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9. December 2007 @ 23:50 |
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well I just got a bug of some sort this weekend dl'ing and installing some windows updates (of all things). now everytime I boot up I get an error message with the ATI logo saying CLI Application has encountered a problem and needs to close. I know it has to do with either my ATI GPU driver or .NET Framework 2.0. I've reinstalled the driver to no avail and when I try to remove, repair, or reinstall .NET 2.0 I get this error
hell if I know. I even tried to remove .NET 2.0 in safe mode. same result. may be time to reformat ugh.
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10. December 2007 @ 04:07 |
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Mort81,
Do you have "File Unlocker"? If you want to try it PM me and I'll send it to you. You might have it though as I got it from DVDH!
You might try another download of Net Framework 2.0 and try to re-install it over itself. I had a problem with mine and that's what I wound up doing!
Merry Christmas & Happy New Year
theone :<)
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10. December 2007 @ 05:34 |
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What is Net Framework 2.0, what does it do?
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10. December 2007 @ 07:38 |
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Heh, I have .NET issues too. If I try and install soundforge it tells me it requires .NET service pack 1 and takes me to the download page. If I download the exact file and install it and run the installer again, the process repeats itself! I even installed the latest .NET, still to no avail.
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10. December 2007 @ 12:45 |
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sammorris,
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If I download the exact file and install it and run the installer again, the process repeats itself! I even installed the latest .NET, still to no avail.
Cheer up, it took about a dozen times in an automatic update to get it right. Everytime I shut down or re-booted the computer, it kept telling me I had an Automatic update. Everytime I let it do it's thing, it would tell me it was completed (no mandatory re-boot), which would last until the next shutdown or re-boot. It was the same thing over and over again. it finally installed and hasn't popped up since!
Merry Christmas & Happy New Year
Theone :>(
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10. December 2007 @ 13:12 |
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Automatic updates eh, but what if I don't have a genuine windows key...
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10. December 2007 @ 14:52 |
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Russ,
I do have unlocker. I'm gonna be busy the next day or two but I will PM you later. side note: does it take forever to load a page here at AD sometimes lately or is it just me?
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10. December 2007 @ 14:59 |
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Mort81,
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does it take forever to load a page here at AD sometimes lately or is it just me?
Let me put it this way! A Centipede could put his sneakers on faster most times! I get so tired of waiting and it doesn't happen anywhere else, just AD! Sometimes I have to close FireFox and start over. It's all the add BS! I've taken to clicking the stop button before I even open my mail and in between screens. Sometimes that helps! LOL!!
Merry Christmas & Happy New Year,
Russ :<)
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10. December 2007 @ 15:05 |
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For me it only hangs trying to load the adverts. God damnit, aren't they rich enough already?
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10. December 2007 @ 15:33 |
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Or try Adblock Plus.
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10. December 2007 @ 15:38 |
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abuzar1,
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Or try Adblock Plus.
I don't know if that would work! When you join AD you agree to the Ads!
Russ
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10. December 2007 @ 16:03 |
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Oh I didn't read that. Oh well it's not like they'll find out.
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11. December 2007 @ 02:42 |
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@theonejrs and sammorris which 120mm fan you suggest?...Scythe S-Flex and which others...
oh what do you guys think of P182, but "Please Note: This case mounts your motherboard upside down and therefore, has very specific PSU cable length requirements. Antec recomment only the following PSU's:
Antec TruePower series
Antec NEO HE series
Antec Phantom series"
man...are you serious...anyone own this case?
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11. December 2007 @ 04:41 |
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GTR35,
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oh what do you guys think of P182, but "Please Note: This case mounts your motherboard upside down and therefore, has very specific PSU cable length requirements.
I guess I'll be the first to throw rocks! LOL!! I don't like it! I don't like any case that mounts the PS on the bottom and then depends on the case fans to pull all the air through everything! Heat rises! I do my very best to keep heat in it's proper place, and that's as far away from being drawn into the CPU cooler as possible. I also don't like cases with no side vent. The air drawn in by the exhaust case fans I have cools the video card and the Southbridge and is drawn out the back without ever having to go through the CPU cooler.
As far as 120mm case fans, I stand by my Silverstone FM-121 as long as it's not being used in an aluminum case as Sam seems to get a lot more vibration than I do. Sam and I discovered some very interesting things about fans and vibration the other night when we were doing a little testing out of the case. When I stand a Cooler master 33 cfm fan on the desk it doesn't vibrate at all. If I set it on a piece of 1/4 foam, it buzzes like a bee! Lift it by the top corners with your fingers and it vibrates like crazy I didn't use the Silicon mounts on mine and I'm glad I didn't as it would have buzzed a lot. I have them both firmly screwed to the case and cover and I can put my fingers all around the fan and there's almost no vibration at all. In fact there's almost no vibration with my case at all, no matter where you touch it! To me that's remarkable as there's 7 fans spinning around in there!
Sam likes the Sythe S-Flex and it does the job for him and makes for a near silent PC, but it also runs about 10C hotter than mine, although with his new Thermalright, I believe he has the temps under control. My approach is aimed more at maximum cooling. I can buy 3 Freezer 7 Pros for the cost of one Thermalright! They also perform very well for me. My Silverstones can move more air at a slower speed and I'm more than happy with the noise level with the rear 120 turning 1400 rpm and the side 80mm at 1300. This moves about 100 cfm of air and keeps everything nice and cool My case ventilation is about as perfect as I can get it and it rarely ever gets to 50C on the CPU temp. Even if I run Orthos for 12 hours, it never breaks 60C. Most times it's at 55C while running Orthos. I love the case so much that I now use the same model for all my customer builds. It looks classy and does a good job!
I pretty much agree that Sam's approach and mine differ, but we both wind up with what we want, so there's really no right way. I save money at the expense of a little more noise which is in no way annoying to me, and he gets his silent PC!
Merry Christmas & Happy New Year
Russ :<)
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11. December 2007 @ 07:19 |
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yeah...thats a long explanation...so P182 is not that of a good case...which case do you guys recommend...yes i've asked this question many times...i just can't make up my mind...some people say 900 is a good case and some don't so i don't know which one to listen...and i can't make up my mind...i think thats a good case bc it has lots of fans so it must be a good cooler, but some say that its not so good at cooling even if it has many fans installed...
so which one do you guys all agree that it's a good case...
about the fan you guys recommend i can't get it...
which fan(s) from these site are good...
http://www.sybaritic.co.za/store/
http://www.prophecy.co.za/
http://pc123.co.za/
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11. December 2007 @ 08:37 |
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Yep, my friend owns the P182, and he uses a standard Tagan PSU in that, of coure they'd recommend Antec PSUs, the case is an Antec! Trust me you can put pretty much any PSU in there, and I'm certain the Corsair HX 520W is one of them.
Russ: As nice as the lack of vibration is, even with most of my fans on high, there isn't much vibration from them. The big one for overall case vibration is hard drives. That's where you need to focus on anti-vibration mounting. A lot of people suspend drives on elastic from the screw holes. I would do that, but how then do I soundproof them as well?
"Hotter than yours?" How so? My load temps are 42C, you get lower with your freezer 7?
GTR: what you've got to remember is that Xclio made cases with two 250mm fans, and even one with a 360mm fan. Their cooling is absolute crap, because the fans simply aren't utilised in a decent way. With the 900 that's not so much of a problem, as the input airflow roughly matches the output airflow (If you set all the fans to the same setting, the CFM difference is overcome through the empty mesh at the front). The push-pull fan arrangement for hard drives is useless so don't bother with that, but overall there are many worse cases for cooling. However, simply put, there are lots of cases which will make a far better job of cooling a system with low fan speed. As for the P182 I think it's a brilliant case, but is only really worth recommending for a silent PC build.
As for the case fans, none of them. The range from all of those shops is poor. Vantec fans scream like hell, Thermaltake ones make quite a racket for how much air they move, and Antec ones are pretty much the same.
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11. December 2007 @ 09:37 |
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ok i've done enough research on CPU and PSU...now it's on case...
-Thermaltake Soprano DX VE7000BWS Chassis - Black - No PSU(I dont see the front fan)
-Gigabyte 3D Aurora 570 Chassis - Silver - No PSU
-Antec Nine Hundred Gaming Case - No PSU
-Thermaltake Armor - No PSU
-Antec Mercury case
-Antec P182
to be honest some towers are sexy they look very nice but the cooling i don't know...it's a knock out round which case(s) will be knock out with out even looking at it...and which one(s) will stay...
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11. December 2007 @ 10:24 |
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Originally posted by GTR35:
to be honest some towers are sexy they look very nice but the cooling i don't know...it's a knock out round which case(s) will be knock out with out even looking at it...and which one(s) will stay...
I like to think the NZXT Lexa I use is a bit of both in that regard... It cools well enough to run my system with all the fans at lower speeds than any stock fan you can buy.
Originally posted by GTR35:
I dont see the front fan
What this one?
http://images.moditory.com/reviews/Thermaltake/Soprano/13.jpg
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11. December 2007 @ 10:41 |
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11. December 2007 @ 10:44 |
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Lol duh, with most cases you can't see the intake fan from the outside, they're covered with grilles and vents so the case doesn't look stupid. The 900 is the only case I can even think of with an entirely visible front fan.
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11. December 2007 @ 11:11 |
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but doesn't the cover cover up the fan?...
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11. December 2007 @ 11:24 |
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Not entirely, the vent/grille allows some of the airflow through, but it is indeed impeded.
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11. December 2007 @ 11:32 |
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hmm...ok...i'll have to think carefully which one to buy in the future
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11. December 2007 @ 11:34 |
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I wouldn't worry too much about the front fan issue. The case I use has no problem cooling, yet not only blocks off the front fan by use of a grille (although there is a downward facing slot) but also a dust filter.
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11. December 2007 @ 12:23 |
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900's only let down is that it doesn't have dust filter
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