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14. February 2008 @ 17:56 |
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That's very poor, it has to be said. I can't help but think that, much like the R600 architecture from ATi, the Phenoms are at the absolute limit of their technology as they are stock. AMD really do need to pull their fingers out or it's game over.
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14. February 2008 @ 17:56 |
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Only 2.7? Damn. I guess we need to wait until the new core revision comes out and fixes all the problems.
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14. February 2008 @ 17:58 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
wait until the new core revision comes out and fixes all the problems.
Wishful thinking, methinks?
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14. February 2008 @ 18:01 |
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Wishful thinking, methinks?
Should I be ashamed? lol
I really hope AMD can make something out of this processor. It's a decent CPU, but it has too many issues that need fixing.
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14. February 2008 @ 18:05 |
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Well we should all hope AMD can fix things. It gives Intel competition, and Intel shines with Competition. Remember what happened when Intel DIDN'T have much competition? P4 comes to mind. Of course then AMD started kicking the P4's ass and then Core 2 came along. See what happens with competition?
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14. February 2008 @ 18:05 |
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Well that's the thing, the Phenom is a decent CPU, but compared to the absolute streaks Intel have been having lately, it pales by comparison.
My next CPU is likely to be along the lines of a Q9450, but only when they're somewhat cheaper than they are now.
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14. February 2008 @ 18:07 |
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316 isn't all That expensive. I'm sure you can handle it. Don't you have a Job?
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14. February 2008 @ 18:09 |
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Nope, and I have to pay course fees. I stil haven't sold my spare 3870 yet, and besides, I really have no need for such a CPU yet, which is my main reason for holding off, I'd hardly notice the difference. Besides, the Q9450 is the equivalent of $450 over here...
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15. February 2008 @ 00:17 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Nope, and I have to pay course fees. I stil haven't sold my spare 3870 yet, and besides, I really have no need for such a CPU yet, which is my main reason for holding off, I'd hardly notice the difference. Besides, the Q9450 is the equivalent of $450 over here...
lol Q9450 is about $600 = R4600 nearly double the price of Q9300, just because it had 6MB more cache, and what you said is true i don't need that cpu now, my E2160 can do all the work that high end cpu can do, for a dual core.
I hope the new B3 stepping will fix some problems to the CPU, and i hope 9950 will be faster and better
BTW i can get
-Corsair TX750
-Corsair HX520
-Corsair HX620
-Corsair VX450
which one should i get, remember i might CF and OC my cpu
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15. February 2008 @ 09:19 |
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The HX620 will do fine.
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15. February 2008 @ 09:21 |
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Agreed. The HX620 is your "all bases covered" power supply.
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15. February 2008 @ 09:31 |
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awesome, I definitly getting that PSU! it's from that Landmark Computer site. But it doesn't have 8-pin connector
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15. February 2008 @ 09:42 |
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Not for PCIe it doesn't, but why is that important?
Hold on a moment though, can't you just use these?
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15. February 2008 @ 09:51 |
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LOL! 8-pin is for GPU like HD3870 X2, it uses 6 and 8pin connector.
is Q9450 out yet?
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15. February 2008 @ 09:53 |
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I know that, but I assumed you weren't using an HD3870X2.
In any case, can you use the 8-pin connector bound to the CPU? I'll have to do some reading on that one.
By the way, IIRC the 3870X2 only needs two sixes to run normally, you only need the 8-pin if you're overclocking it, I THINK.
Oh, and in case you didn't know, the two connectors I posted the image of are found on the 620W HX.
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15. February 2008 @ 10:11 |
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i hope what you said are true.
Oh when you OC the cpu the ram speed will increase too, so what happens if your ram have a limit when oc, does that mean you can only OC you cpu to a certain point.
oh and i dont get the time thing of the ram, is higher better or lower?
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15. February 2008 @ 10:36 |
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Originally posted by GTR35:
i hope what you said are true.
Oh when you OC the cpu the ram speed will increase too, so what happens if your ram have a limit when oc, does that mean you can only OC you cpu to a certain point.
oh and i dont get the time thing of the ram, is higher better or lower?
yes you may hit a limit, but if you get 1066 aka 533MHz ram, you wont havea problem, although 400Mhz ram is fine, it MAY OC to 8500, but you dont want to take the chance with stability, and the timimngs will have to increase.
lower timing are better, but witht he x2s from amd, this made alot of difference, on t he c2d, higher latencies dont translate to real life performance, only benchies.
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15. February 2008 @ 11:10 |
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Gigabyte boards use memory multipliers which you can drop so you can keep the memory speed low even with an overclocked CPU.
2T/1T timing isn't worth considering with core 2s I heard, but the timings on the RAM itself you want as low as possible (e.g. 4-4-4-12 is better than 5-5-5-18)
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15. February 2008 @ 11:32 |
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oh so lower timing is better, and having a 1066mhz ram will have more OCing room than 800mhz? and yeah i've notices gigabyte does come with ram multipliers
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15. February 2008 @ 12:10 |
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Yeah, specificlly Crucial Ballistix PC8500 CAS5 for the highest overclocks.
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15. February 2008 @ 12:21 |
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15. February 2008 @ 12:22 |
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Gigabyte boards are the best for inexperienced overclockers. The RAM speed can be adjusted independent of CPU speed after you OC.
Say you get cheap RAM. Turn your RAM speed down and then turn up your FSB. Then you can run your processor on an OC but have your RAM at stock speeds. Not as fast an OC but I prefer it to keep my timings.
I've had my RAM to DDR2 945 and kept my timings, but my RAM was expensive and uses Micron D9 memory chips(which are the very best).
So with the right motherboard, you can OC with even super cheap RAM.
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15. February 2008 @ 12:24 |
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Not necessarily. The 9000 series is a new architecture, it might not turn out to overclock as well as the old one. Bear in mind the later duos overclocked more than the originals, we may just need to give the platform time.
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15. February 2008 @ 12:30 |
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Yeah, specificlly Crucial Ballistix PC8500 CAS5 for the highest overclocks.
Yeah, best for a high OC. But how far past stock speeds can it be pushed? Is your RAM speed limit your OC limit for the higher speed memory?
I suppose both Gigabyte boards I've used never even had this problem due to the ability to adjust RAM speed independently.
GA-965P-DS3
GA-P35-DS3L
They're both essentially the same motherboard with different chipsets. I have yet to notice a difference. Even the connector layout is nearly identical.
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15. February 2008 @ 12:33 |
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yeah we do need to give them time, and LONG time.
so ram doesn't matter THAT much when it comes to OC, all you need to do is lower the multiplier and you're good to go
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