|
|
|
The Official Graphics Card and PC gaming Thread
|
|
|
harvrdguy
Senior Member
|
14. January 2010 @ 21:22 |
Link to this message
|
Yeah guys, Shaff and Sam, I'm going through the DFI manual, and the slot just under where the top crossfire board goes, is the short pci-e 1x slot - which unfortunately is covered by the first board. That's where you guys are saying that the Raid controller could safely go without affecting graphics card bandwidth, if one were crossfiring single-slot-wide graphics cards.
Originally posted by : DFI mobo is not friendly to Raid controller:
That's the one problem we found before with the DFI layout and trying to run crossfire with normal wide dual-slot cards, plus a Raid controller card.
I thought at one time that I did want to run a Raid controller, until, as we discussed it more and more, we ultimately clarified that level load time is more a function of cpu time to uncompress the textures, rather than the speed of the disk drive. That explains why level load time usually shows almost zero improvement from a Raid array versus a single disk drive, in most of the hard drive benchmarks.
However, for Crysis, Sam, you mentioned that they use an interesting method of streaming new textures from the drive as you move through a level - negatively impacting fps - and you said that Crysis would therefore be a good candidate to install to an SSD drive.
So in the picture I posted of eva2000's dual 4870x2 rig on a DFI motherboard, the two slots between the two 4870x2 cards, are first of all, the middle yellow 16x full card slot for tri-sli, and then below that, a short green PCI slot. In his pictures, you can see that the small green pci slot is empty - so yes indeed - he is running the Raid controller in the middle tri-sli 16x slot, thereby reducing his bottom 4870x2 card to 8 lanes of pci-e. The dummy!
PSU POWER CONSUMPTION
Thanks for the clarification about DC and AC power, Sam. I think I understand.
If I follow you, eva2000 is recording an AC draw of 915 watts.
Originally posted by eva2000:
System peak wattage draw = ~915 watts! (probably need a beefier psu ? )
Undoubtedly he is measuring the wattage draw of the AC line in - that's what you are saying, Sam, right? That makes sense - how else would one easily measure the 915 watts?
If I am following you, so far so good.
So let's assume his Corsair is 85% efficient. That means what, exactly? That means that if, for example, the power supply is pulling 1000 AC watts in from the wall outlet, then it is converting that power, at an efficiency of 85% (losing 15% to heat) and supplying 850 watts of DC power to the components in his computer. Do I have that right?
I think I do, and now I see the point you are making. His PSU capacity is 1000 watts, meaning that his PSU can put out 1000 watts of DC output - mostly on the 12 volt rails. To do that, the input line wattage that he would record would be more than that - something like 1150-1200 watts coming in from the wall.
So in this case, where he posted that he noticed that he was pulling 915 watts AC in, (and assuming his Corsair 1000 is roughly 85% efficient) he is putting out, as you said, about 780-800 or so watts worth of DC power, well within his 1000 watts of capacity.
So eva2000 has nothing to worry about - he just needs a lesson from Sam on how all this works, lol.
1200 WATTS FOR DUAL 5970s
So now let's go back to the 5970s and the power that they draw when overclocked.
First of all, you're saying, Sam, that to crank them back up to the 5870 clocks generally doesn't require increasing voltages, so therefore we won't need something like the XFX card's overvolt software tool. Great!
But you are saying that they draw A LOT of power when you do that - more power than if you had two 5870s running side by side.
Okay. In that case - what are the 1200 watt power supplies that we should be looking at for a dual 5970 rig clocked to 5870 speeds?
Rich
|
|
Advertisement
|
 |
|
|
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
14. January 2010 @ 21:36 |
Link to this message
|
Running his RAID card in the 16x slot doesn't necessarily make him a dummy. All high-end RAID controllers will only fit in either PCIe 4x or 16x slots, not 1x slots, simply because 1x wouldn't be enough bandwidth for a high end RAID array. Only small controller or RAID cards (4 drives or less) will typically fit in 1x slots.
You understand efficiency correctly, however, it's best to think of it in reverse, since it is the PC setting the amount of power required, not the mains. A DC requirement of 100W means an a.c. input of 100x the inverse of the efficiency - i.e. at 90%, 111W, at 85% 118W, at 80%, 125W. This highlights the importance of PSU efficiency, and also means you know what you're looking for when calculating the actual power drain on your system.
If PSU efficiency were perfectly linear, you could just say oh, I'm using 500W at a.c., my PSU is 84% efficient, therefore I'm using 420W. The reality isn't like that, the more DC output you have, the more (at low loads) or less (at high loads) efficient the PSU becomes. You need to have some idea of the DC draw, ironically, to be able to work out what the actual DC draw is. Fortunately, other than very tiny loads (<10%), efficiency tends not to vary that much for a given PSU.
The main source of the increased power with the overclock is the voltage increase. Don't use it (and most of the time you don't need it to reach 5870 clocks, only to exceed them) and you keep the TDP relatively reasonable. Clocking the cards up does still increase the heat & power, but not by anywhere near as much. Generally, since HD5970s are pretty efficient overall plus the fact that dual cards rarely run at 100% load on both GPUs unless you run a stress test, you can get away with a lot on an 850W PSU. If you're going for huge numbers on a Core i7, due to their 130W standard TDP versus the 95W of Core i5s and Core 2 Quads, I'd recommend a 1KW unit for quad graphics. However, on an i5, you can still make 4Ghz with an 850 just fine, with room to spare (There'd be room to spare on an 850 with the i7 too, but not very much, running a PSU at 92-95% of its maximum rating on a regular basis isn't something I advise)
Unfortunately the PSU market becomes a bit of a grey area beyond the 1KW 'safe area' where you find the ZM1000-HP and HX1000 as no PSU manufacturer I fully trust produces PSUs any more powerful. All I can really suggest is the Monumentally expensive Enermax Revolution 1250W. They seem to be reasonably reliable, but are incredibly expensive. That said, a lot of dual HD5970 users with i7s probably have money to burn anyway.
|
|
harvrdguy
Senior Member
|
17. January 2010 @ 23:01 |
Link to this message
|
"Dummy" was probably a strong word - but in view of the fact that by running the raid controller on the middle slot, he is dropping the DFI pci-e bandwidth on his 4870x2 down to 8 lanes, I wonder if the Raid controller is really worth it - he's got to be bogged down by the 8-lane pci-e bottleneck, wouldn't you think? (I guess it depends on which game he is playing.)
Thanks for the tip about Enermax Revolution 1250 watt power supplies. I read some reviews - they seem to get top marks for quality.
I'm on the Enermax web site, and I see that the Revolution goes to 1250 watts, only I can't find anybody in the US who sells it. The top-of-the-line Revolution has a max efficiency rating of 91%, while the slightly lower-priced Galaxy version has a top efficiency rating of 89%.
Newegg carries the 1050 watt version of the Revolution, and the 1250 watt slightly less-efficient Galaxy version, both with big $80 rebates, pricing them at or below the Zalman 1000 and the Corsair 1000. What we may be seeing is possibly at attempt by Enermax to clear out inventories to make way for the Revolution 1250 watts, a better choice as you say, than their Revolution 1050, for crossfire with overclocked HD5970s.
The Enermax "Revolution" 1050 watts on Newegg costs $216 after $80 rebate, while the "Galaxy" 1250 watts runs $240 after $80 rebate. The $80 rebate brings down the cost of the Enermax Galaxy 1250 on Newegg to the same price-point of the Zalman 1000, currently priced at $241 with no rebate, and the Corsair 1000, currently priced at $240 after $20 rebate.
As I mentioned, I cannot find the Revolution 1250 anywhere in the US - but I have a feeling that when it shows up, it will be priced, without rebate, in the $320-340 range. Still I wouldn't feel that bad about paying an extra $100 (beyond a $240 corsair or zalman) to pick up the extra 250 watts of safety margin, considering the $1400+ investment in the two HD5970 cards. Would it be worth $100 more than a Galaxy model at the same 1250 wattage? I don't know. In addition to a 2% gain in max efficiency (max 91% vs max 89%) I couldn't see much of a difference - a few extra features that I didn't really understand. But maybe in the long run the extra 2% efficiency would pay for itself in lower electricity costs.
All this just to run crysis at 2560x1600 on gaming day - which by the way I just moved to Saturday - no more middle of the week. I got on Left 4 Dead yesterday, Saturday, early afternoon to test the new replacement Corsair 450 PSU, and I was so impressed with the high-quality level of play of the random Advanced team that I jumped on, that I decided to join the rest of the world on a Saturday day off instead of middle of the week, lol.
By the way - from that team captain I learned a better way to do the Parish bridge finale. Don't go around the tank - go over the tank! The leader of the team had a tag (he said it's now saved somewhere in my Steam folder) that he sprayed on the safe house wall just before the bridge crossing. He explained to the rest of the team his plan.
It showed the first rally point on top of the first gas tanker. Okay, nothing new there. Then the diagram showed a brief rally point in the ammo van - or at least one player triggering the tank by hitting that ammo van.
Then the new interesting idea, was for the team to then move backward, back to the base of the incline (on the opposite side from the tank to avoid being hit by a car) to wait for the tank to show up. Then we all went up and over - the brief retreat resulted in the easiest way up and over the tank that I have ever experienced. It executed beautifully - I even remembered to grab and toss a pipe (there are two of them there) from on top of the jeep at the bridge exit to the helicopter. The whole team made it out without any problem. One guy typed "Piece of cake."
As we chatted during the credits, the guy with the diagram said that his experience with other strategies of going around the tank on the construction rigging usually ended with somebody getting incapped and left behind. I have to agree - it's a little tricky, whereas the up and over was totally painless. Sam do you have any idea of in which 250kb cache file in Steam might be stored that new tag? If I can find it, I'll post it.
Rich
|
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
18. January 2010 @ 08:29 |
Link to this message
|
8 PCIe lanes for a 4870X2 does make a difference. How much of a difference really varies on a per-game basis, it wasn't a huge amount for a lot of the games I play often, but I'm sure there will be some exceptions. However, the important thing to note is that even if it doesn't limit an HD4870X2 too badly, an HD5970 will be worse.
The Enermax Revolution units get good marks for quality (I should bloody well hope so, given their absurd price!) but given the quality of Enermax's other units I wouldn't say top quality. I would still place Corsair above them. What's more important is that while the Revolution units are alright, the Galaxy units were quite poor. Ridiculously loud and prone to premature failure. Be warned. Now this goes for the original Galaxy (850/1000) I don't know if the newer version is any better, but I see the Revolution unit as less of a risk.
|
|
harvrdguy
Senior Member
|
18. January 2010 @ 18:17 |
Link to this message
|
Thanks. I'll note that and look for the "Revolution" 1250 instead of the Galaxy when I finally start buying serious hardware (which probably won't be for at least another 6 months) unless by then Corsair or Zalman have a 1250 watt psu out.
Just out of curiosity, Sam, given the time that it took to move from retail boards based on the RV770 to retail versions of the RV870 (pretty near 18 months wasn't it?) how long would you expect the 5870 RV870 architecture to remain at the top of Ati's gpu offerings before the next leap forward?
|
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
18. January 2010 @ 18:18 |
Link to this message
|
|
It's impossible to say to be honest, the graphics market is too volatile.
|
AfterDawn Addict
7 product reviews
|
18. January 2010 @ 18:26 |
Link to this message
|
Originally posted by sammorris:
It's impossible to say to be honest, the graphics market is too volatile.
LOL! that's putting it mildly ;)
To delete, or not to delete. THAT is the question! |
Senior Member
|
22. January 2010 @ 16:45 |
Link to this message
|
Just dropping in here to say the HD5850 you recommended me is great! A little pricey but so far it is well worth it. The initial drivers were a bit broken but after updating them they seem to work just fine. Crysis on high and I can finally turn shadows on in company of heroes!
Time to get 64 bit and some new RAM. (Secret check my other topic post)
|
AfterDawn Addict
15 product reviews
|
22. January 2010 @ 23:16 |
Link to this message
|
Currently doing the Llama's X-Clamp Replacement fix on a red-ringed 360 my buddy gave me. If this works I am now a 360 owner again :P
EDIT:
HAHA THE RED RING OF DEATH IS VANQUISHED!!!!!!!! I WIN!!!!!! SCREW YOU MICROSOFT!!!!!!!!!!
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 22. January 2010 @ 23:52
|
|
Red_Maw
Senior Member
|
24. January 2010 @ 03:47 |
Link to this message
|
|
Haha nice going Estuansis :)
|
|
ilovetoot
Junior Member
|
24. January 2010 @ 05:15 |
Link to this message
|
hi everyone, i know the topic name is "Official Graphics Card and PC GAMING Thread" but i'm not really asking help about graphics card as a gamer..
I use photoshop, premiere pro, after effects, maya, and similar programs extensively.. and i have some questions:
1. How important is a video card to someone like me?
2. I'm making a very budget build pc, and listed below are my options, please help me in deciding which one would be the best for me and which one would be sufficient enough (i want to save as much as i can):
a. gt 240 1gb ddr3
b. gts 250 green ed 512 mb
c. 9800 gt 512 mb
d. 9800 gt 1gb
e. radeon hd 4770 512mb
f. radeon hd 4670 1gb
im leaning towards the nvidia cards because of cuda and physx..
again, im looking for the best sufficient card for me.. thank you!
... ... ...
|
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
24. January 2010 @ 08:45 |
Link to this message
|
|
As far as power is concerned, nvidia cards are slower and more expensive. For gamers, they're out. Furthermore, PhysX is exclusively a gamers' feature, 3D modelers will see no benefit from it.
Most importantly of all though, graphics cards for workstations are different than the ones used to play games. You should really be looking at QuadroFX cards rather than normal geforces and radeons. FireGLs are the ATI equivalent to QuadroFX cards, but I am unsure how much benefit they give in Maya. Most of the other programs you listed only concern the CPU.
|
AfterDawn Addict
|
24. January 2010 @ 13:25 |
Link to this message
|
|
umm photoshop uses CUDA quite a bit. so id get an nvidia card, a 9800GT preferably. or gts 250
MGR (Micro Gaming Rig) .|. Intel Q6600 @ 3.45GHz .|. Asus P35 P5K-E/WiFi .|. 4GB 1066MHz Geil Black Dragon RAM .|. Samsung F60 SSD .|. Corsair H50-1 Cooler .|. Sapphire 4870 512MB .|. Lian Li PC-A70B .|. Be Queit P7 Dark Power Pro 850W PSU .|. 24" 1920x1200 DGM (MVA Panel) .|. 24" 1920x1080 Dell (TN Panel) .|. |
|
harvrdguy
Senior Member
|
24. January 2010 @ 19:22 |
Link to this message
|
Originally posted by andmill:
Just dropping in here to say the HD5850 you recommended me is great!
wow, somebody (but not me yet) has some money to buy something - way to go guy!
In answer to ilovetoot, Sam and Shaff had this to say:
Originally posted by sam:
You should really be looking at QuadroFX cards rather than normal geforces and radeons.
Originally posted by shaff:
umm photoshop uses CUDA quite a bit. so id get an nvidia card, a 9800GT preferably. or gts 250
Hmmm - he said he was on a budget - aren't those quadrofx cards way up there in price - like $500-1000? No, I'm wrong - I just googled and I see one starting at $170 - the 512mb FX580.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Hey, changing the subject back to video games, what does anybody think of this Left 4 Dead 2 weapons analysis by Urik:
. . . 
A couple of things were interesting to me in seeing this chart:
1. The police stick apparently swings fast (but what about range?)
2. The silenced uzi isn't just an uzi with a silencer but rather a different gun that is MORE powerful than the uzi (per the director's commentary). Before I saw this chart I was starting to get the idea that it had more zombie-killing power than the regular uzi (which didn't make sense to me at the time, because I thought it was simply an uzi with a silencer. The specific part of the director's commentary, right at the Parish chapter 2 gate run near the ladder to the scaffold, where they lay the new weapons on the ground and talk about them, clarified that for me. According to the commentary, it would make sense that troops would be called back from overseas to deal with the zombie threat, and would employ weapons that are being used in places like Iraq and Afghanistan. They pointed out the unique camouflage on the SCAR, which according to the commentary comes from desert combat.)
3. The colt, according to this chart, fires faster than uzi, at almost 17 rounds per second using about 2 seconds reload time. I am not sure that I agree with this - since seeing the chart I have casually clocked it, and while it DOES seem to fire faster than I am used to an AR firing, I have a hard time believing it fires that fast. Having done some official time studies a while back in regard to the original game, certainly I know that the original Left 4 Dead M16 did not fire faster than an uzi - the comparison was about 16 rounds per second for uzi to 12 rounds per second for assault rifle.
But let me ask you guys - have they speeded up the M16 fire rate for the sequel?
I talked before with Miles about that kind of thing, when I mentioned to him my observation that the Counter Strike bullpup, a gun he also likes, fires slightly slower in zoom mode. I asked him, laughing, how does the gun know when you are looking through the 2x scope? That's when he explained that they DO tinker with things like accuracy, fire rate, and impact power, in order to spread out gun capabilities.
4. I did a whole analysis of relative bullet impact from the above chart, but I'll save that for another post - it's in an email I sent to Miles, the valve artist, after he shared the chart with me.
(Some of the conclusions were that, as you can see if you believe the chart, AK hits about 70% harder than M16, whereas SCAR hits about 100% harder than M16, but has an overall slow-as-sin fire rate down to about 6 rounds per second, as it automatically staggers the bursts. While I tend to pick up AK most of the time, I'm forcing myself to pick up SCAR more and more to really get a good feel for what it offers. I am concluding that it's quite a good gun, although I sincerely hate the the one-second longer reload time that SCAR has versus AK or AR. I wouldn't carry it for parish bridge rush for that reason, for example. But, as I found out the other night shooting specials from the high entrance corner of the stadium, versus AK - which non-crouched has lousy accuracy, and versus M16 - which non-crouched has better but not outstanding accuracy, good old SCAR - non-crouched - full standing up, trying to shoot over my teammates' heads, has amazing specials-killing accuracy.)
Rich
|
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
24. January 2010 @ 19:33 |
Link to this message
|
I've seen that Left 4 Dead tank damage chart before. I thought it was here, but perhaps not. My preferred approach is fire in the hole, followed by one of my preferred heavy weapons, Combat Shotgun / Auto sniper, AK if necessary. If we're on good health and it's Versus and we're feeling lulzy, we might all close in with melee weapons.
The fire rate of uzi vs colt is non-sensical, the L4D2 Uzi fire rate is substantially increased from the old version with the ammo capacity upped, so although it lasts the same duration overall, you have to reload more often. On the fire rate I know of the colt, I would place 250 rounds fired as about 21 seconds, putting the reloads at 1500ms each. Seems reasonable, it reloads fast.
The uzi takes a bit longer to reload if I remember rightly, and using the figures given, the fire rate does seem to work out increased. Whether it's enough of an increase I'm not sure, but I imagine this is taken from game code, not from casual time assessment, so I doubt it's wrong.
Miles is correct with the zoom fire rate on not just the Aug, but also the SG552 in CS:S.
|
AfterDawn Addict
|
28. January 2010 @ 19:18 |
Link to this message
|
|
well i currently have a 3.6GHz E5200 so i assume i wont need to upgrade to i3/i5 yet, and with battlefeild coming out soon, from my 4870 512MB (at 1920x1200) what would be my best upgrade? i really cant see much point in jumping to 4890, as its only a few percent upgrade, and the 5850 are way over priced.
anything inbetween? or should i get a second hand 4870 and CF it?
how much will the 5830 be? any indication on performance?
MGR (Micro Gaming Rig) .|. Intel Q6600 @ 3.45GHz .|. Asus P35 P5K-E/WiFi .|. 4GB 1066MHz Geil Black Dragon RAM .|. Samsung F60 SSD .|. Corsair H50-1 Cooler .|. Sapphire 4870 512MB .|. Lian Li PC-A70B .|. Be Queit P7 Dark Power Pro 850W PSU .|. 24" 1920x1200 DGM (MVA Panel) .|. 24" 1920x1080 Dell (TN Panel) .|.
|
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
28. January 2010 @ 19:27 |
Link to this message
|
|
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
30. January 2010 @ 14:45 |
Link to this message
|
The new Battlefield: Bad Company 2 Beta has been benchmarked, and it's a monster!
Looks like we have finally hit the era where mainstream multiplayer games will bring PCs to their knees in the same way as Crysis did for the single player market.
I wasn't going to do anywhere near as many categories as this, but seeing just how badly lots of very common graphics cards are that are still for sale, let alone older ones fare, I decided to go all the way to rock bottom (and also as another way of highlighting just how abysmal the G210 is - see if you can find it in this chart, it's in there somewhere!)
These are just the minimums. Will add the averages later if more boredom strikes.
Battlefield: Bad Company 2 Beta Performance - Graphical Requirements (Threshold scale)
Test Notes: 8x AA applied, DirectX10 mode, Maximum Detail, only single GPUs tested
Data Source: GameGPU.Ru
Minimum 40fps:
1024x768: HD5850
1280x1024: HD5870
Minimum 30fps:
1024x768: GTX260-216 or HD4890/HD5830
1280x1024: GTX275 (not GTX280) or HD5850 (HD5830, speculative)
1680x1050: HD5870
1920x1080: HD5890 (speculative)
Minimum 25fps:
1024x768: GTX260 or HD4870/HD5830
1280x1024: GTX260-216 or HD4890/HD5830
1680x1050: GTX275 (not GTX280) or HD5850 (HD5830, speculative)
1920x1080: HD5850
Minimum 20fps:
1024x768: GTS250/8800GTS G92 or HD5750/HD4850/HD4770
1280x1024: GTX260 or HD5770/HD4870
1680x1050: GTX270-216 or HD4890/HD5830
1920x1080: GTX280/GTX275 or HD5850 (HD5830, speculative)
Minimum 15fps:
1024x768: GT240/9800GT/8800GT or HD5750/HD4830/HD4750
1280x1024: GTS250/9800GT/8800GTS G92 or HD5750/HD4850/HD4770
1680x1050: GTS250/9800GTX or HD5770/HD4850/HD4770
1920x1080: GTX260 or HD4870/HD5830
Minimum 12fps:
1024x768: GT240/9600GT/8800GT or HD5750/HD4830/HD4750/HD3870
1280x1024: GT240/9800GT/8800GT or HD5750/HD4830/HD4750
1680x1050: GTS250/9800GT/8800GT or HD5750/HD4850/HD4750
1920x1080: GTS250/9800GTX/8800GTS G92 or HD5750/HD4850/HD4770
Minimum 10fps:
1024x768: GT240/9600GSO+/8800GS or HD5670/HD4830/HD4750/HD3850
1280x1024: GT240/9600GT/8800GT or HD5750/HD4830/HD4750/HD3870
1680x1050: GT240/9800GT/8800GT or HD5750/HD4830/HD4750/HD3870
1920x1080: GTS250/9800GT/8800GT or HD5750/HD4830/HD4750
[Minimum 8fps:
1024x768: GT220/9600GSO+/8800GS or HD5670/HD4670/HD3850/HD2900XT
1280x1024: GT240/9600GSO+/8800GS or HD5670/HD4830/HD4750/HD3850
1680x1050: GT240/9600GSO+/8800GS or HD5750/HD4830/HD4650/HD3850
1920x1080: GT240/9600GT/8800GT or HD5750/HD4830/HD4750/HD3870
Minimum 5fps:
1024x768: GT220/9500GT/8600GTS or HD5670/HD4650/HD3690/HD2900 Pro
1280x1024: GT220/9500GT/8600GTS or HD5670/HD4650/HD3690/HD2900 pro
1680x1050: GT220/9600GSO/8800GS or HD5670/HD4670/HD3850/HD2900 Pro
1920x1080: GT220/9600GSO+/8800GS or HD5670/HD4670/HD3850/HD2900 Pro
Minimum 3fps:
1024x768: GT220/9500GT/8600GT or HD4550/HD3650/HD2600XT
1280x1024: GT220/9500GT/8600GT or HD4550/HD3650/HD2900 Pro
1680x1050: GT220/9500GT/8600GT or HD4650/HD3650/HD2900 Pro
1920x1080: GT220/9500GT/8600GT or HD4650/HD3690/HD2900 Pro
Minimum 2fps:
1024x768: GT220/9400GT/8500GT or HD4450/HD3470/HD2600XT
1280x1024: GT220/9500GT/8600GT or HD4450/HD3470/HD2600XT
1680x1050: GT220/9500GT/8600GT or HD4450/HD3470/HD2600XT
1920x1080: GT220/9500GT/8600GT or HD4470/HD3650/HD2600XT
Minimum 1fps:
1024x768: G210/9400GT/8400GS or HD4450/HD3470/HD2600 Pro/HD2400XT
1280x1024: GT220/9400GT/8500GT or HD4450/HD3470/HD2600 Pro/HD2400XT
1680x1050: GT220/9400GT/8500GT or HD4450/HD3470/HD2600XT/HD2400XT
1920x1080: GT220/9500GT/8600GT or HD4450/HD3470/HD2600XT
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 30. January 2010 @ 14:47
|
AfterDawn Addict
7 product reviews
|
30. January 2010 @ 15:20 |
Link to this message
|
People sure like war, don't they LOL! Well...as long as it's all in good fun, and only for entertainment purposes ;)
Seriously though, I could be into that game. Probably gonna have a 50$ price tag at release at least! I may wait til it's more affordable. Besides, according to sam's post, I won't be able to run it the way it's meant to be played anyway LOL! Perhaps my next board, with 2 GPU's in Crossfire, and Phenom II OC'd to 3.8+ will be up to the challenge ;)
To delete, or not to delete. THAT is the question! |
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
30. January 2010 @ 15:25 |
Link to this message
|
|
There is no sign of a CPU limit in the test even at 1024x768 where the HD5870 pulls an average of 66fps and a minimum of 47fps. Of course, this is with a 4Ghz Q9650, so I can't say for certain where the CPU limit may be. Suffice to say a stock 955BE isn't going to be any lower than 30 minimum and 45 average, probably higher.
|
AfterDawn Addict
7 product reviews
|
30. January 2010 @ 15:26 |
Link to this message
|
To delete, or not to delete. THAT is the question! This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 30. January 2010 @ 15:28
|
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
30. January 2010 @ 15:30 |
Link to this message
|
Sadly, this site doesn't test dual graphics, so we will have to wait until a release benchmark from one of the typical sites to say how well crossfire performs. However, it's pretty apparent that dual graphics are going to need to be active and working for the game to run smoothly, at any resolution. Assuming 80% crossfire scaling (highly unlikely at first, but possible after a driver patch), you would need two HD5850s or an HD5890 to get nice smooth gameplay at 1680x1050, or acceptably smooth gameplay at 1920x1080. To get absolutely fluid gameplay (minimum of 60fps) it's going to be a pair of HD5870s just for 1680x1050, three for 1920x1080, and as for 2560x1600, probably four HD5890s, when they come out, unless you clock the bals off a pair of HD5970s. The game is insane.
|
AfterDawn Addict
|
30. January 2010 @ 15:46 |
Link to this message
|
|
i seriously want to cry
MGR (Micro Gaming Rig) .|. Intel Q6600 @ 3.45GHz .|. Asus P35 P5K-E/WiFi .|. 4GB 1066MHz Geil Black Dragon RAM .|. Samsung F60 SSD .|. Corsair H50-1 Cooler .|. Sapphire 4870 512MB .|. Lian Li PC-A70B .|. Be Queit P7 Dark Power Pro 850W PSU .|. 24" 1920x1200 DGM (MVA Panel) .|. 24" 1920x1080 Dell (TN Panel) .|.
|
AfterDawn Addict
15 product reviews
|
30. January 2010 @ 21:07 |
Link to this message
|
Yes but if the graphics warrant the hardware this is our new Crysis :P
I, for one, am a Battlefield freak so this is awesome for me. I probably won't run it maxed but I bet I can find a happy medium for now :P
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388
|
|
Advertisement
|
|
|
|
Red_Maw
Senior Member
|
30. January 2010 @ 22:09 |
Link to this message
|
Wow that's crazy, did not expect to see those numbers. I was planning on playing that game too lol. According to that site I can't play Mass Effect 2 either (at high settings) :(
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 31. January 2010 @ 16:42
|
|
