 515 is slow and iffy going into S4. Buts thats not really a big dealsince it's already a high OC for most midrange mobos righ now. (Just to note, the MAXIMUS only did 505 stable in full ACPI w/ exact saem CPU)

I do plan on moving to DDR3 w/ likely PC3-12800 or 14400 so would wonder if deviders on the DDR3 side will be compatible w/ NIOS flash alone. What was revised in new rev. 2.00 other then the visual changes we see.?

I am pleased to hear of the good service you guys are getting from Gigabyte and may look into the X38T-DQ6 for my next project. Oh ya, I see a new X38 as GA-X38-DS5, may be entry since it has no RIAD but offers PCIE v2.0 and of Corse Crossfire dual 16x. See their Product page for more info. Already on sale @ NewEgg for $299.99

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LP531,AMD/Ati must love Vr-Zone. The tested against an 8600??? What kind of real test is that? ROFLMAO!! Come on guys, where's the 8800 results!


I was only giving you guys the numbers for the New ATI cards...I figured you already knew the #'s for the 8800GTX and GTS...LOL..:)

On the New 8800GT I got a close to 12,000 on 2006 3D mark and around 19,500 in SLI...No OC...No break In...

Off to Bed...Got to get up in 2.5hrs and do another show...Me very tired..x)


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LP531,
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I was only giving you guys the numbers for the New ATI cards...I figured you already knew the #'s for the 8800GTX and GTS...LOL..:)

I was talking about the figures shown. Looks suspiciously like the info came straight from AMD to make themselves look better to less knowledgeable people, instead of showing it against the 8800GT. We all know Ati has a bit of work to do yet, but let's face it, comparing benchmarks between old technology and the latest Ati has to offer is suspect at best. Maybe AMD never heard of the 8800 series! ROFLMAO!! Then again, it looks good with all that red at the top of the graphs! LOL!! It's not dishonest, only suspect, to those who know what they are looking at. Must be after the "newbie" market! LOL!!

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16. November 2007 @ 14:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OK, the definitive chart (after a lot of statistical analysis - meh, I enjoyed it)
1. 8800GTX
2. 8800GT
3. HD2900XT
4. HD3870XT
5. 8800GTS 640MB
6. 8800GTS 320MB
7. HD3850 Pro
8. 8600GTS



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18. November 2007 @ 14:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
OK, the definitive chart (after a lot of statistical analysis - meh, I enjoyed it)
1. 8800GTX
2. 8800GT
3. HD2900XT
4. HD3870XT
5. 8800GTS 640MB
6. 8800GTS 320MB
7. HD3850 Pro
8. 8600GTS

Why would you say the 8800GT is better than the 8800GTS, when the GTS seems to cost more?
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18. November 2007 @ 15:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
just caus it costs more does not justify it being better.

the old e6700, costs way more than the newer, more OCfriendly, faster e6750, but that dont make it better. ddr1 ram costs more than ddr2 ram, but that dont make it better.
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Well put.
The 8800GT is newer than the GTS, and uses a revised version of the architecture meaning that not only can the card be made cheaper, but also faster. The GTS is being withdrawn from sale at a lot of places, since it's now pointless.



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18. November 2007 @ 18:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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just caus it costs more does not justify it being better.
Little more to it then that. Like Sam says, it has more to do with newer revision and technology. So comparing thoase older CPU's or RAM was not fare. That goes to supply and demand. Less DDR1 made so it cost more to get out. Just like SDRAM or RDRAM RAM-BUS. So little made it cost a lot to produce today, yet people are using it. As for the CPU, well Intel has to ginve the go ahead for retailers to drop prices to a certain degree. So an expensive E6700 can only come down so much before, Intel and resellers have to take a loss. And we know that wont happen for quite some time. So others just move to the new revision.

Better example is more memory = more overhead for both the GPU and mobo bus and PCIE lanes. So of corse a less amount of better OC'd GDDR can feel faster and also be more stable then a large 512 or 768mb of averge GDDR, cause it now need to be a bit relaxed to be as stable. Same reason Serious Overclockers do not try to run more then 2 sticks of 1gb (2gb kit, 2 slots occupied). More overhead on the NB and MCH as well as the overall system so it is either needing to be relaxed timings or slower speed. Al in all, meaning slower responce or less stable at higher FSB.

2x512 was ideal for those of us remembering what it was like to OC on Northwoods w/ !875P, and of corse 2x256 could be faster if in the right set up.

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Well, I'm not a gamer but this seems to be an interesting concept!

http://game.amd.com/us-en/unlock_spider.aspx?p=1

Don't know what AMD is up to but this things supposed to be made primarily for games!

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abuzar1,
I accidentally had it through my e-mail! I opened the page and changed to the right url!

Sorry,
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What do you guys think about X48 coming out so soon after X38 barely got its foot in the door?

X48 is coming soon and likely with release of Penryn. It is said to be offered as DDR3 only solutions from major mobo makers. It really only officially claims support for new DDR1600 and 1600FSB CPU's. Again, notthing big for us overclockers, since even P35 can do this already out of the box. It will also bring Intels memory profile system (like nVidias' SLI memory).

So I don't see X48 being a big deal or even a need for us current X38 or high end P35 users, especially if sticking DDR2 for another year. If anything, for those still on P965 or low end P35's may think about holding for affordable upgrade as new crave for Penryn and X48 hits, X38 will or should go down. Unless it remains like !975X, the high quality, expensive performance chip, to where it ends up cheaper to go with mainstream chip by then.

Only time is gonna' tell. In any event, X38 with it's recent BIOS fixes is more then showing it has passed P35 on the top end. But then, I haven't seen any low end X38, lol. If X38 last into next summer, it's gonna' be the best of the DDR2 CPU/RAM overclockers.

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20. November 2007 @ 06:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oh the Spider platform. I personally think it is awesome. I am tired of all these new chipsets coming out, and I read that the new Intel CPUs coming out will not be compatible with the X38 chipset. I will definetly be going AMD with my new build, although with a NVIDIA GPU, unless AMD comes up something good to beat the 8000 series.
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20. November 2007 @ 14:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
As for me, I'm not going to rush into anything. I'll see what the Phenoms are like first. Besides, my board will support the 45nm CPUs I'm told, so that may well be my next upgrade.
I'm a little dubious mainly due to this:





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With Nehalem coming so shortly after, I may just wait for that instead. Unless it's release (close to end of '08) drops Penryn prices, then I will pick up one to play with. Beside, I see only two extreme quads for 1sst release this coming Janurary. I can't wait till 32nm Nehalem on quad with integrated DDR3 memory controller and large shared cache and dual tread per core (like HT on D extremes).

I look at it like this, it's a continuing game. The newer, if keeping on track, is gonna' be better then present. So of corse we wanna' upgrade asap. Only question, is how much better for the mony at introduction. At 1st I wondered if my current X38 would be 32nm ready, but then figured, w/ X48 or something newer by then I will have moved on to that by then.

What more can you guys share about Phenoms? Even if it doesn't beat Intel, it should be better then current offerings. I may have to get a new AMD mobo too now most likely. The CROSSHAIR is passing its 2 years now.

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The phenoms are a little bit slower than the Intels, but they are also a little bit cheaper. The price/performance ration is the same. AMD just happens to offer much better compatibility for future upgrades.
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@abuzar1
The 3870 look like it is close to the 8800 series in gaming performance...beats them in power consumption...heat generation...and HD/Blueray playback...

ATI is going for HD/Blueray playback as one of there big selling points...Looks like there is finally a very good Gaming Card...with excellent HD/Blueray capabilities...


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20. November 2007 @ 15:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Did you see the screenshots of it playing Crysis?
It looks like we're back to the good old ways where the nvidia card is slightly faster, but the ATi card renders a better image. At this point I certainly favour the HD3870.



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sammorris,
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I'm a little dubious mainly due to this:

Due to what, there's no link! All that's there is something that doesn't open cause there's nothing to open it with!

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20. November 2007 @ 16:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It works for me!
It's an image from Tom's Hardware.
URL:
http://images.tomshardware.com/2007/11/1...dra_cpu_alu.png



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