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Experiencing Difficulty Using DVD RB and CCE? If So, Then Ask Your Questions Here.
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HKT3020
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21. September 2004 @ 18:45 |
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It was automatically set as it was in the previous setup, anywho I'll post my rebuilder settings.
[Paths]
CCENEW=C:\Program Files\DVD Tools\DVD Rebuilder\EclCCE.exe
MPEG2DEC=C:\Program Files\DVD Tools\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll
Source=Z:\FIGHTCLB\VIDEO_TS\
Working=Z:\NEW FOLDER\
[Options]
LoadPlugin=1
BackColor=14737632
RemoveDTS=1
AudioDub=0
idct7Opt=1
CCE=1
OneClick=1
AVSFilter01=Undot().Deen()
Completed=1
[Setup]
Languages=1111111111111111111111110111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
[CCEOptions]
VBR_bias=25
Quality_prec=16
eclPasses=4
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21. September 2004 @ 18:50 |
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From the RB Menu,
In Mode, these pull-down items should be checked:
CCE Mode
Verbose Status Window
One Click Mode
Dynamically Assign Cell Bitrates
Suppress warning prompts
In Options >>
AVS Options >> Check: Convert to YuY2()
CCE Options >> Check: CCE SP(v2.65+)
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HKT3020
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21. September 2004 @ 18:53 |
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This is most likely my last post for the night but just to make sure you didn't miss out,
Options - AVS Options - Advanced Options - MPEG2Source (checked)
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21. September 2004 @ 18:56 |
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Thanks. I was just getting ready to add that one. This shows up: AVSFilter01=Undot().Deen(). This is a filter setting, and is OK, but did you add it? I don't see it in the setup I'm familir with.
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HKT3020
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21. September 2004 @ 18:59 |
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Just to clarify, it should be written as...
Undot().Deen() Or
Undot().Deen().
And it's there in my setup, counting all lines on line 14.
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21. September 2004 @ 19:04 |
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It shouldn't be there unless you put it there. This would be through Options >> AVS Options >> Filter Editor. What else do you see in the filter window>
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HKT3020
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21. September 2004 @ 19:10 |
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So far everything is as you said it should be.
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21. September 2004 @ 19:17 |
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Well, I would suggest you clear those filter settings. The fact they are there means we have a differnet setup. Also, when you went to upgrade to RB .61, you should have had to make the settings manually. It won't do it automatically. At this point I'm confused, and need to think about this a bit. I'm also thinking we should take it offline because of the minimal benefit to others. When you get ready to look at this again tomorrow, send me a PM, and we will go from there, OK?
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21. September 2004 @ 19:31 |
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I see now how RB .61 self-installed with this setup. I'm going to run a movie through it and see what happens.
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HKT3020
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21. September 2004 @ 20:11 |
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Sounds good to me, until tomorrow then. Much appreciated.
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64026402
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22. September 2004 @ 03:53 |
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Jimmy,
It sounds like the mpg2dec3dg.dll file is misplaced or the path is wrong.
Make sure it's in with rebuilder and the box next to the path is checked.
Donald
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 22. September 2004 @ 03:54
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jdobbs
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22. September 2004 @ 09:29 |
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@HKT2030
Please be aware the if you use Undot().deen() -- you must also have the .DLLs for those filters resident in your AVISYNTH Plugins directory (sorry if you already know that -- not everyone does).
@everyone
Don't know if this applies, but it's probably not a good idea to ever use someone elses INI files. In most cases it is better that you don't even modify your own. DVD-RB manages these items itself and modification of any of its internal files should be left only to those who have extensive knowledge of MPEG2DEC, AVISYNTH, and CCE...
Most of the time it is best just to let DVD-RB do its job... without "help"
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 22. September 2004 @ 09:34
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spamlover
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23. September 2004 @ 00:44 |
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Hi all. Thanks jdobbs for your tireless work on the DVD-RB project. I am happy to say that after countless tries with various versions of DVD-RB and CCE, I finally got it to work!!. When using the latest version of DVD Decrypter plus DVD-RB (.56 thru .61) plus CCE 2.69 basic (the real deal..I bought it), I would either get the dreaded #0003 buffer overflow error or the equally annoying #09 Subscript out of range error. Even moving all folders to the same drive (as brobear suggested)wouldn't alleviate these errors.
So, here's what worked. Both input and output folders on same drive. I first used DVD Decrypter 3.5.1.0. Then I reauthored to movie only and stripped out unwanted audio via DVD Shrink ver. 3.2.0.15. Next I fired up DVD-RB .61 and pointed it to CCE Basic 2.69 and just used the "Standard" settings that are present right after installing.
The movie was Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom and it looked amazing. I sure hope this helps!
Time flies like an arrow...fruit flies like a banana!
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spamlover
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23. September 2004 @ 09:14 |
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Oh Well! My joy seems to be shortlived. I realized that when I decoded Indiana Jones with success, I had set CCE Basic to standard mode which encodes in 1 pass CBR. I tried next to encode Michael Moore's "The Awful Truth Second Season" (with 12 episodes) using 2 pass VBR with 3:4 ratio and again got the dreaded #0003 error. I'm so bummed!
Time flies like an arrow...fruit flies like a banana!
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23. September 2004 @ 09:20 |
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If you had DVD-RB do the encoding for you it used its own settings. The encoding is done from the command line and all the settings are taken from the ECL file created during the Prepare phase.
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23. September 2004 @ 10:01 |
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Spamlover...the fact that it worked for you is a very good sign. Have you done a fresh install yet of your OS and other software? Files get corrupted over time, and it may be time for one.
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spamlover
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23. September 2004 @ 10:22 |
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I am so encouraged by your quick responses Doc and Vurbul..sorta renews my faith in humanity. Anyhow:
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If you had DVD-RB do the encoding for you it used its own settings. The encoding is done from the command line and all the settings are taken from the ECL file created during the Prepare phase.
Your statement brings up questions for me:
1. If DVD-RB (which points to CCE Basic) does the encoding, then what does CCE do? and 2. What are the CCE settings for if DVD-RB doesn't use them? 3. What programs/ steps would I need to take if I wanted CCE only to encode/transcode the movie? 4. Is there a way to do all the preparing, encoding, transcoding, etc. without using DVD-RB and then use DVD-RB only for the Rebuild Stage? If so, what programs would I need?
If this has been answered in other threads, then please accept my apologies in advance. Marc
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23. September 2004 @ 10:41 |
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No apologies necessary. It's a complex subject.
I'm not saying CCE doesn't do the encoding, what I'm saying is that all the parameters for the encoding process are determined by DVD-RB. You have some control over it, but nothing you do within CCE's interface before encoding will affect it at all.
Within CCE you have an option that allows you to save a project file. If you do that, you'll end up with a file called whatever.ecl. That file contains all the instructions required for CCE to do the encoding. You can either open that file in CCE and click the encode button or you can run CCE from the command line, specifying that ECL file for the settings. DVD-RB creates the ECL file itself and then uses the command line to have it encoded by CCE. Are you saying that you changed the CCE settings within DVD-RB or that you changed settings within CCE's interface? I'm a little confused because you said you set it to "Standard Mode", which to me means the default settings. For DVD-RB that's definitely not CBR.
As far as using DVD-RB for only part of the process goes, it can't be done. DVD-RB uses a very different process than any other backup program.
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23. September 2004 @ 13:58 |
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spamlover
Vurbal knows what he's talking about, sometimes you have to read a few sentences at the same time. It's the shortness of his response that made it difficult for you to understand.
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jimmy3220
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23. September 2004 @ 14:07 |
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I have been playing around with my undersizing issue. As I posted earlier, by using the default CCETARGETSECTORS, all of my movies were coming out around 2.6 GB. So I decided to bump it up to 2600000 and the movie came out to 2.89 GB. So then again I decided to bump it up to CCETargetSectors=4350000 and also did max_bitrate=8500 and min_bitrate=1000 and the result was 3.38 GB. So I guess I will have to keep on experimenting until I can fill up the DVD space.
THis is probably totally wrong to do but I have done everything from a complete reformat and recently uninstalled and then reinstalled everything related to DVD burning and it always shows up small.
UNless anyone can come up with a better method of increasing disc size, I will have to do it this incorrect way becaause after all it produces results. Also I would like to mention that at even a gross reduction down to 2.6 GB the picture still looks pretty good. GO figure?
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spamlover
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23. September 2004 @ 16:06 |
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Hi Vurbal and thanks again for the help!
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Are you saying that you changed the CCE settings within DVD-RB or that you changed settings within CCE's interface? I'm a little confused because you said you set it to "Standard Mode", which to me means the default settings. For DVD-RB that's definitely not CBR.
I changed the CCE settings by creating a new template in CCE. I clicked on Template --> Standard and then tweaked settings and saved the template under a new name. I made sure that this new template had the checkmark by it. I thought if I did this, then rebuilder would use these settings. How can I use the CCE settings from my new template? Can anyone tell me the steps? Also, bottom line, I'm just frustrated with only one success with DVD-RB/CCE Basic in over 15 tries. What am I doing wrong? I've followed all the guides on Doom and AD and still can't get it to work. Are there any settings that I could send you guys that would help diagnose my problem?
Thanks so much for your help!
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Have you done a fresh install yet of your OS and other software? Files get corrupted over time, and it may be time for one.
No I haven't in over a year or so. I have another partition that I rarely use...I think I'll try on that one. What files tend to get corrupted that would affect DVD-RB/CCE??
Marc
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Gnomex
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23. September 2004 @ 16:24 |
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spamlover (Mark(,
DVD RB needs a clean working system configuration to work at its best. Since you have not reinstalled windows in a while, a reinstall will not hurt. It will clean out anygarbage system files and settings made long ago and inot n use today.
Disclaimer: Any errors in spelling, tact, or fact are transmission errors.
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23. September 2004 @ 16:24 |
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spamlover...
I can't tell you specifically what files, and it can be files related to files, and these may be different for everyone. My own experience is, and it happens sooner than a year's worth, it that with upgrades and trying and removing different softwares, things just get messed up. It only takes 1 file to cause nightmares. If anyone else has used your computer for online stuff, well...no one gets near the computer I have set up for video work. You can spend a little time trying to fix a file problem, but sooner or later you have to bite the bullet. The thing is, with a clean install, you eliminate/isolate one main area of concern. You could try to run a sfc system file check) to see if there are any OS files that need repairing. You can get a guide for this by googling. Or, you could run a registry cleaner. Any of these might work, and they might not.
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23. September 2004 @ 16:48 |
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spamlover
I have to agree. If you're adventurous and you like trying out a lot of different softwares and should they be of a similar purpose then things can get really messed up over time. Some codecs can get really get things screwed up.
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Gnomex
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23. September 2004 @ 17:24 |
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Doc409,
You are very correct about how easy it is to have multiple system configuration errors. There are a lot of good "Fix-It" applications out, but nothing fixes it all. And sometimes the "fix-it" application do more harm then good.
One way to keep your DVD-RB out of trouble is creating two independent versions of windows on your hard drive. One version of windows could be used for standard use - abuse. The other version of windows could be used for DVD-RB and its components. There is a lot of good documents out on the web on this method and its pro's and cons. I have my machine setup in this manor. The DVD-RB partition takes up about 3GB of space. And 3 GB of space is worth my sanity and time.
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