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Tutorial: How to stream bluray to ps3
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ggpr
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1. December 2008 @ 00:53 |
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no problem, thanks for all your help!
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ggpr
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3. December 2008 @ 02:42 |
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I was just able to snag up a LG GBW-H20 for $240 CAD + shipping from pcvonline.com Mind if i ask you where you typically buy your bd-r's from odin? I have been referred to this place as one of the better deals, but i have no experience with this brand "blaze" and would prefer a standard quality brand like verbatim if i could find them near as cheap. Thanks
ps - sorry for getting a bit off topic here.
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3. December 2008 @ 04:11 |
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Looks like a good deal, too bad it doesn'r read HD DVD.
Honestly though, I have never purchased a BD-R, only RE, and that one instance was at Future Shop on sale for $15, it was a Verb. Also, when it went on sale the BD-Rs were $10. Oh, yeah... I just purchased that BD-RE50 that you showed me, hopefully it'll deliver before the weekend.
Maybe try http://www.newegg.ca I think they have good deals too.
Usually FS puts their BD-Rs on sale every third or fourth week.
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ggpr
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3. December 2008 @ 10:55 |
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I'm not too concerned about HD DVD, I don't own one or ever intend too, so hopefully i won't regret it later! My brother actually works at futureshop so I had him checking the deals for me today anyways. Newegg and ncix is where i would normally shop, but im really tempted by the 20 BD-R's for ~120 CAD. Another place ive seen decent deals is ebay, but I'm not sure about buying discs on there. I'd assume some of them have to be legit, but i dunno. Anyways, thanks again. Have a good one!
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3. December 2008 @ 17:07 |
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Originally posted by ggpr:
I'm not too concerned about HD DVD, I don't own one or ever intend too, so hopefully i won't regret it later! My brother actually works at futureshop so I had him checking the deals for me today anyways. Newegg and ncix is where i would normally shop, but im really tempted by the 20 BD-R's for ~120 CAD. Another place ive seen decent deals is ebay, but I'm not sure about buying discs on there. I'd assume some of them have to be legit, but i dunno. Anyways, thanks again. Have a good one!
I only mentioned HDDVD because it is extremely easy to convert a HDDVD to BD, afterall... back when both formats were at war, the titles that were on both formats were encoded the exact same way, just structured different. It literaly takes about 15 minutes to make HDDVD A/V streams BD ready.
There are also a select few titles that are only available on HDDVD, they'll probably come out eventually on BD, but who knows.
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ggpr
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4. December 2008 @ 02:14 |
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Ahh, good to know. I suppose I will just have to download those ones for now if i encounter something like that. Thank god for news servers!
While I have your attention I will try and get some more info out of you! If i wanted to strip a full BD and make it into a ps3 compatible bluray movie that will fit on a 25gb disc, All I would need to do is mux the movies main m2ts with tsmuxer into a bluray structure? Then take this and burn it with img burn with UDF 2.5 format?
The only problem I could see with this, is when I have TrueHD audio(which tsmuxer doesn't like?). In this case I would need to convert the TrueHD into LPCM, or is it possible to convert TrueHD to a dts hd form? I would then mux this into a bluray structure with tsmuxer and then burn.
Thanks again.
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4. December 2008 @ 02:32 |
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Originally posted by ggpr:
Ahh, good to know. I suppose I will just have to download those ones for now if i encounter something like that. Thank god for news servers!
While I have your attention I will try and get some more info out of you! If i wanted to strip a full BD and make it into a ps3 compatible bluray movie that will fit on a 25gb disc, All I would need to do is mux the movies main m2ts with tsmuxer into a bluray structure? Then take this and burn it with img burn with UDF 2.5 format?
The only problem I could see with this, is when I have TrueHD audio(which tsmuxer doesn't like?). In this case I would need to convert the TrueHD into LPCM, or is it possible to convert TrueHD to a dts hd form? I would then mux this into a bluray structure with tsmuxer and then burn.
Thanks again.
There is a way to keep the TrueHD track. Use a program called tsremux (not tsMuxeR), load the whole m2ts from the BD rip, select only the tracks you want and mux to BD.
If you have raw streams, mux everything together using tsMuxeR to m2ts. tsMuxeR accepts TrueHD tracks, it's just playback that is the issue. Then take that m2ts file and use tsremux andmux to BD.
Here's what I do. I haven't come across a BD that I wanted to copy to a blank, I usually convert the HD audio to LPCM remux to m2ts and copy the whole movie, in one piece to my PS3's HDD. If I really want the movie I'll buy it, or if it's really expensive I might copy it to a BD25. If I did copy the movie I would definetley use the HD audio, not LPCM for obvious reasons.
This only works if you know you do not need subtitles because subs in raw m2ts files is a no go. Also you need a media server to move files larger than 4GB to the PS3's HDD. You can tell if the movie requires subs that are not hardcoded by demuxing them and actually looking at them using SUPread, it's an app that reads SUP subtitle files.
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ggpr
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4. December 2008 @ 02:48 |
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Thanks, I'll have to give tsremux a shot. I was probably only going to burn movies with VC-1 codec for now, to avoid a complete re-encode to allow it to play off the ps3's internal hard drive. Thanks again!
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4. December 2008 @ 03:11 |
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Originally posted by ggpr:
Thanks, I'll have to give tsremux a shot. I was probably only going to burn movies with VC-1 codec for now, to avoid a complete re-encode to allow it to play off the ps3's internal hard drive. Thanks again!
Oh yeah, forgot about VC-1 and m2ts. It might be a good idea to invest in a BD-RE 25 at least.
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KidKappa
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8. January 2009 @ 00:20 |
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Hey Odin, just wondering if I put in a 500gb drive into my ps3 will I just be able to copy the .m2ts files over or will they only play stream and not locally?
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8. January 2009 @ 07:48 |
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Originally posted by KidKappa:
Hey Odin, just wondering if I put in a 500gb drive into my ps3 will I just be able to copy the .m2ts files over or will they only play stream and not locally?
You can copy them to the PS3's HDD and play locally. I do this often with my 60GB PS3. Which drive did you get?
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beerlover
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8. January 2009 @ 10:19 |
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Odin24 to quote you "If your video does not require subtitles you can copy the entire m2ts file straight from the BD rip via a home network to your PS3. The audio can only be regular AC3"
I just bought a Blu Rom thinking a I could just Rip and Stream to PS3 like I do DVDs. From what your saying above I could just use AnyDVD to RIP and then stream, no extra hassle. No desire to burn. I first wanted to make sure I understood you correctly and then pose a question.
Can I copy them to my hard drive without a ripper and stream and watch on PS3?. With regular dvds I could copy files without a ripper to my pc and watch the files (however when you burned them, the protection was in play and you got lines or fuzz on the frames). My point is that without AnyDVD, I can explore a blu ray in windows explorer. I haven't tried this yet but Can I copy them to my harddrive without a ripper and stream and watch on PS3? via this method. I am not worried about subtitles, AC3 is fine with me and I don't care to burn the files.
I'm trying to figure all this out before the 14 day return policy runs out on the drive. If I can't rip and stream simply for little added cost then I am going to return the drive and keep my cash.
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8. January 2009 @ 11:02 |
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Originally posted by beerlover:
Odin24 to quote you "If your video does not require subtitles you can copy the entire m2ts file straight from the BD rip via a home network to your PS3. The audio can only be regular AC3"
Let me correct myself... the audio can be LPCM as well, DTS HD-MA and TrueHD can be converted using eac3to then running through pcm2tsmu for tsMuxeR compatibility.
I just bought a Blu Rom thinking a I could just Rip and Stream to PS3 like I do DVDs. From what your saying above I could just use AnyDVD to RIP and then stream, no extra hassle. No desire to burn. I first wanted to make sure I understood you correctly and then pose a question.
Yes, you'd need to rip to your PC first and remove copyright protection, then I suggest convert audio if necesary, then remux the video and audio only... otherwise you might get an incompatible file.
Can I copy them to my hard drive without a ripper and stream and watch on PS3?. With regular dvds I could copy files without a ripper to my pc and watch the files (however when you burned them, the protection was in play and you got lines or fuzz on the frames). My point is that without AnyDVD, I can explore a blu ray in windows explorer. I haven't tried this yet but Can I copy them to my harddrive without a ripper and stream and watch on PS3? via this method. I am not worried about subtitles, AC3 is fine with me and I don't care to burn the files.
The video will not play unless AnyDVDHD is used, or there are other methods that are fairly complicated... but AnyDVD is fairly easy to get nowadays... wink, wink.
I'm trying to figure all this out before the 14 day return policy runs out on the drive. If I can't rip and stream simply for little added cost then I am going to return the drive and keep my cash.
Ripping/streaming is too easy, the only stipulation with streaming is the video must be AVC/h264 or MPEG-2, or else it will not work... like with VC-1 streams, which is common on Blu-ray. There is a workaround but you need an external HDD, formatted to FAT32. I can get into that but that's a whole other topic.
I suggest you keep the BD-ROM and start experimenting, and if you do not have an external HDD, get one and make sure it is at least 50GB... this will come in handy when you need subtitles, or want DTS, or have a VC-1 Blu-ray.
See my comments above. Once you start experimenting I can help you along the way... once you get it, it's too easy.
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beerlover
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8. January 2009 @ 11:53 |
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Thanks for the feedback. Will experiment.
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KidKappa
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9. January 2009 @ 00:41 |
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Hey Odin, I haven't bought the 500gb drive yet but I was looking at the WD one on newegg.ca. Then I got to reading about NAS but everything seems to have to slow speeds, with bluray you need upwards of 40Mb/s. The pros of NAS would be to not have my computer on all the time plus more storage than my already packed tower can handle. Do you know anything about NAS or DAS?
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9. January 2009 @ 08:00 |
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Originally posted by KidKappa:
Hey Odin, I haven't bought the 500gb drive yet but I was looking at the WD one on newegg.ca. Then I got to reading about NAS but everything seems to have to slow speeds, with bluray you need upwards of 40Mb/s. The pros of NAS would be to not have my computer on all the time plus more storage than my already packed tower can handle. Do you know anything about NAS or DAS?
I know nothing about those.
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beerlover
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9. January 2009 @ 08:29 |
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The MyBook's are already Fat32 formatted so I've heard people in the forums recommending for PS3 (as an external drive - for holding media).
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JT1807
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19. January 2009 @ 21:07 |
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KidKappa, I have read your previous post with Odin24
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/701752
and I am having the white noise problem 8-40 minutes into the movie that you had before.
I have installed all the software and used your instructions to the letter to no avail. Any advice? I am using
Total Media Theatre 2.1.6.128
eac3to_more_gui 1.09b
pcm2tsmu v1.3
Latest Anydvd Hd
Thanks for the help everyone
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KidKappa
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20. January 2009 @ 00:16 |
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Are you trying to get HD or Lossy audio? Also I have a receiver capable of decoding truehd or dtsma, i'm not sure if this factors in or not. Once I started converting to lpcm everything cleared up for me. I also think in the stdout.log there should be a little mention of using the arcsoft for decoding, or the libav/. Odin, have any ideas?
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JT1807
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20. January 2009 @ 06:30 |
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Most definitely HD. I will check the logs, however it uses Arcsoft for DTS and libav for TrueHD, at least thats what the screen says if I do it one step at a time.
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Poseidon9
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31. January 2009 @ 10:42 |
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After following all the steps for lossless PCM audio and tested with 2 different movies. I run MediaInfo on the final m2ts file and it shows only 1 channel of audio. What's the solution?
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31. January 2009 @ 10:55 |
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It's an unreliable report. I just verified with a 24 bit 5.1 pcm file on my PC, it reported 2 channel... basically something that it isn't. Your file is probably how it should be, 5.1.
If you really need to know check using eac3to. You'll need to enter in via command prompt though.
folder\eac3to.exe audiofolder\audio.pcm
Running a command simialr to this will tell you the correct properties of your PCM file. Just make sure the command line is specific to your directories.
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Poseidon9
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31. January 2009 @ 12:36 |
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The PCM file by itself is 5.1 but after tsmuxer the final combined file is reported to be mono.. Or "1" channel.
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31. January 2009 @ 12:41 |
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The m2ts file will play as 5.1.
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firefly75
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7. February 2009 @ 19:34 |
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Terrific guide!
I'm guessing it's almost pointless to ask whether I can stream it over my wireless network? I have a Linksys 802.11/g wireless router (54Mb/s)... can it handle streaming BR to my PS3?
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