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11. December 2007 @ 20:14 |
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just thought I would bring this deal to everybodys attention COOLER MASTER Stacker 830 RC-830-SSN2-GP Silver Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail $110 after a $60 MIR with free shipping and no tax except in CA. I would take this case hands down over an antec 900. I just ordered one.
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12. December 2007 @ 03:39 |
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Originally posted by REAM:
you know its funny. i usually go on two enthusiast forums...
one love gigabyte (guess which one)
and on love ASUS....
it superb as someone that doesnt own either brand ATM (Abit) to see what people say to back what they say.
i gotta agree with that...they all pretend they know a lot of that...and this...but they actually don' even have that...
SEX
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12. December 2007 @ 03:58 |
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GTR35,
All I can say is the service I got from Gigabyte was extraordinary. I spent about 15 years of my career in customer Service and GigaByte does business the same way I did. You do what ever you have to do to make the problem right. They lived up to every promise they made and when events came along beyond their control, they handled the situation and had me back up and running in less than 2 days. Best customer Service in the Computer industry I've seen in 20 years of building well over 200 computers! I like the way they do business and I love their product! And yes, I'm the #1 Gigabyte Fanboy on AD! Damn proud of it too! GigaByte Rocks!
Merry Christmas & Happy New Year
theone
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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12. December 2007 @ 05:05 |
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thats god to know...what about ASUS mobo/product...
SEX
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12. December 2007 @ 07:50 |
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Terrible customer service, and Russ will tell you the same. The products may be good (although that wasn't my experience) but Asus customer support won't want to know you.
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12. December 2007 @ 09:24 |
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lol...ASUS make good products...just make sure you don't get the one that has a problem...
SEX
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12. December 2007 @ 09:28 |
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So that includes the A8N-SLI SE and the P5N-E SLI does it? :S
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12. December 2007 @ 10:13 |
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yeah...lol...well...um...not too many problems...
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12. December 2007 @ 17:31 |
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honestly. i have never had a problem with my asus mobos, and the few i have built for friends. they are very stable when OCed aswell, and i have never needed to RMA, so i cant say about thrie Customer serivce.
and if you replace what i said with gigabyte and Abit, then you have my look on the best three mobo producers.
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12. December 2007 @ 17:47 |
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I've never had any problems with asus mobo's either but then again I usually go with one of their flagship or top end models.
the closest one I've gone with that could be considered a low - midstream model was a P4P800 SE at about $100. very popular mobo. all the others have been $200+.
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12. December 2007 @ 18:33 |
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Mort81,
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the closest one I've gone with that could be considered a low - midstream model was a P4P800 SE at about $100. very popular mobo. all the others have been $200+.
The P4P800 SE was a great MB! I had one for my 3.0/800 Prescot. After Asus stopped making them, it was such a respected motherboard that they were seen on E-Bay for as high as $400. You are right about the high end Asus motherboards. That's all I used to use before I got into overclocking. bought over 100 of them over the years for customer builds. I only used other brands by request. Didn't have a lot of problems with them either! Maybe 2 or 3 RMAs during that time, usually a DOA! back then you just called them up and they would send you a new one and you had to send the bad board back within 30 days or they would charge your credit card for it. Back then people wanting the latest and greatest swapped high end motherboards like water. A new chipset would come out and I'd have folks calling me up wanting one! I would buy something new for myself every couple of weeks and have it "promised" to someone before I finished the build! Everybody wanted the latest. I would go to a computer Fair and spend $3000 or more every couple of weeks! No Internet or places like Frys in those days! Computer development was fast and furious, and you were only as good as your latest offerings and the people who wanted computers, wanted the very best! Today, it's hard to compete with Wal-Mart! LOL!! All they see is the price! ROFLMAO!! Can anyone here comprehend 1024x768 monitors for upwards of $400, or Video cards with 4MB of ram running them? How about $1300 40MB hard drives, or $400 1x CD-Rom drives?
Today the prices have gotten cheaper, and so have the customers! LOL!!
It's funny today! Most people won't spend the extra money for the more expensive models, even though it cost more 10 or 15 years ago, to build what today we would throw away as junk! Today, you get a lot more for your money, even though the money is worth less! LOL!!
I think GigaByte does very well in the mid to high end and is determined to capture more of that market. I like their idea about making Series motherboards with different options as they did with the P35-DS3s. If you don't need all the "goodies", you buy the L model for about $70. You want Raid, Ultra Durable and 1066 memory compatibility, you get the R model around $130, and so on all the way up to the DS3P at around $160.
Best regards,
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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12. December 2007 @ 18:42 |
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To be fair, Asus have done that too. Remember the A8N-SLI, A8N-SLI SE, A8N-SLI Deluxe, A8N-SLI premium and A8N32-SLI Deluxe?
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12. December 2007 @ 18:51 |
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sammorris,
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To be fair, Asus have done that too. Remember the A8N-SLI, A8N-SLI SE, A8N-SLI Deluxe, A8N-SLI premium and A8N32-SLI Deluxe?
True, but the price range wasn't as good, nor was the quality as you went lower in price! Aside from the entry level "L" model, the only difference in the others is the available options. The "R", P35C and the "P" models all have the same goodies in each motherboard. Same support for 1066 memory, Same support for the Quads, Raid, Same support for 45nm and same Ultra-Durable components, so they all perform alike!
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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13. December 2007 @ 00:47 |
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hey guys...i think i'm having problems with my Abit mobo...well actually i don't know if its the mobo or what...or maybe some other components problem...sometimes i think it's the GPU and sometimes i think its the HDD...so i don't really know...other wise Abit is a good brand...
anyone know which country made Gigabyte
i know ASUS, ACER, ABIT are made by Taiwan...
SEX
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13. December 2007 @ 03:45 |
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GTR35,
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anyone know which country made Gigabyte
I know the Printed Circuit Board itself is made in Taiwan, but where it's assembled I have no idea. All I know is I love mine! Same goes for the GA-965P-DS3 I had before this one, and they were my first ever GigaByte motherboards. I've been using some of their less expensive motherboards with on-board graphics for customer builds with an E4300 and haven't had any problems with the 6 of them I bought so far. They all run at stock speeds and are Business Computers.
Best Regards,
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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13. December 2007 @ 04:14 |
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go Gigabyte...damn i'm proud!...and GigaByte GA-P35-DS3R is so popular...eveyone on AD have that mobo...
SEX
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13. December 2007 @ 05:26 |
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sorry, I'm running an asus P5W DH Deluxe WiFi. I'm pretty proud of it also. the 975X chipset has served me well. very stable and good OC'er
my next build I will most likely go with one variety of an asus P5K or P5E mobo. I'll cross that bridge when I get to it. I've still got to decide on a cpu too. I already know which cpu hsf, p/s, hdd drive/s, and OS I'm going to use. my Cooler Master Stacker 830 Evo should be here friday. not that I'm in any hurry but I need to start deciding on a cpu, mobo, memory, and GPU. I'm gonna buy a peice at a time (looking fo sales on the items I need) so it probably won't be built for another 3 - 6 months.
a lot of the ppl here that have gigabyte mobos started with a lower end asus mobo (P5B something) and it just didn't perform too well. they could have moved up to a higher end asus mobo to resolve their problems as well. I seriously doubt I will stray away from asus. the top end asus mobos Im looking at aren't cheap ($250+) but just as with my P5W DH Deluxe WiFi mobo, you get what you pay for,
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13. December 2007 @ 06:13 |
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Mort81,
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sorry, I'm running an asus P5W DH Deluxe WiFi. I'm pretty proud of it also. the 975X chipset has served me well. very stable and good OC'er.
I couldn't agree more! Asus has some very fine products! What they don't have is good Customer Service, or knowledgeable service techs! They, like all motherboard manufacturers have had some real dogs too. The P5N-E comes easily to mind. Why the earliest ones were so good and the later ones so bad is beyond me. Whatever the problem it reminded me of a Blivet! That's 10 lbs of crap in a 5 pound sack, only in reverse. You looked in the sack and said "Where's the Beef"! LOL!! I personally think they kept trying to make it cheaper and ruined what was once a fine design. The thing that ticked me off the most with Asus was their denial that there were problems with the P5N-E, yet all the while there were pages on end in their forum complaining about the same problems I had with two out of the three motherboards. Poor Gina bought some additional memory, but you can't use the two additional memory slots! I particularly didn't like being told, "well don't use them then"! Not funny or my idea of a solution to the problem! We even offered to upgrade and pay whatever the additional amount would be after the second MB was bad and they told us "No, they can't do that"!
I would also like to remind you that you were the one who put the idea into my head to try something else after the P5N-E fiasco with Gina's computer! LOL!! I followed your advice and then asked Doc his thoughts on it and that's how I became AD's Official Gigabyte Fanboy! I have to blame someone don't I! LOL!! And I'm damn proud of it too! ROFLMAO!! I'm still thanking you for that, as I've had two fine running computers since!
Warmest Regards,
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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13. December 2007 @ 06:18 |
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i should correct that...it's most people owns gigabyte mobo and not all...
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13. December 2007 @ 10:16 |
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Yep, a lot of people swear by their high end Asus boards and that's fair enough, but as for me, two bad experiences are enough to put me off a company. I'm not the sort of person that spends £150 on a motherboard, I don't think I should have to just to get something that doesn't fall to pieces.
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13. December 2007 @ 12:28 |
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if a mid cost mobo can do so well...why people still buy the best and do the same as the mid one?
SEX
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13. December 2007 @ 14:41 |
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GTR35,
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if a mid cost mobo can do so well...why people still buy the best and do the same as the mid one?
More bells and whistles. I don't have any need for firewire, Native 1600MHz FSB, Dual Lan, Ultra Cool or DDR3 at this time, so the P35-DS3R was my choice as it perfectly suited my needs as everything I needed was there with the DS3R! I didn't want the DS3L because of the lack of Ultra-Durable, better chipset cooling and I wanted Raid!
Gigabyte also makes some fine high end motherboards as well. Like this one!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128068
No drooling on the screen now!
I was reading the reviews and came across the power on, power off in one of the reviews. I'm almost 100% positive that the memory they were using was a higher voltage. Once it booted if he set the memory voltage correctly there should be no problem. This was a common thing a few years back, only if you didn't have low enough voltage memory, it wouldn't post and just gave a black screen. I remember some of the guys on the overclocking thread having to borrow a stick of lower voltage memory just to get into the setup and adjust the voltage. I still keep a spare 256MB stick of 1.8v DDR2 handy just for that purpose! LOL!!
Best Regards,
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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13. December 2007 @ 14:59 |
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Yeah you could buy the high-end asus motherboards, but the Gigabyte boards are much cheaper for VERY good performance.
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13. December 2007 @ 15:21 |
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abuzar1,
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Yeah you could buy the high-end asus motherboards, but the Gigabyte boards are much cheaper for VERY good performance.
The highest priced Asus motherboard is about $50 more expensive than the GigaByte I posted to GTR35. Both are extremely good motherboards and excellent choices if you have that kind of money and have the need for all the bells and whistles. I don't have either! LOL!! I'm very pleased and happy with what I got! It fits my needs and works well, which is all the criteria any motherboard needs to meet for me! Someone pointed out to me that I might have to do a bios flash for certain CPUs, like that was a negative thing. Same thing with Asus, Abit, MSi, Foxconn and all the rest, so what's the big deal. Today a bios flash is no big! On most motherboards today a 10 year old could do it! LOL!!
Best Regards,
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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13. December 2007 @ 15:28 |
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damn...i need a cloth...can't stop it...LOL!...oh my thats a awesome board...but don't really need it now...DDR3 are way too expensive...
at Toms "Can Water push Yorkfield to 5 GHz?" bench, they mentioned the X48 chipset...and can't believe it...E6750 is doing quite good...against the quad cores...btu still i'll wait for the new mainstream quad core...more future proof...
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