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8. January 2008 @ 19:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
cheapest one is eclipse computers, havent had any problem with them, they have some pretty good award winning full systems for a few quid more than im spending, but , i dont want nvidia graphics so building my own, not sure if ill stick with xppro or get vista for the system and 4 gig ram . COD4 has improved gameplay in vista or so my mate recons, ill see i guess, i have a nice student edition of vista that doesnt need activation ;o)
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8. January 2008 @ 19:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I haven't used Eclipse but my housemate Paul has. The service from them was so appalling neither of us will ever be ordering from them again. No item, phone lines don't answer, emails take a week to respond and were thoroughly unhelpful. Why were we contacting them? They sent us the wrong item...
Aria have once sent Paul a wrong item as well, but he got hold of them instantly on the phone and they sent another one out to him which arrived in 2 days.



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8. January 2008 @ 19:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I used them a i think about 10 times last year without problem, they are better than they have been in the past, I think companys tend to sort things out nowadays, as a few slatings on well chosen forums can cost them trade :) overclockers are the most tedious company i have ever had to deal with, and dolphin music in liverpool, their customer service is crap, but theyre one of the biggest pro music suppliers in the uk, and i think its gone to their heads lol.
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Parts are all ordered went with aria as they had a few other bits I slapped on for a mate, so fingers crossed should turn up saturday, so maybe by sunday should have it all running all hunky dory silentish unsure how loud the 3870 will be but i dare say the soundproofing in the case should knock a hell of a lot of the noise out.

Will run some benchies at stock 2.6ghz,2.8ghz,3ghz & 3.2ghz
to see how the graphics scales with cpu speed.
I expect the benchies will be around tuesday / wednesday time. now i just have to decide on which os to install as you can unlock alot of the dx10 on xp by editing files in games, not looking forward to a vista future lol :o)
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11. January 2008 @ 02:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The 3870 is not a noisy graphics card, unlike the 8800GT. That won't be the problem.
You paid for saturday delivery? Good show, that costs an absolute fortune, but it's what I did for my PC though...



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11. January 2008 @ 03:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yeh Well i got the price down by a few pound as the processors are on superspecial now , so i thought I would spend the savings, just glad the xp pro genuine advantage disc, is ok for activation on a new pc, glad they didnt sell me some oem licence with it :o)

Out on the razzle on saturday night and will probably wake up next to some strange girl sunday , so I might not even get to start the build til monday lol, but at least I will have the parts sat their waiting :o)

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Originally posted by sammorris:
I haven't used Eclipse but my housemate Paul has. The service from them was so appalling neither of us will ever be ordering from them again. No item, phone lines don't answer, emails take a week to respond and were thoroughly unhelpful. Why were we contacting them? They sent us the wrong item...
Aria have once sent Paul a wrong item as well, but he got hold of them instantly on the phone and they sent another one out to him which arrived in 2 days.
just remember experiences are not fact. like my crap with scan has been horrible, but they have been nothing but superb for other people, and OcUK have been crap for you, but for me flawless.



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To be pedantic, experiences are fact, but represent a small minority. I don't know anyone who's had a majorly bad experience with Aria or Specialtech.



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11. January 2008 @ 12:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ebuyer used to be total muppets to deal with, lots of bad reports about them, but now theyre one of the easiest companys to deal with,

but hey were moaning about generaly good companys. lol just as well its not pc world :o)))
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14. January 2008 @ 06:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I used Eclipse computers a couple of times. And the suck, dont respond to emails for about two weeks no answer on phone lines, items (both times) damaged, there actual lines are pretty crap aswell as their systems. The only time i got through to them was when they phoned me asking about my payment ha!

In other new :)

I recently brought a new system from Ebuyer, top company, spent about £1000 plus with them now, never any problems, i even added up all the components i brought with them on other companies and it was £50+ cheaper :)
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14. January 2008 @ 07:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ebuyer are prone for having stuff arrive one or two days late, but apart from that they're not bad, they're very cheap (usually they're only beaten often by Scan), while they're website's not great it's liveable, and their tech support do actually answer calls... eventually!



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18. January 2008 @ 14:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey guys i have noticed that most of crossfire/Sli mobo have 1x PCI-E x16 and 1 x PCI-E x4? why won't that be slower compared to 2x PCI-E x16? I just wanted to know

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18. January 2008 @ 14:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It will indeed. The top end SLi boards have a double bandwidth chipset so they can run 16x and 16x together. A lot of boards will typically have 16x but share it between the slots (16x if you use one, 8x for each if you're using both). It's another of the downsides to dual graphics.



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18. January 2008 @ 15:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
so there is a difference, that sucks then why bother having dual gpu, since it won't be running a full speed...don't get it, but if having high end pc then it's quite good like this one:

http://www.sybaritic.co.za/store/product...oducts_id=14505

how much do you guys give for this board? I give it 8.5/10

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18. January 2008 @ 15:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
btu if your going dual GPu, you'd obviously have a high end mobo, aka x38, for xfire. which has two 16x lanes



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18. January 2008 @ 16:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
gtr:
get this if you want dual graphics...
http://www.sybaritic.co.za/store/product...oducts_id=13555



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18. January 2008 @ 16:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah but one slot is 4x.
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18. January 2008 @ 16:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
From what I hear though that doesn't really seem to make much difference...



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18. January 2008 @ 17:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Dude I asked you the same freakin thing you said that it will screw up crossfire.
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18. January 2008 @ 17:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah well my bad on that one, I've just done some reading on it, can't find any major complaints.



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18. January 2008 @ 17:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well that's good so I don't need to get a X38 chipset board now. That should have me about 70 bucks lol.
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18. January 2008 @ 17:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just looked it up and the conclusion is DON'T USE THE 4X PCI-E SLOT!

Originally posted by Toms Hardware:

Putting current graphics cards in a PCI-Express x4 slot basically verges on madness and incurs a performance hit of between 25 and 33 percent. Even if the motherboard in question were especially cheap, the card?s price/performance ratio is affected immensely. When using an x8 connection, performance also decreases, albeit only by 7 to 8 percent.

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Hmm, maybe this affects newer graphics cards. The X1900XT takes a 25% performance hit in a 2x slot, and a 5% hit in a 4x slot. I suppose the amount of bandwidth used really has gone up in the new generation.



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18. January 2008 @ 19:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
As cards get more powerful they also use more bandwidth. That's why PCI-E 2 was needed. Sure no cars use all 16x of bandwidth but we're getting there.
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18. January 2008 @ 20:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Of course, in a BUDGET PC thread, Crossfire/SLI should be academic anyway.



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