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CPU, GPU and Power supply are overheated. A Chicago man sues MS for this reason... Closed !!!
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roadkille
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5. December 2005 @ 12:04 |
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oofRome
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5. December 2005 @ 15:46 |
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That's really bad publicity for Microsoft.
That sucks.
For however much I dislike Microsoft, I'm not exactly happy about this situation. Is a lawsuit completely necessary?
I think that this guy's just a huge crybaby.
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laxplayer
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5. December 2005 @ 16:03 |
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yah. He should have just filed a compliant with MS, and asked for a replacement xbox 360. but a lawsuit? thats ridiculus.
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modster
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5. December 2005 @ 16:41 |
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sure little people like you and I are usually ignored by the big giant Microsoft. File a complaint with MS... well all that will get you is your complaint will be filed among hundreds and hundreds of others.... MS will get to your complaint whenever they get to it.
So, the only way is to file a lawsuit, then by law, MS will respond in a timely manner.
Pick up a law book once in a while, and you will be amazed how much little people like you and I do have a loud voice.
cheers
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dr.cool
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5. December 2005 @ 17:01 |
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i feal bad for ms cause the overheating problem is blown way out of proporsion less than %3 had an error
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oofRome
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5. December 2005 @ 17:17 |
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sure little people like you and I are usually ignored by the big giant Microsoft. File a complaint with MS... well all that will get you is your complaint will be filed among hundreds and hundreds of others.... MS will get to your complaint whenever they get to it.
So, the only way is to file a lawsuit, then by law, MS will respond in a timely manner.
Pick up a law book once in a while, and you will be amazed how much little people like you and I do have a loud voice.
cheers
If I can recall correctly, I havn't heard of people not getting responses from Microsoft regarding defects.
I'll pick up a law book and you can pick up a piece of paper that defines a "warranty".
And yes, I am well aware of what lawsuits can do. It's not always a happy ending, either.
They make companies put "caution: contents may be hot" warnings on things baking in extremely hot temperatures for extended periods of time. They drive up the cost of liability and healthcare insurance for doctors and patients to rediculous amounts. They give a woman millions of dollars because she spilled coffee on herself while driving with the cup inbetween her legs.
This is a clear-cut example of another unnecessary lawsuit.
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roadkille
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6. December 2005 @ 08:28 |
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Is there any way to return my xbox 360 and get money back?
This early version of xbox 360 has problem. I want to wait until the next version release.
Stupid MS tries to beat Sony PS3 and give everyone problems with the xbox 360 console.
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modster
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6. December 2005 @ 08:50 |
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dude,
this is america, and everyone want a piece of the $$. You would too if you can sue someone for "unnecessary lawsuit" and don't say that you wouldn't. if you can sue and win $1 million I bet your *ss that you will sue! It's all about the money! money..money!
thank you :)
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TruthMan
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6. December 2005 @ 09:52 |
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yes thats all the big boys (big companies) see in the end, dollars, dollars and guess what?...........more dollars. (but im english so its £ in my case, lol)
Don't judge the consoles by specs, more isnt always better, espec in PS3 specs.i know the truth, ask if u wanna know.......
Do not compete without valid correct technicality on your terms of the argument.
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laxplayer
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6. December 2005 @ 14:05 |
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ok, well, that is jsut rediculuss. You are saying that all these problems are the result of MS trying to get there product out first?
It is the result of a small bug. You obviously know nothing about debugging. MS got the unfortunate end of a small bug that 3% of xbox 360's have. That 3% is probably the result of to many over enthusiastic fanboys playing gor hours on end and some cooling problems on it. If you where really that mad, you could solve the problem urself by putting a fan inside. But no, that would take to much energy, and you wouldnt get to play for 20 minutes!
Hahahaha wilson I stole ur sig. But changed it a tad.
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6. December 2005 @ 15:29 |
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The small bug is them not finishing the product properly!! Why should you have to put a fan in it yourself if you want to play for hours on end!! thats just crap! they should have tested the consoles properly instead of just getting them out to the shops and making the $$.
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6. December 2005 @ 15:43 |
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What all you cry babies seem to forget is the ps1, ps2, dreamcast,N64,sega, and the xbox1 all froze up during game play.
I own just about all systems you can name and they all have had problems. I wonder how many of you complaining really own an xbox360!
If you think back the p2 had overheating problems from day one. Sony released retooled version later that year.
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6. December 2005 @ 16:41 |
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I also Own xbox360, and yes it does give off alot of heat.
I researved m xbox in march and picked it up nov 22 12:00 a.m.
The first night it was played for about 8 hr, no problems.
In the weeks of playing my 360 it has locked up once, I turned off system and rebooted, worked like a charm.
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oofRome
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6. December 2005 @ 17:53 |
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dude,
this is america, and everyone want a piece of the $$. You would too if you can sue someone for "unnecessary lawsuit" and don't say that you wouldn't. if you can sue and win $1 million I bet your *ss that you will sue! It's all about the money! money..money!
thank you :)
what do you mean "if I could". Like you said, I live in America. I can sue anybody for practly anything these days. I don't.
My dad is a Doctor and I've seen and heard what medical lawsuits can do. I have also worked in a restaraunt and know how much everyone can be affected by a customer who over-reacts to a simple mistake (and in some cases, a mistake made BY the customer in the first place)
So do me a favor and don't patronize me. Just because "everyone does it" doesn't make it ok.
The point is that he could've returned the 360 to the retailer he purchased it at, or contacted Microsoft's customer service and either had his defective parts replaced or be reinbursed for the faulty product.
The lawsuit is definately going too far. (But unfortunately, many people like you feel that it should be rewarding to overreact to something that quite frankly isn't that big of a deal.)
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ChrisKahn
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6. December 2005 @ 18:20 |
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Actually if i paid 500 bucks for something i would want it working properly without any defects. But i think a lawsuit is kinda pushing it a bit too far. He probably wont win anyways
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modster
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6. December 2005 @ 18:55 |
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first of all @laxplayer: I have been designing and debugging computer chips and integrated circuit boards when you are in the 1st grade. Do you know what a MESH is? or resistor, capacitor or a node is? Please don't say that we know nothing about debugging. Ever heard of development cycle? Apparently, MS did not complete the development cycle..they left out the fully testing part!
second @oofRome, dude I am not patronizing you or anyone here, just telling you the facts of life that people do sue other people for the money. Again, you don't know me so do not say that I am over reacting! Also, my dad is a lawyer and thanks to doctors like your dad, he made millions in lawsuits from malpractice cases. Again, it's all about the money, which by the way 'mo money' got me a PHD. Thanks!
cheers
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ChrisKahn
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6. December 2005 @ 21:41 |
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damn... rich ppl up in here. Im jus a window shoppa. I havent got my Player Hater Degree yet tho.
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oofRome
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6. December 2005 @ 22:09 |
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dude I am not patronizing you or anyone here, just telling you the facts of life that people do sue other people for the money. Again, you don't know me so do not say that I am over reacting!
I wasn't arguing the motives behing lawsuits, nor did I say that you were overreacting. I said that the guy who filed the lawsuit was overreacting, and it appeared(appears) that you were(are) supporting his actions.
I think that some lawsuits are absolutely necessary.
However, nothing merits this particlar case.
Edit** Also: sorry about the rude tone of my first 2 posts. :-)
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roadkille
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7. December 2005 @ 09:15 |
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Yeah, I'm supporting this Chicago man. I paid $399 + games + taxes to get the defective xbox 360. And I can't return or exchange it. I'm very mad.
My xbox is freeze once in a while. I know I have 1 year warranty with MS. But it is hassle to send my xbox back and forth to fix this problem. Plus sometimes MS can't even confirm this xbox 360 overheat problem either.
I agree that MS makes money. But they have to make money in a right way. They have to do full complete test before they sale them.
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It is the result of a small bug. You obviously know nothing about debugging. MS got the unfortunate end of a small bug that 3% of xbox 360's have. That 3% is probably the result of to many over enthusiastic fanboys playing gor hours on end and some cooling problems on it. If you where really that mad, you could solve the problem urself by putting a fan inside. But no, that would take to much energy, and you wouldnt get to play for 20 minutes!
If you believe in what they said, then you have no brain. They may lie so they look good in their product. Everyone know how to debug problems. You buy xbox 360 over $400. Then bring home and debug it. Then you are just an IDIOT and also a big NOOD.
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laxplayer
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7. December 2005 @ 14:57 |
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what im saying is that every product that goes out on the market has some sourt of bug in it. And i personally think that it is not a design flaw, but a productiona flaw. This would meant hat it wouldnt have been fixed by testing. And they cant test every thing that rolles out of the assembly line or u would be paying 700, not 400 dollars.
@roadkille and modster
what im saying is that every product has bugs that are almost impossible to detect in testing. You can test things and they work, but you cannot test the product for every envirment and every situation that it will be used in. It is only possible to get every bug out of the system by a)only make it avaliable for use in controlled conditions or b)put it out on the market and let consumers report any other bugs.
Hahahaha wilson I stole ur sig. But changed it a tad.
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modster
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7. December 2005 @ 16:18 |
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@laxplayer => have you ever worked in Coporate America's environment?
obviously not, because you can not make even a small simple mistake with any product you are selling. This little flaw could end up costing the company millions. According to you, then every cd and dvd players out there should have some sort of clitch in them? How about automobiles? for example FORD explorer... do you know why people called them FORD EXPLODER? EXPLODER...because certain models burst into flames in the late 1998s. Again, it's just a little clitch which could result in total lost of the vehicle.
In Corporate America, there is not room for mistakes because the guy right behind you will be happy to take over your job and your pay.
back to your theory a & b:
a => controlled condition -> this is what we professionals call the trial and error phase, thus no money is involved here. this should be done well before xbox 360 (about 6 months ahead) be marketed and sold on the market for consumers like you and I to purchase.
b => put it out on the market and let consumers report any other bugs => well, this is what we called beta testing. BETA that is again, no money is involved, you take xbox 360 home for free and then send MS or call MS and report all the bugs and flaws you find.
Well, then why is the xbox 360 cost $399 and $299? They should do more R&D (Research and Development) before put a product on the market for that much. All for what? trying to beat PS3 to the market. Ever heard of the story of the tortoise and the rabbit? Well, guess who is the tortoise?
I want to apologize to all forum members here if I sound like a preacher. But, folks this is reality and life. Join Corporate America for one day and you will be surprised!
cheers,
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oofRome
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7. December 2005 @ 16:47 |
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I hope this guy doesn't win.
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laxplayer
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8. December 2005 @ 15:05 |
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what im saying is thatevery console that has gone out on market has had a similar problem. Its not just MS.
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@laxplayer => have you ever worked in Coporate America's environment?
obviously not, because you can not make even a small simple mistake with any product you are selling. This little flaw could end up costing the company millions. According to you, then every cd and dvd players out there should have some sort of clitch in them? How about automobiles? for example FORD explorer... do you know why people called them FORD EXPLODER? EXPLODER...because certain models burst into flames in the late 1998s. Again, it's just a little clitch which could result in total lost of the vehicle.
In Corporate America, there is not room for mistakes because the guy right behind you will be happy to take over your job and your pay.
yes i have. and this is a bit diffrent that the an automobile. and dvd and cd players are a bit simpler than a gaming console.
Hahahaha wilson I stole ur sig. But changed it a tad.
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TarkatanN
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8. December 2005 @ 16:17 |
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I recently copped my xbox 360 and i have to say that it does give off a quite bit more heat then i expected, but i find that about half an hour of use and it gets about as hot as it will be. I say this because i checked after an all nighter on it andit was no hotter then before...
In the manual it says to keep the 360 in a well ventalated area so that the console and the power strip can "breathe" with ease..
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Equation
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8. December 2005 @ 17:45 |
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GUys lawsuit, would only be necessary if Microsoft did not want to help, or try to help, they are doing their best, Give 'em a break
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