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7. January 2008 @ 12:35 |
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Well, all three of the last three orders from them have either come up "Delivery cancelled" on the courier page, or arrived with half the stuff missing and their excuse is "oh, well the courier obviously didn't pick it up". So nobody thought to check and tell me?
Very few tech stores in the UK are good for customer service unfortunately. The only one that seems to get everything right is Aria. Specialtech have done well so far, but I haven't had to return anything to them, and that's the only reason why Scan, Dabs and MicroDirect. The goods usually arrive fine, but try to return anything to the latter two of those and they'll tell you to **** off. In one case, literally.
I still use Scan and ebuyer because when the deliveries are late, it's usually not often, not more than one day, and they tell me. OcUK will quite happily spend an entire week not delivering something, and you have to work out who's to blame, the shop or the courier? Neither will admit anything. In the end it's usually the shop.
RMA Cheap? RMAs should be free, that's the whole point!
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7. January 2008 @ 12:37 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Yes but why bother when the 520 is fine? There's no reason to buy the 620 unless you will use more than 500W, which you won't. It's not like it offers any other features.
i agree 100%, but i was just cheaking, and if you had a choice of hx520 or 620 within £5 of each other, i'd know what i'd go for.
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7. January 2008 @ 12:38 |
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Sure thing. I'd not buy the 520W at that price, because it's up to £20 cheaper elsewhere. I'd consider buying the 620 for cheap and ebaying it, but overclockers' delivery is so incredibly expensive I wouldn't make any profit unless I charged an absolute fortune for postage.
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7. January 2008 @ 12:42 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Well, all three of the last three orders from them have either come up "Delivery cancelled" on the courier page, or arrived with half the stuff missing and their excuse is "oh, well the courier obviously didn't pick it up". So nobody thought to check and tell me?
Very few tech stores in the UK are good for customer service unfortunately. The only one that seems to get everything right is Aria. Specialtech have done well so far, but I haven't had to return anything to them, and that's the only reason why Scan, Dabs and MicroDirect. The goods usually arrive fine, but try to return anything to the latter two of those and they'll tell you to **** off. In one case, literally.
I still use Scan and ebuyer because when the deliveries are late, it's usually not often, not more than one day, and they tell me. OcUK will quite happily spend an entire week not delivering something, and you have to work out who's to blame, the shop or the courier? Neither will admit anything. In the end it's usually the shop.
RMA Cheap? RMAs should be free, that's the whole point!
right, well maybe you had problems in the past, but for the lest year, its been Aokay with me, and i have had alot of deliveries.
also i meant RAM, not RMA :P my mistake hehe.
i have had problem with calling scan manytimes, and they seemed rude on thier emails, thats why i chose OCuk over them.
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7. January 2008 @ 12:45 |
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Agreed, Scan's CS isn't that great either, but the deliveries have always been quite prompt. All of the problems I've had with OcUK have been in the past year. Before that their service was good and I used them regularly. It seems to me that the company's sales have expanded and the staff can't cope. Ever noticed that there are only two guys manning the tech lines?
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7. January 2008 @ 12:58 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Agreed, Scan's CS isn't that great either, but the deliveries have always been quite prompt. All of the problems I've had with OcUK have been in the past year. Before that their service was good and I used them regularly. It seems to me that the company's sales have expanded and the staff can't cope. Ever noticed that there are only two guys manning the tech lines?
yeah i have to agree with that, they are alwyas busy via phone, or they dont pick up. and emails are always from two people...hehe
but maybe they have specific employeys for email/phone and more for the warehouse
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7. January 2008 @ 13:19 |
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Perhaps, but it wouldn't surprise me if the warehouse is similarly short-staffed, especially since they don't notice when something goes out of stock until the end of the day. If you happen to order after something's sold out but before the stock check's made, tough luck, you'll be waiting for your order for a while. In the age of computerised stock monitoring, that's an absolute joke, especially for a site that sells PC parts.
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7. January 2008 @ 13:20 |
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that does me nicely :o) only used aria over scan due to scan not doing the nzxt hush case, as for overclockers lol rip off merchants.
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7. January 2008 @ 13:36 |
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i had to chose the closest price mobo they had just so you could see the comparison.
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7. January 2008 @ 15:12 |
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Heh, £62 more and with a worse motherboard. Aria it is!
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7. January 2008 @ 15:20 |
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wow. never looked at aria before. looks like i shall be moving to them :D, but still charging the same prices to my clients ;D
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7. January 2008 @ 15:32 |
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Hehe, you sly devil you. Aria actually built my main gaming PC. Of course I've modified it numerous times, but they did a pretty good job.
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7. January 2008 @ 18:31 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Hehe, you sly devil you. Aria actually built my main gaming PC. Of course I've modified it numerous times, but they did a pretty good job.
why'd you let them build?
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7. January 2008 @ 19:55 |
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I think his parents didn't trust him to build his own.
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7. January 2008 @ 20:07 |
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Indeed, this was only 9 months after the fire caused by a cheap PSU in my last PC. Of course I knew better by then, but how do you convince parents that?
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7. January 2008 @ 22:02 |
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I know what you mean sam. My parents didn't trust me with my own money at first. Didn't think I could do it at all.
I showed them :D
As to budget builds... I would take the 5200+ over the 5000+. Even with the 5000+ being unlocked. You'd be hard-pressed to find an AM2 processor with the 2 x 1MB L2 cache. It's a good opportunity to get one while they're still available.
I'm seeing a $10 difference over at newegg.com. Surely, it's similar on UK sites? It would be worth it to me.
Also, if the price difference on the Corsair 520W vs the 620W is so small, get the 620W. Good future investment as that PSU will still be awesome in three years. That is unless the industry pulls a flip from the current path(less power consumption). At which point you'll be in a position to deal with it.
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8. January 2008 @ 03:33 |
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5000 x2 is 65 nm and f3 / g2, it has very low power consumption even when overclocked to 3.1ghz with no vcore boost it will only use 75w, and at that speed its only 2.5% slower than an e6550 and 2.8% slower than the 6000.
as I want my pc to be pretty silent from the start chosing this processor will give me this as less heat = less rpm on the cooler, it clocks to 3.1 with no worries even with a standard amd cooler put on it it can oc to 3.2 with no worries, and with a high end cooler 3.5ghz is obtainable. as it also was a budget build that the mobo / processor might only be used for 6 - 8 months before moving the other components to a new mobo/ processor combination i think it will suffice and it wont break the bank either :)Ok well it wont break the bank unless i buy it from Overclockers :oP
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8. January 2008 @ 06:37 |
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Estuansis: We're now using a better store, if you read up. The 520W is far less than the 620W from there (and indeed from every store other than overclockers). As for the CPU, If you're going to spend any more money, you may as well go with a Core 2 Build. Above the 5000+ region, AMDs lose their cost-effectiveness. With regard to power consumption, it can only really go down from here. If it went up, there'd be uproar because of the environmental concerns.
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8. January 2008 @ 12:14 |
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lol beaten the price again :o)
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8. January 2008 @ 12:36 |
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Pff, I'd go with that Gigabyte board over that Asus any day.
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8. January 2008 @ 18:31 |
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fanboy :P
but will either of those boards OC?
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8. January 2008 @ 18:35 |
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Says he to the man who's owned three Asus boards and just one Gigabyte.
Also, the gigabyte has 4 RAM Slots not 2, and an extra PCI slot.
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8. January 2008 @ 18:42 |
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A Gigabyte would be better for an OC. I have used both Gigabyte and Asus. Asus boards are nice, but the BIOS only allows certain voltages and are notorious for "failed overclock" messages on what is actually an extremely stable OC(Orthos tested, 65Hrs).
Gigabyte boards seem to have more robust overclocking features(to me anyway). They are very stable and dependable. I would recommend them over ASUS, if only for the features.
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8. January 2008 @ 19:08 |
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ah but i would only use the multi to o/c so no strain on the board and as it is i only use 1 pc1 slot for my delta 66 so i can output through my power amp and monitor speakers :o)
the mobo / cpu are simply a stop gap until later in the year when we have seen more of amd's cards on the table then ill choose the route to go :o)
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8. January 2008 @ 19:27 |
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Hmm, well in that case they're about equal. Personally though, I'd stick with Aria. I've ordered around 15 times each from OcUK and Aria, I've never had a problem with Aria, and I've had 4 problematic orders from ocUK, some very serious, taking up to a month to arrive and all the goods being damaged from being thrown in a van dozens of times (they kept giving the address wrong)
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