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Official docTY Taiyo Yuden thread
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31. January 2006 @ 00:36 |
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well, as many here on AfterDawn know me as "docTY" or the authority on Taiyo Yuden media, i thought i would create an "official" thread to those that need an answer regarding Taiyo Yuden media...
i rarely subscribe to ANY threads, but will keep an eye on this one for those with questions regarding Taiyo Yuden...
i will try my best to help assist and resolve any issues one might have while using Taiyo Yuden media...so, feel free to ask anything your heart desires about TY :)
btw, i only got a FEW pieces of Taiyo Yuden's NEWEST 16x dvd+r media, they said my order is in queue on their "pre-release" backorder list... :(
so sad, i'm one of Taiyo Yuden's biggest fans and i'm not near the top of the list, so they only sent me 10 pieces to test out~ :) obviously, with this very LIMITED supply of TY 16x dvd+r, i can't really give anyone any ReAL results :)
btw, for all those that keep up with Taiyo Yuden products and were awaiting my response on GENUINE or authenticity inner hub readings...these NEW Taiyo Yuden 16x dvd+r with the media ID coding of YUDEN000T03 have an inner hub coding starting with "TH00xxxx" (where xxxx is the numerical batch number once again, this STILL applies to taiyo yudens across the board) :)
so a quick recap:
Taiyo Yuden rated speed & format/ media ID coding / inner hub reading
4x dvd-r = TYG01 / GD00xxxx
8x dvd-r = TYG02 / GG00xxxx
16x dvd-r = TYG03 / GH00xxxx
4x dvd+r = YUDEN000T01 / i don't know cuz i don't have any :P
8x dvd+r = YUDEN000T02 / TG00xxxx
16x dvd+r = YUDEN000T03 / TH00xxxx
there ya have it, TY currently does NOT have any DL discs at this time, but they said they are still considering making a DL offering mid to end of 2006 (realistically/optimistically speaking) :) nothing 100% as of yet, but they ARE thinking bout it...for those that were curious~ :)
docTY~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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31. January 2006 @ 00:44 |
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Doc, count me in as one of TY aka YUDEN's fans too, LOL. This is very useful for Newbies to have.
Taiyo Yuden ROCK!!
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31. January 2006 @ 01:14 |
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I know this thread will get numerous posts. The Addicts & Moderators here at AD saved me a lot headache and heartache by offering sound advice (especiallty with regards to quality media)!!! Keep up the good work Doc. Look to see you attain Moderator status soon!
edit: Any advice on how to become an official TY tester would be appreciated... :-)
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31. January 2006 @ 01:42 |
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just managed to drop by for a bit. i have stickied this thread for now doc, if that's not what you want i can always un-sticky it..
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31. January 2006 @ 03:25 |
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thanks creaky buddy~ :) the "sticky" is just fine...i hope people notice it before starting NEW Taiyo Yuden threads..it's easier to keep all the issues/questions in a single thread~ :)
appreciate the "special attention" ^^
docTY~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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31. January 2006 @ 03:47 |
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Hey Doc your very own sticky, great for you. But who could have any issues with genuine TY's. They are the best.
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31. January 2006 @ 09:35 |
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this is a great idea.. i luv the ones that are always asking why memorex are so hated here..
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31. January 2006 @ 09:41 |
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I stand in agreement. TY's are the ultimate. Not a single problem with any that I have ever used. Best thing going.
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31. January 2006 @ 09:43 |
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@arniebear
as i believe that what you have said is 100% true and correct, there are still those who post bad results/issues with TYs...i think with the "regulars" here and their experiences with vast number of different drives and setups, using various software programs to rip/encode/burn/etc.; together we can attempt to resolve the issues people DO have from time to time with genuine TYs... :)
i, for example, have quite a few drives that i am very familiar with at this point...Sony, Pioneer, Benq, NEC, Liteon (different makes and models of course) and you can be the "go-to" guy on the Plextors (cuz i don't have one...YET) :)
lot of the addicts here in the media forum are highly experienced with their own make and model of burner that they use daily/frequently; they have probably "troubleshooted" themselves and experimented with their drives to the point of knowing it inside and out~ :) i just know a little bit about each of the drives i use, so i'm sure greater assistance (details) could be had from the various members here~
just trying to get all the Taiyo Yuden issues in one spot, naturally, issues can arise from many factors in one's setup, but if TY is the media of choice, i have a genuine interest in getting the user up and running again and eliminate "choice of media" as being a factor in their list of problems~ :)
thanks for your input buddy~ :P
@teflonmyk
i wish i could "offer" you a 'TY testing spot' position, but i do not have that authority nor that kind of "pull" w/ Taiyo Yuden...the only reason i get advanced "pre-public release" media from them and can buy media directly from Taiyo Yuden is because i have a business relationship/association with them. one of my "side-business" endeavors landed me a quasi-partnership with Taiyo Yuden directly, it's VERY small and nothing to brag about, but i do deal directly with TY now as opposed to purchasing media from online vendors or searching locally for TYs :)
i also have a "minimum" purchase amount which i have to adhere by, that is the only way i get my Taiyo Yudens so inexpensively~ :) close to $0.20/each for DVD-R format and a hair above $0.25/each for DVD+R format (1,000 piece minimum per order, just FYI). i don't know why there is a discrepency in price between the formats, but i guess it's because it's the same way from online vendors (dvd+r format usually costs more than the DVD-R counterpart) :)
i know for the casual Taiyo Yuden buyer, what is a few cents right? well, when you deal with THOUSANDS of pieces in an order, those few cents certainly add up fast to the tune of few hundred U.S. dollars if i were to buy from say supermediastore/rima/meritline, etc...
anyways, before i bore anyone else with these trivial details..i'll end this post here :)
thanks guys for ALL the help you've given me in the past and for the countless number of members you've helped before, now, and in the future~ :P keep up the great work...
docTY~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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ThyDemise
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31. January 2006 @ 13:55 |
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i have a couple questions..
first, i just went through my first 100 pack DVD-R 8x after recently switching over to ty and had no problems, however on my second 100 pack, the first about 12 discs look as if the there is overspray all over the bottom of the disc..im no expert by far so i only say it "looks" like overspray hoping someone knows what im talking about without trying to get pics of it..are these defective discs? should i call the store or do i have nothing to worry about?
second, ive read alot of ppl suggest burning at 4x which i am currently at, i believe it was doc i read state you burn at 8x? (im not 100% so forgive me if im wrong) if so is that a better speed to burn with DVD-R 8x media or is it basically just trial and error..
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31. January 2006 @ 16:33 |
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First off, I'd call the vendor that I purchased the TY from. Tell them about the "overspray." Their response should give you a good idea of the type of customer service that you can expect. With 4 or 5 reputable online vendors for TY, you don't have to settle for shoddy customer service. Personally, with the amount of TY that I have purchased and burned with absolutely no problems, I'd just pitch those 12 to the wind. I would still contact the vendor to see how they responded, though. It is definitely rare, in my experience, to get bad TY discs, but it IS possible (as you now know).
I, too, burn my 8X TY (both formats) @8X. Do a couple of burns at different speeds and scan with Nero CD/DVDSpeed (if your drive supports it) to see what gives YOU the best results. As you said, "Trial and error" for each individual setup. However, I am willing to bet that 8X will give you superior results...
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31. January 2006 @ 16:49 |
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@thydemise
teflonmyk answered your questions very accurately, it WAS me that burn my 8x rated TYs @8x, in both formats...teflonmyk happens to burn in a very similar fashion/speed as me (if my memory serves me correctly, we BOTH have the pioneer dvr-109 with buffalo firmware to enable bitsetting and get OUR best quality scans burning @8x...this also holds true on the Liteon SOHW-1693S we both have in common too) :)
depending on what drive you are using, it is through "trial and error" that you will find YOUR best results...give 8x burns a try, if you are happy with 4x burning on TYs, then by all means stick with it, but i get better quality scan results @8x PERSONALLY~ :)
as to the "overspray", i would def. contact the vendor you purchased from too...getting a "bad batch" here and there is NOT TOO COMMON for Taiyo Yuden, BUT, with EVERY manufacturer out there, issues DO arise...nobody is "perfect" 100% of the time, that is just not possible...while it's unfortunate that you received a "bad batch" on your 2nd 100-pack of TYs, quite a few places both online and locally WILL accept a return/refund you on defective media...good luck
docTY~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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31. January 2006 @ 17:09 |
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This isn't really a serious question but...
My TY DVD+R 8x T02 were bumpy along the edges. But now my MOJ sonys.
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frankvega
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31. January 2006 @ 17:30 |
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doc i just received my first ty discs from rima.com today . the media id reads correctly (tygo2), but my inner hub reads GGOOO123. this has me wandering if i got some fakes . thanx
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31. January 2006 @ 22:26 |
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they bettern not be fake.. that's where i buy my tys..
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1. February 2006 @ 03:48 |
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@frankvega
those are just fine...check my very 1st post in this thread...your TYG02s match up just fine with what i listed : GG00xxxx or GG000xxx (the xxxx or xxx varies in numerical value, naturally, the xxxx being numerical values to signify the batch number...so, for example, a MORE RECENT batch produced would be ie. GG001234, an older one that you apparently got would be along the lines of GG000123)
no worries, you got GENUINE TYs right there..good luck with your 1st batch~ :0
docTY~
p.s thelox714, you need not worry w/ rima.com, they ALWAYS send genuine Taiyo Yudens... :)
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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1. February 2006 @ 07:53 |
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great..
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1. February 2006 @ 10:10 |
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[/btw, i only got a FEW pieces of Taiyo Yuden's NEWEST 16x dvd+r media, they said my order is in queue on their "pre-release" [backorder list... :(]
[so sad, i'm one of Taiyo Yuden's biggest fans and i'm not near the top of the list, so they only sent me 10 pieces to test out~ :) obviously, with this very LIMITED supply of TY 16x dvd+r, i can't really give anyone any ReAL results :]
Hi Kivory666,
I got about 50 of the Yuden-000-T03-000 sent to me by a friend in Yorkshire England, they are made under the Plextor Brand name. I really don't find anything special about them or anything wrong for that matter, they are just about on par with the 16X+Verbs I have.
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1. February 2006 @ 11:29 |
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Damn, I can't wait to get my hands on them YUDEN000T03.
Doc., do you know when it's going to be out at Best Buy or Circuit City by chance?
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1. February 2006 @ 11:44 |
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The first time you will probably see them is when the Plextor 760 is released, and who knows when that will be. The Plextor 760 is supposed to burn these at 18X and in Europe they have been selling the Yuden000-T03-000 both printables and Laquer finish for months now, they sell them at SVP.com but they will not ship to the USA. I have been in contact with Rima.com, a leading reseller of Taiyo Yuden media and they have no time frame for the release of this media.
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1. February 2006 @ 12:00 |
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thanks for clearing that up for me doc . it's great to have somebody like yourself helping out us noob's .. your help if greatly appreciated
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1. February 2006 @ 13:15 |
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hay DOC :)
fame at last for the TY GUY ;)
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1. February 2006 @ 16:32 |
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@aland
i've known about the Plextor brand name selling the YUDEN000T03s for quite a few months now, seemingly, creaky over in the UK, CAN get his hands on some media that we over here in the U.S. are limited to...
(ie. Verbatim TYs as well as the Plextor 16x dvd+r TYs) :)
that is the problem with various manufacturers of media, Taiyo Yuden included...worldwide, there will be some people that CAN obtain certain media well before their peers in other countries, this is very much the case here with Taiyo Yuden and their U.S. distribution too~ :P
rima.com happens to be a pretty large reseller of Taiyo Yuden, they even have gone as far as NOT carrying Taiyo Yuden's "valueline" of dvd-r because of what SOME people say about them...this is to only protect their reputation as the debate on the "valueline" vs. "premiumline" of Taiyo Yuden has been raging on since the middle of last year~ :)
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I really don't find anything special about them or anything wrong for that matter, they are just about on par with the 16X+Verbs I have.
i was never stating the YUDEN000T03s are "better" than any other 16x dvd+r medias in general. i was simply letting the people in the U.S. know that i got my hands on a few pieces to "test out" :)
supposedly, these Plextor branded YUDEN000T03s have an "extra" protective layer on them, to prevent scratches and such, but since i do not have any Plextor branded media, i can't give you a definitive answer as to whether that is true or not. since you have a 50-pack, perhaps you could tell ME if they do or not?
while i DO know, as with any company that uses Taiyo Yuden as their manufacturer (Fuji/Sony) here in the states, you will see the TOP surface being different than the OEM Taiyo Yudens (silver shinys/silver lacquer). the top "writeable area" is what stands out as being different (companys have their own logos with a few lines you could use a sharpie to write on). also, i know for a fact that the Plextor branded YUDEN000T03s are also GOLD in color (top writeable surface) and they (plextor) DO NOT offer a inkjet printable disc at this time...
it's good that some members are adding some info to this thread, naturally, our "outside of the U.S." members will have access to media that WE in the U.S. will not be available to get to try (unless you have a friend in Europe that sends you media, as in your case aland~ hehe)
@alkohol
don't know when the YUDEN000T03s will be available locally at say bestbuy or staples, i have yet to find a company in the U.S. that Taiyo Yuden has agreed to manufacture the 16x dvd+r for...
@everyone else
keep the good info coming, i'm off to clear up a debate on "valueline" vs "premiumline" TYs now... :)
whew, now THAT was a bit of typing...
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/1/297550#1707071
docTY~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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1. February 2006 @ 16:42 |
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Hey docTY~! Bunnyrip says: Way to go Man! You are definitely right on about Taiyo Yuden Made Media! I have yet to see a coaster & the playback results are even noticably better! They are Truly The "Cadillac" of DVD Media! Best of all, you can buy them for the same price or less than Crap Memosux, Imation, etc. JUNK. Why anyone would buy that stuff is beyond me. Anyway, way to go docTY~!
THE "warehouse" for TY media. LOL :-)
Use The Best Media for The Best Burns! TYs, Verbs,(Made in Taiwan) Sony MIJs (YUDEN000 T02), Sony Made in Taiwan DVD+R 16x, Maxell MIJ, RITEK G05.
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1. February 2006 @ 17:55 |
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@bunnyrip
thanks for the confidence boost buddy, most media related problems disappear once you use the "good stuff" :0
docTY~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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