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Tutorial: How to stream bluray to ps3
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Dazz78
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8. November 2009 @ 23:48 |
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Just wondering how you guys are adding subtitle with the blu ray when streaming to the ps3. I am using Java PS3 Server Media. When I rip the disc with MakeMKV I select the movie file, one audio track and one subtitle (first English sub). After ripping the file on my drive. I open up tsMuxer GUI and add the mkv file. Once I open up the MKV file the only tracks are see are one for video and one for audio. After creating the ts file I am using TsMuxer (Transcode) on PSMS to play. Am i doing something wrong or do I need to rip the movie a different way. Thanks
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9. November 2009 @ 00:48 |
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Originally posted by Dazz78:
Just wondering how you guys are adding subtitle with the blu ray when streaming to the ps3. I am using Java PS3 Server Media. When I rip the disc with MakeMKV I select the movie file, one audio track and one subtitle (first English sub). After ripping the file on my drive. I open up tsMuxer GUI and add the mkv file. Once I open up the MKV file the only tracks are see are one for video and one for audio. After creating the ts file I am using TsMuxer (Transcode) on PSMS to play. Am i doing something wrong or do I need to rip the movie a different way. Thanks
Subs aren't possible through streaming, unless you hardcode them directly into the video stream... which means reencoding. I suggest you use AVCHD format instead with an external hard drive.
See here or here for more information.
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Dazz78
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11. November 2009 @ 15:27 |
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Originally posted by odin24:
Originally posted by Dazz78:
Just wondering how you guys are adding subtitle with the blu ray when streaming to the ps3. I am using Java PS3 Server Media. When I rip the disc with MakeMKV I select the movie file, one audio track and one subtitle (first English sub). After ripping the file on my drive. I open up tsMuxer GUI and add the mkv file. Once I open up the MKV file the only tracks are see are one for video and one for audio. After creating the ts file I am using TsMuxer (Transcode) on PSMS to play. Am i doing something wrong or do I need to rip the movie a different way. Thanks
Subs aren't possible through streaming, unless you hardcode them directly into the video stream... which means reencoding. I suggest you use AVCHD format instead with an external hard drive.
See here or here for more information.
Okay so theres no way to view subs when streaming to the ps3 via java ps3 media server? I believe I know why I am not able to view subtitle when using the ps3 media server correct me if Im wrong. I rip the movie with makemkv to one file. Before ripping I make sure that I selected video, audio and one subtitle. After ripping the movie, I open up MediaInfo and load that mkv file. I believe this is the subtitle I choose earlier "1 text stream: PGS".
Here is the issue I am at right now, I need to breakdown this big mkv file ( 21 gb) into 8 gb files. Reason is my computer is too slow to stream that single mkv file when using MEncoder. When i use TsMuxer GUi to split that file into 8gb files. After split the files I open up Mediainfo to check the 8gb files. I noticed that the text stream: PGS is gone. This is why when i play back that file with Meconder subtitle is not there. It seems like TsMuxer is stripping the subtitle. is there another software I could use to split the large mkv file and still keep the subtitle? thanks
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11. November 2009 @ 15:54 |
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Originally posted by Dazz78:
Okay so theres no way to view subs when streaming to the ps3 via java ps3 media server? I believe I know why I am not able to view subtitle when using the ps3 media server correct me if Im wrong. I rip the movie with makemkv to one file. Before ripping I make sure that I selected video, audio and one subtitle. After ripping the movie, I open up MediaInfo and load that mkv file. I believe this is the subtitle I choose earlier "1 text stream: PGS".
Here is the issue I am at right now, I need to breakdown this big mkv file ( 21 gb) into 8 gb files. Reason is my computer is too slow to stream that single mkv file when using MEncoder. When i use TsMuxer GUi to split that file into 8gb files. After split the files I open up Mediainfo to check the 8gb files. I noticed that the text stream: PGS is gone. This is why when i play back that file with Meconder subtitle is not there. It seems like TsMuxer is stripping the subtitle. is there another software I could use to split the large mkv file and still keep the subtitle? thanks
tsMuxeR wouldn't strip the PGS subtitle stream unless you instruct it to. The issue might be with Mencoder possibly not supporting .sup (Blu-ray) subtitles... you might need to convert to .srt subs first. I'm not even sure MKV supports .sup subtitles, MakeMKV might be borking the subtitle file up, PGS streams are grahpic (Program Graphic Stream), a series of images... not .srt (text based), I mention this because the MediaInfo description you gave indicates this app think the graphic subs are text subs... just a thought.
So I think the problem is somewhere with Mecoder or MakeMKV, definelty not tsMuxeR.
Either way, subtitles cannot be stream whether they are properly muxed into a single file or not. In order to utilize subs they need to be in either lu-ray, or AVCHD format. I suggest AVCHD format on an external hard drive. Plug that into your PS3 and it will play perfectly, even an untouch blu-ray (main movie only) will play without issues... just instruct tsMuxeR to split at the 4GB mark and it will set everythng up properly, this is how I view my movies.
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Dazz78
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11. November 2009 @ 16:48 |
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thanks odnin24 for the reply. I guess I going to quit trying to get this to work. the weird thing was that I had a mkv file that I download from the net (10gb) and when I ran it with Mencoder I was able to see the subtitle. I could disable or enable it. I then decided to load the file in TsMuxer and convert the file over to .m2ts file and now the sub are gone. I know that i could stream sub if the files are vob (from a dvd) using Mencoder. But like you say maybe its not possible with blu ray. thanks again for the help
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11. November 2009 @ 23:31 |
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Originally posted by Dazz78:
thanks odnin24 for the reply. I guess I going to quit trying to get this to work. the weird thing was that I had a mkv file that I download from the net (10gb) and when I ran it with Mencoder I was able to see the subtitle. I could disable or enable it. I then decided to load the file in TsMuxer and convert the file over to .m2ts file and now the sub are gone. I know that i could stream sub if the files are vob (from a dvd) using Mencoder. But like you say maybe its not possible with blu ray. thanks again for the help
Subtitles streams that are contained in MKV from the net usually are .srt, this is why Mencoder recognized them. Once you run that MKV through tsMuxeR it automatically converts the .srt file into .sup.
Before you run your MKV through Mencoder, which I assume doesn't like .sup file, you will need to first convert the .sup subtitle stream to .srt. Then remux to MKV, then run it though Mencoder.
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Autonomic
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9. February 2010 @ 14:25 |
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Originally posted by odin24:
I have 3 25 foot USB cables connected from my PC to my PS3, total cost was about $6, purchased at monoprice.com... I think. Voila, 24p and HD audio... with subs... custom menus too... plus chapters.
Maybe something to look into, if you have the accomodations.
Hi Odin, thanks a lot for the guide.
Anyway, I'm really interested in doing the same, but what cables exactly have you used? I've been looking around and can't find a clear answer regarding the extension of USB cables.
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9. February 2010 @ 14:36 |
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Originally posted by Autonomic:
Originally posted by odin24:
I have 3 25 foot USB cables connected from my PC to my PS3, total cost was about $6, purchased at monoprice.com... I think. Voila, 24p and HD audio... with subs... custom menus too... plus chapters.
Maybe something to look into, if you have the accomodations.
Hi Odin, thanks a lot for the guide.
Anyway, I'm really interested in doing the same, but what cables exactly have you used? I've been looking around and can't find a clear answer regarding the extension of USB cables.
I use this as a USB extension cord. My external HDD has the USB mini, that goes into the extension, and the extension goes into the PS3.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/produc...&seq=1&format=2
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Autonomic
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9. February 2010 @ 22:31 |
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Ah I see. Do you use several of those cables you linked? or just one? Is it possible to connect it beyond 5m?
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9. February 2010 @ 23:20 |
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Originally posted by Autonomic:
Ah I see. Do you use several of those cables you linked? or just one? Is it possible to connect it beyond 5m?
Back when I first posted about this setup, my PC was approx 5m away from the TV... I had two extensions connected and it worked fine, however my PC is now right next to my TV and all I need is a smaller extension.
So yeah, it should work OK with one or two extensions.
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Autonomic
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10. February 2010 @ 00:12 |
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Ah alright. I need to extend it by about 12m :(
Still, I realise I can purchase 5m USB repeater cables at about $10 each, up to a possible 25m, which looks like the best option.
Thanks for your help.
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10. February 2010 @ 01:47 |
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Originally posted by Autonomic:
Ah alright. I need to extend it by about 12m :(
Still, I realise I can purchase 5m USB repeater cables at about $10 each, up to a possible 25m, which looks like the best option.
Thanks for your help.
I'm sure 12m will be fine.
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10. February 2010 @ 01:51 |
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Originally posted by Autonomic:
Ah alright. I need to extend it by about 12m :(
Still, I realise I can purchase 5m USB repeater cables at about $10 each, up to a possible 25m, which looks like the best option.
Thanks for your help.
I'm sure 12m will be fine. Plus, these cables are good for controller extensions... charge while you play games, or watch movies.
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Autonomic
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11. February 2010 @ 02:11 |
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Hmm.
Would a 3.5" enclosure with ethernet and USB 2.0 work? ie, if I had the drive sitting next to the PS3 and connected via USB, while also connected via ethernet to my PC (12m away. All I'd need to be able to from my PC is rename the folders on the drive.
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11. February 2010 @ 02:29 |
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Originally posted by Autonomic:
Hmm.
Would a 3.5" enclosure with ethernet and USB 2.0 work? ie, if I had the drive sitting next to the PS3 and connected via USB, while also connected via ethernet to my PC (12m away. All I'd need to be able to from my PC is rename the folders on the drive.
Not sure if that would work. The HDD would need to be FAT32 though. Can data be transfered to the HDD via ethernet? BTW, folders aren't neccesary, or it doesn't matter what name they are.
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Autonomic
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11. February 2010 @ 02:53 |
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Originally posted by odin24:
Not sure if that would work. The HDD would need to be FAT32 though. Can data be transfered to the HDD via ethernet? BTW, folders aren't neccesary, or it doesn't matter what name they are.
The drive would be FAT32, no problems with that. I thought the whole point of an enclosure with both ethernet and USB was to be able to access it via both? or am I wrong?
Also with regards to the folder names, I thought the movie that you wanted to play had to be in a folder called AVCHD? Or is there another way?
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11. February 2010 @ 03:55 |
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Originally posted by Autonomic:
The drive would be FAT32, no problems with that. I thought the whole point of an enclosure with both ethernet and USB was to be able to access it via both? or am I wrong?
Also with regards to the folder names, I thought the movie that you wanted to play had to be in a folder called AVCHD? Or is there another way?
OK... I see what you wish to accomplish. I have an external HDD, with network capabilities. The HDD came with software that would "mount" it's image to my PC as if it were a local drive, however was connected through my router via CAT5e network cable. I would then have it connected to my PS3 with the USB.
I don't know if you could get an internal drive, use an enclosure and have a ethernet connection... I just don't know if it's possible.
In regards to the "AVCHD" thing, yes you are correct. In order to to play a movie in the AVCHD structure the BDMV folder needs to be contained in the AVCHD folder on the root of the HDD. The, obvioulsy you need to use AVCHDMe and rename the contents to comply with the 8.3 naming standard.
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Autonomic
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11. February 2010 @ 04:58 |
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I see...I think I may just go with repeater cables and a normal enclosure...it's slightly cheaper and is more or less sure to work.
Anyway, I've also found out that you can actually select and play more than AVCHD video at a time using multiAVCHD - saving the hassle of renaming files to play a different movie. Awesome.
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gr8divide
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28. April 2010 @ 20:44 |
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a little help to those having problems streaming hi- definition disc content to your ps3....1st off: when converting HD audio tracks to .w64 with this newest "eac3to and more gui" the converted hd track will not play when streaming. you need to find an older version of "...and more gui" that has the ability to call pcm2tsmu. this is the ONLY way i have been able to get true lossless audio (DTS HDMA and DD THD) to stream to my ps3. for some reason the .w64 file the newest(?) version of "and more gui" is not compatible with streaming. the pcm2tsmu method I stated earlier absolutely works, and i believe it is detailed at the beginning of this thread.
2nd: i am currently experimenting with hardcode subs using Megui/Avisynth. i have streamed movies that have only occasional english subs scattered throughout the movie, but these seem to have been hardcoded before i do my processing. for movies that are in a completely different language and you need the entire movie subbed, i have read the best way is Megui/ Avisynth hardcoding. i am currently experimenting with this as i write, so i will post/ edit when i get done. hope this helps anyone with the issues i was having.
i have successfully hardcoded subs with the avisynth/Megui method, and it works flawless! just make sure the .sup file ripped from the pgs is in .idx or is converted to that with BDSup2sub (a very simple program to use). again, hope this helps
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dari0
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28. May 2010 @ 14:29 |
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Can someone please help me with my bluray stream to ps3 issue? I have followed all the instructions in the beginning of this post to get LPCM audio. After following the process, I ended up with a .m2ts file. When I streamed it on my ps3 with tversity, I noticed that the video was perfect and the audio description said LPCM. However, I couldn't hear any dialog. I could just hear sound effects. What am i doing wrong? :-(
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